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Private prison corporation offers cash in exchange for state prisons!

 
theSearchingJones

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02/15/2012 08:35 PM
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A government cannot run a prison. Look at it this way, if you get raped tomorrow, call the police, and the person who raped you gets locked up for 20 years, guess who is paying for all of that? You are. Yes, you are paying for your attacker to get treatment, food, use of a gym, and the ability to sit in front of a T.V. all day and do nothing if he chooses. You might also be paying for him to attend school. Does that sound good to you? That for 20 years your attacker lives a relatively easy lifestyle while you have PTSD from being raped?
People convicted of a crime should have to pay their own way. Not just rot in prison while others pay for them to do so. They should pay for everything plus reparations to the victim. Otherwise a prison is a useless drain on societies money.
 Quoting: CrazyLibertarian


^^^^ (in Bold) that being said, how can a prison be profitable?
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02/15/2012 08:40 PM
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Maybe I'll buy a prison...always wanted slaves...
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O ya' this job while in a Chinese lock-up takes the prize.

"China used prisoners in lucrative internet gaming work"
[link to www.guardian.co.uk]

Liu says he was one of scores of prisoners forced to play online games to build up credits that prison guards would then trade for real money. The 54-year-old, a former prison guard who was jailed for three years in 2004 for "illegally petitioning" the central government about corruption in his hometown, reckons the operation was even more lucrative than the physical labour that prisoners were also forced to do.
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02/15/2012 08:45 PM
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Here is an even scarier situation..

[link to www.npr.org]

Critics have long questioned the quality of private prisons and the promises of economic benefits where they are built. But proponents say private prisons not only save taxpayers money, but they also generate income for the surrounding community.

In 2004, officials in Hardin, Mont., agreed to a deal for a private prison to be built in town. The idea was that the county would pay for the prison and the state or federal government would fill it. Hardin would get tax revenues, new jobs and economic benefits while a private prison company would run the place and get a cut of the profits.

The Two Rivers Regional Detention Facility, a 464-bed $27 million private prison, was completed in 2007. Since then, the facility has remained empty and unused because the builder never landed a contract with the state or federal government for inmates.

In 2009, the facility made national news when, in an attempt to recoup the money it had spent on the facility, the town offered to do something almost no other town in America was willing to do — house prisoners from Guantanamo Bay.


The presence of a prison might actually squeeze out other businesses that could bring greater benefits than the prison itself, he says. Also, many of the jobs created by a private prison don't actually go to people in the community.

The bigger problem, he says, is that state and federal taxpayers — who in the end are paying for these prisons — aren't getting the most value for their money.

To cite just one example, he says, last year the Arizona auditor general found that it actually might be more expensive to hold Arizona prisoners in private, for-profit facilities than in public ones.
aBiNoRmAl

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02/15/2012 08:51 PM
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And this and then I will stop..but, wow..

[link to public.findlaw.com]

It was also theorized that privately run prisons would be held more accountable, because they could be fined or fired, unlike traditional prisons (although the counter point is that PRIVATELY RUN PRISONS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL CONSTRAINTS THAT STATE RUN PRISONS ARE).

Major Players in the Private Jail Business

Private prisons are BIG BUSINESS, with annual budgets in the billions, and there are several large players in the private prison business such as Corrections Corporation of America, the GEO Group (formerly known as Wackenhut Securities), and Cornell Companies. Corrections Corporation of America alone owns more than 65 correctional facilities in the U.S. and houses over 100,000 inmates.

One of the most perverse incentives in a privately run prison system is that THE MORE PRISONERS A COMPANY HOUSES, THE MORE IT GETS PAID. This leads to a CONFLICT OF INTEREST on the part of privately run prisons where they, in theory, are incentivized to NOT REHABILITATE prisoners. If private prisons worked to reduce the number of repeat offenders, they would be in effect reducing the supply of profit-producing inmates.

While some studies have demonstrated that private prisons may save governments money, other studies have found just the opposite. A study by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics found no such cost-savings when it compared public and private prisons. This is in part because simple numbers don't tell the whole story. For instance, privately run prisons CAN REFUSE TO ACCEPT CERTAIN EXPENSIVE PRISONERS, and they regularly do. This has the effect of artificially deflating the costs associated with running a private jail.
SO just more big business/failure and the taxpayers pay for it..BAD idea, this!! My money says it will happen, tho..

Last Edited by aBiNoRmAl on 02/15/2012 08:56 PM
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02/15/2012 08:54 PM
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A government cannot run a prison. Look at it this way, if you get raped tomorrow, call the police, and the person who raped you gets locked up for 20 years, guess who is paying for all of that? You are. Yes, you are paying for your attacker to get treatment, food, use of a gym, and the ability to sit in front of a T.V. all day and do nothing if he chooses. You might also be paying for him to attend school. Does that sound good to you? That for 20 years your attacker lives a relatively easy lifestyle while you have PTSD from being raped?
People convicted of a crime should have to pay their own way. Not just rot in prison while others pay for them to do so. They should pay for everything plus reparations to the victim. Otherwise a prison is a useless drain on societies money.
 Quoting: CrazyLibertarian




They do have to pay for court cost sometimes restitution and even when they get out they pay a monthly fee to help cover the cost of prole. I'm not defending it the system is completely broken, but this just shows how much of a racket it really is. If you so much as get a DUI expect to spend up to 10,000 just in court fees, drug abuse treatment, drug testing and anything else they can think of to pull. If you get to wear a bracelet at home you pay rental for that too plus you have to have a land line. I just watched a young man go through this and granted he was wrong I am not defending him at all but I swear it is like they knew how much money he had. They took his entire savings as soon as that was gone they released him.
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02/15/2012 10:11 PM

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Ohio had five prisons up for sale last time I checked.





Article: COLUMBUS, Ohio - A private corrections company with ties to both the governor's office and the corrections department will get no special treatment as Ohio moves to privatize a chunk of its prison system, the corrections department director said Monday.

Gary Mohr, director of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction, has pledged to remove himself from Gov. John Kasich's recent proposal to sell five Ohio prisons to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.




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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10852874


What a perfect video choice for this thread :)

In the words of Serj

"Following the rights movement, you clamped on with your iron fist's,
Drugs become conveniently available for all the kids

I buy my crack, I smack my bitch right here in hollywod

Nearly 2 million (make it 3 now) Americans are incarcerated in the prison system of the US

They're trying to build a prison!
They're trying to build a prison for you and me to live in!

Another prison system...

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons, you don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich

Drug money is used to rig elections and train brutal corporate sponsored dictators around the world


They're trying to build a prison!
They're trying to build a prison for you and me to live in!

Another prison system...

Utilizing drugs to pay for,
secret wars around the world,
drugs are now your global policy,
now you police the globe


They're trying to build a prison for you and me, oh baby you and me :)

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