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BREAKING: Iran develops NEW FASTER NUCLEAR CENTRIFUGES!

 
Salus

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Ahmedinejad is making a speech

[link to www.presstv.ir]
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


He isnt doing himself any favours in this speech, talking really heavily about Isreal and the West being the worlds terrorists and having nuclear arm etc and suppressing science and knowledge. If he once says ' we must eliminate the threat from Israel, I reckon we will see Israel strike by tomorrow.
 Quoting: Salus


Nope, Just as I thought, not one single threatening message throughout the whole speech.

They are not scared of dying, If they wanted to wipe Israel from the map, they would quite openly and freely say so.
Remember, many people are only still alive as it is ilegal to shoot the fuckers.
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Israeli reaction:

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu reacted to the news saying the world must set red lines on the Iranian nuclear program. He also urged world leaders to condemn Tehran for the recent attacks on Israeli embassies abroad.

[link to www.ibtimes.com]
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Iran is playing their "we have lower cost centrifuges that will aid the world". The hope being that Israel will not attack, or if they do attack then Israel will be seen as destroying a gift to the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10838785


It's not 'playing' anything. He is simply telling it like it is? Jesus fucking christ. Can you fuckers not see what your own governments are doing to you, they are very succesfully trying to fool you.
Remember, many people are only still alive as it is ilegal to shoot the fuckers.
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Hold tight boys and girls, we are in for a bumpy ride..
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Does it not need 85% enrichment for a weapon ?
 Quoting: Bovriltard


Shhhh....minor details. You derail the plans for war.


I watched the speech of the President. He said the new findings will be shared with all IAEA member states.

On the side, IAEA is scheduled to come back for a second time this month Feb. 21. Iran has said repeatedly that their nuclear program is for civilian purpose only, and for medicine etc. The Ayatolla called a nuclear weapon un-islamic.

Also the President was funny and joking around saying that some western powers will be screaming again, and he said let them scream a little. He said they can blow up the planet several times with their nuclear weapons they have, so we should congratulate them on that? Anyways, was funny how he referred to their hypocrisy
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So uh...where are the naysayers lately?

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Breaking on BBC
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Is that important?

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Highly enriched uranium (HEU)


A billet of highly enriched uranium metal
Highly enriched uranium (HEU) has a greater than 20% concentration of 235U or 233U. The fissile uranium in nuclear weapons usually contains 85% or more of 235U known as weapon(s)-grade, though for a crude, inefficient weapon 20% is sufficient (called weapon(s)-usable);[2][3] some argue that even less is sufficient[citation needed], but then the critical mass for unmoderated fast neutrons rapidly increases, approaching infinity at 6%235U.[4] For critical experiments, enrichment of uranium to over 97% has been accomplished.[5]

The very first uranium bomb, Little Boy dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, used 64 kilograms of 80% enriched uranium. Wrapping the weapon's fissile core in a neutron reflector (which is standard on all nuclear explosives) can dramatically reduce the critical mass. Because the core was surrounded by a good neutron reflector, at explosion it comprised almost 2.5 critical masses. Neutron reflectors, compressing the fissile core via implosion, fusion boosting, and "tamping", which slows the expansion of the fissioning core with inertia, allow nuclear weapon designs that use less than what would be one bare-sphere critical mass at normal density. The presence of too much of the 238U isotope inhibits the runaway nuclear chain reaction that is responsible for the weapon's power. The critical mass for 85% highly enriched uranium is about 50 kilograms (110 lb), which at normal density would be a sphere about 17 centimetres (6.7 in) in diameter.

Later US nuclear weapons usually use plutonium-239 in the primary stage, but the secondary stage which is compressed by the primary nuclear explosion often uses HEU with enrichment between 40% and 80%[6] along with the fusion fuel lithium deuteride. For the secondary of a large nuclear weapon, the higher critical mass of less-enriched uranium can be an advantage as it allows the core at explosion time to contain a larger amount of fuel. The 238U is not fissile but still fissionable by fusion neutrons.

HEU is also used in fast neutron reactors, whose cores require about 20% or more of fissile material, as well as in naval reactors, where it often contains at least 50% 235U, but typically does not exceed 90%. The Fermi-1 commercial fast reactor prototype used HEU with 26.5% 235U. Significant quantities of HEU are used in the production of medical isotopes, for example molybdenum-99 for technetium-99m generators.[7]

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So we need 80% for a Hiroshima type explosion. Scale it down from there.
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Breaking on BBC
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Is that important?

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10058745


About as important as you!
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Serious Question folks : -

Why, exactly, does Iran need Nuclear Power Stations etc. when they have so much oil?

If I had a company car with free fuel, I wouldn't fill it up and pay for it out of my own pocket!

Surely if they go over the 5% needed for a power station, they have other intentions, such as weapons?

This also means they can just keep them spinning until they reach 90%, the technology is already there, just leave it 'cooking' longer!

Alarm bells are ringing and I'm not the only one wondering what they are 'actually' up to in Iran!

wtf
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Need to bomb the fuckers back into the stone-age right now.

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Oh Shit
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Serious Question folks : -

Why, exactly, does Iran need Nuclear Power Stations etc. when they have so much oil?

If I had a company car with free fuel, I wouldn't fill it up and pay for it out of my own pocket!

Surely if they go over the 5% needed for a power station, they have other intentions, such as weapons?

This also means they can just keep them spinning until they reach 90%, the technology is already there, just leave it 'cooking' longer!

Alarm bells are ringing and I'm not the only one wondering what they are 'actually' up to in Iran!

wtf
 Quoting: minkey53


exactly minkey, with all the oil they have...there is no need for any of this other stuff, unless of course energy is not your intent
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Breaking on BBC
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Is that important?

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10058745


About as important as you!
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Nice evasion and the question remains...

Oooops...
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good for them, be free from oil...


every country has the right to be self sufficient




dont fall for the war propaganda...


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wake up:)


thank you:)


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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be announced on Wednesday the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the development of a new generation of centrifuges more efficient, public television announced. "These include the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the fourth generation of centrifuges, faster, occupying less space and are built with carbon fiber", state television announced. "All these centrifuges were manufactured by Iranian engineers," the same source. Ahmadinejad must speak "around 15.00 local time" (13.30 GMT) on these new developments. Tuesday, the official website of the Government said that "these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".

[link to m.mediafax.ro]
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


"these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".



LOL, LIES!

they do NOT want a nuclear weapon....


nice translation,lol

is GLP a propaganda site for war against Iran?
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Breaking on BBC
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


AND....... so what, other than all nuclear energy needs to be seriously curtailed, as is learned way to late from Fushashima. They are not developing nuclear weapons, but they have that right same as anyone else .
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Breaking on BBC
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Is that important?

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10058745


About as important as you!
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Nice evasion and the question remains...

Oooops...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10058745


Ok I give in , yes it was important that I said it was breaking on BBC, because I couldn't supply a link as it was only a breaking banner on the BBC website, therefore it would have been irresponsible of me not to let the lovely GLP'ers know where I had seen this news..

I hope that has satisfied you curiosity on importance.. ;-)
hf
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who cares..... The US enrich uranium, Russians enrich uranium, Israel had and still have a secret nuclear program.

I congratulate Iran on developing ways to fuel their countries energy needs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1569968


Oh, yeah! Bet that's what they are up to.

Oh, wait---this is higher than is needed for energy needs.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Why do I get the feeling most Americans are pulling for Iran and hate Israel.

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be announced on Wednesday the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the development of a new generation of centrifuges more efficient, public television announced. "These include the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the fourth generation of centrifuges, faster, occupying less space and are built with carbon fiber", state television announced. "All these centrifuges were manufactured by Iranian engineers," the same source. Ahmadinejad must speak "around 15.00 local time" (13.30 GMT) on these new developments. Tuesday, the official website of the Government said that "these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".

[link to m.mediafax.ro]
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


"these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".



LOL, LIES!

they do NOT want a nuclear weapon....


nice translation,lol

is GLP a propaganda site for war against Iran?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8528060


Yes it is. I just had a major rant about this on another thread.

For one nuclear weapon is bollocks. it actually translates to "nuclear energy for all, nuclear weapons for no-one"
Remember, many people are only still alive as it is ilegal to shoot the fuckers.
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IRANIAN PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD LOADS TEHRAN REACTOR WITH DOMESTICALLY MADE NUCLEAR FUEL RODS - STATE NEWS AGENCY
[link to twitter.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Domestically made? Is that like their domestic flying boats?

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Hold tight boys and girls, we are in for a bumpy ride..
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Does it not need 85% enrichment for a weapon ?
 Quoting: Bovriltard


Correct, but it is very easy to make 85% if you already can make 20%.

Same process, just more time. But if they are faster, then it doesn't matter.

By Iran saying they have enriched uranium to 20%, they are also saying they can make bomb level refinements easily. (and probably already has...)
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Well it looks like the world has waited too long to address the issues with Iran and it's nuclear program. I had previously thought that going from 20-85% was the difficult part but apparently it's not. Once 20% is realized then uranium is already considered to be highly enriched. Check out the following read and excerpt:

Meanwhile, enriching uranium under the guise of medical needs will get Tehran much closer to possessing weapons-grade material. Iran insists it has no interest in nuclear weapons. But Albright said 70 percent of the work toward reaching weapons-grade uranium took place when Iran enriched uranium gas to 3.5 percent. Enriching it further to the 19.75 percent needed for the reactor is an additional “15 to 20 percent of the way there.”

Once the uranium is enriched above 20 percent, it is considered highly enriched uranium. The uranium would need to be enriched further, to 60 percent and then to 90 percent, before it could be used for a weapon. “The last two steps are not that big a deal,” Albright said. They could be accomplished, he said, at a relatively small facility within months.

[link to lewis.armscontrolwonk.com]


I guess now we will find out in about 6 months what their ambitions really are and how the rest of the region will react.

mahmoud
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be announced on Wednesday the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the development of a new generation of centrifuges more efficient, public television announced. "These include the production of fuel rods with uranium enriched to 20 percent and the fourth generation of centrifuges, faster, occupying less space and are built with carbon fiber", state television announced. "All these centrifuges were manufactured by Iranian engineers," the same source. Ahmadinejad must speak "around 15.00 local time" (13.30 GMT) on these new developments. Tuesday, the official website of the Government said that "these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".

[link to m.mediafax.ro]
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


"these projects show that Iranian scientists, who have the slogan" nuclear energy for all, for one nuclear weapon, "reached the limits (progress) current science".



LOL, LIES!

they do NOT want a nuclear weapon....


nice translation,lol

is GLP a propaganda site for war against Iran?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8528060


Yes it is. I just had a major rant about this on another thread.

For one nuclear weapon is bollocks. it actually translates to "nuclear energy for all, nuclear weapons for no-one"
 Quoting: Salus


If IRAN is building a nuclear weapon, they will not allow any data of it or about it past the building it is done in.

They are refining nuclear grade, the only problem is knowing where. And that is why Israel has waited for so long. They know Iran has secret installations that needed destroyed for their attack plan to work.


But, eventually, when Iran get soo far in process, Israel knows they must attack regardless.

This is that event, the point of no return. And IRAN may be true to their saying and really aren't building a bomb. But Israel doesn't believe it and that is part of the problem.

Even though, Iran has stated Israel needs to disarm nuclear weapons or else face a nuclearized middle east. Iran has boldly claimed it will make nuclear weapons IF Israel doesn't disarm.

THAT is the REAL debate.
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Hold tight boys and girls, we are in for a bumpy ride..
 Quoting: Sir Griffo


Does it not need 85% enrichment for a weapon ?
 Quoting: Bovriltard


Correct, but it is very easy to make 85% if you already can make 20%.

Same process, just more time. But if they are faster, then it doesn't matter.

By Iran saying they have enriched uranium to 20%, they are also saying they can make bomb level refinements easily. (and probably already has...)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405546


They also said it 6 years ago almost, No israel attack back then why would there be one now ?

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CENTRIFUGES lol!

They have better techniques this is stone age type.
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Seems to me going from 20 to 90 percent is hard and israel is freaking out their at 20, it just seems they dont want them to have working nuclear reactors since if they do it might improve the living conditions of people in iran, lower energy cost, lower food cost, it might even offset the sanctions imposed on them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9555339


It's a fact that they will have a bomb at this rate.

Is there a fact that says what they'll do with that bomb?

Let's be realistic here.
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Destroy them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9203729


Even if /when Iran was to acquire nuclear weapon capability, do you really think these peoples are stupid enough to 'first strike' with them?

Hmm, no. Will they use them to defend themselves if attacked with said weapons, yes I think they will, hence they have a right to have them, and use them in a retaliatory action and defence of their sovereign state, regardless of what you think of them.

You're naive or just plain stupid.
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this is ridiculous. this "centrifuge" business is all
some kind of red herring --
Iran can buy all the weapons grade uranium they want
from Pakistan.
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Why dont we send Spock and captain kirk to persuade them to change course and live in peace it always worked on star
trek.
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