Before Armageddon!! Time is running out!

we hope none of those things happen.

According to the mainstream Left Behind doctrine, Armageddon happens AFTER the 1000 years when Satan is bound, then released.

This is a MAJOR fallacy as Revelation 16:12-18 states that Armageddon happens at the 6th bowl judgement. We know in Revelation 20 that after Satan is released from the Abyss (Revelation 9) that he catalyzes the Gog/Magog war.

The Gog/Magog war = Armageddon. It's the same war. Therefore the 1000 years ENDS BEFORE the 6th bowl judgement!

This puts a kink in the whole prophetic timeline and changes everything! The New World Order deception will be all about this new golden age coming (millenium?) and it will deceive many.

The 2 Witnesses are NOT Moses and Elijah, or Enoch, or John. The ministry of the 2 witnesses started almost 2 thousand years ago.

Was Satan released from the abyss on or around 9/11? Was the twin tower destruction a ritual to open the abyss? Did the prophetic time of God's wrath start at 9/11?

These are things I discuss on the podcast. I'm eager to share it with people here to get some feedback. I think all these topics fit together like a puzzle and it's going to be VERY important that we are not deceived by Satan as to the TIMELINE.

The "elect" are sealed, but what about those who are on the fence? We need to warn people what's coming so they know and when the time is right, they will realize and call on God's name and He WILL answer them.

- Amos

I know. Me too. If 9/11 was the 5th trumpet and Satan was released from the Abyss to gather the nations for war, then what comes next?

The 6th trumpet and bowl. They BOTH are all about the area around the Euphrates river. They BOTH talk about Armageddon and War.

I believe we are waiting on the 6th trumpet. I'm not dogmatic about it but it's something I really feel in my spirit.

This build up with Iran and the middle east... well, it's looking like it could turn into the 6th trumpet/bowl judgement. :(

That's the bad news. The GOOD news is that this life is only the coat room to the main event... God's Kingdom.

Satan may try to pull a counterfeit first, tho, so that's why I did this podcast... to warn others. I don't think some people understand just HOW important it is to understand the timeline. 2 Thessalonians 2 tells us that the coming of the "lawless one" will be in accordance (agreement) with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of:

-Counterfeit Miracles
-COUNTERFEIT SIGNS
-COUNTERFEIT WONDERS

The Illuminati may just be trying to pull off some counterfeit signs along with the false Left Behind timeline and it may just be part of the whole plan to deceive the world.

The plot thickens....

where is armageddon going to happen?
someone told me the Armageddon site of combat will be in the Nevada desert
and who are the protagonists?

According to scripture, it's said to take place here:

[link to maps.google.com.au]

I don't know, though. Is the valley of Meggido a literal place where it will happen or is scripture using that as some type of metaphor for the battle. I'm not sure.

As far as who starts it, the only info we are given is that demons drive the "kings of the earth" to gather for war. See Revelation 16:12-18.

I think that America (the Babylon) will be taken out during this war and be brought to ruin. Revelation 18.

every generation has to start learning all over again.

Left Behind "doctrine" is for complete lemmings.

gmafb

middle-eastern monotheistic death cult BUUUUUULLLLSHIT

Yeah, I feel ya... but there are a TON of "lemmings" out there! The Left Behind book series has spawned into video games, children's books and is now a colossal cash cow.

It kinda makes one wonder.... why would Satan allow this to flourish in "his" market of the beast? I mean, other stuff is fought tooth and nail.

Oh yeah, it's because this stuff just sets millions up for the deception that is coming..... it plays right into his plan.



Sometimes I wonder if Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins are Illuminati. I was made to read Tim LaHaye's "The Act of Marriage" when I was teenager. That book was freakin' crazy! There was some deep sexual stuff in that book cloaked in Christian lingo.

I wonder how many people on GLP would confess to having read the "Left Behind" series. I read up the book Nicolai: The Rise of AntiChrist.

Here's a link about the book series if you don't know what it is. Don't take it seriously, tho. It's filled with prophetical fantasy that's loosely based on scripture and contains serious errors in prophecy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Maybe the elites are using this book series as a guide book to deceive people into thinking the New World Order is actually the millennium?



Last Edited by Saint Pablo on 02/16/2012 06:31 AM

hi Amos
saw your site, you re very sincere; thank you

just sharing what i learned okay?

lets take the 'start of the 1000 year ' as mainpoint.
Who is ruling, just before that point ? - lucifer and this matrix, included all the delusional souls he seduced.

What will happen, when the Lord will come down to claim rightfully what is His'..? - lucifer will be so deluded that in a last attempt, he will fight Him.
This is 'armageddon' ( Ez 38)

..but we arent there yet.
we still have the choas ahead - in weeks? - what pike described: a choas to creáte lucifers total dominion in this matrix.

sadly - it is the látter, what is being (falsely) promoted as 'armageddon', to get people to accept the false christ, who appears right after this.

..7 years INTO the 1000 years, will still continue the cleansing of the armageddon war (= lucifer and his deluded souls against christs coming)

And than there is still the 'release of satan, áfter the 1000 years' .. i guess that tells something about the cyclic eras of earths history

added -

..but you know what is causing me deep heartache -
that, any moment now, the matrix will close
And people will be ruled by energies, which they dont control, but who control thém instead;

and yet lucifer and his henchmen downhere work óvertime , to deflect attention to this fact:
ALL the drums of war, since 48, are a set up, to keep peoples (read: christians) attention to a false worldly cause (the M-east) , so that they give their energy (power/belief) to a cause, which is not His '

..either we escape, before the matrix closes: or no-one will

Thanks for the kind words, Lone. :-)

How can the 1000 year reign of Christ (and Satan being locked in the abyss) be after armageddon?

Revelation 16:12-16
12 The ((((((sixth angel poured out his bowl))))) on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, (((((to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty)))).
15 “Behold, I come like a thief! Blessed is he who stays awake and keeps his clothes with him, so that he may not go naked and be shamefully exposed.”
16 Then ((((they gathered the kings)))) together to the place that in Hebrew is called ((((Armageddon)))).

Armageddon happens at the 6th bowl.

Revelation 20:7-8
7 When the thousand years ((((are over)))), Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—(((((Gog and Magog))))—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

Armageddon and Gog and Magog are the same war. Ezekiel 38-39.

If Christ ruled on earth literally for 1000 years, how would Satan come out of the abyss at the end and make war with him?

Is Jesus going to take all the tanks, guns, ammo and weapons and store them away in warehouses for a thousand years so they are there for Satan to use against him?

Will the people who have known and seen Christ ruling and know that He is God now suddenly be hypnotized by Satan after 1000 years and march with him to the warehouses to get in the tanks and stuff and attack God's people?

Where will the training come from? Does Christ allow war training to go on during the 1000 years?

I'm honestly not making light of this, Lone... I'm using these questions to honestly shine a light on how ridiculous it is to think that the 1000 years are a literal reign of Christ on earth after the 7th trumpet as the Left Behind series teaches. It just ain't gonna happen.

Satan was bound for 1000 years so the Gospel could go out to all the world. Acts 1:8-10.

I deal with all of these issues in the podcast. I don't mind typing it out but I already laid it down on the mp3.

But please, let's hash it out. I don't mind. I love the conversation. It's getting a bit late over here in Oz, but I will be checking back tomorrow. I actually come from the States. Lived there 39 years. I just moved to Australia because I met a beautiful Aussie girl that was worth moving 9000 miles to marry. :-)

Let's keep the discussion going though. I really feel many people need to understand this!

The word "matrix" actually means "the womb". Not sure many people know that.

Jesus said, "you must be born again". It's true, but some will be born again into God's Kingdom and some will be lost.

The movie, The Matrix, has done quite a bit of damage to many people's view of reality. There is some truth there but it's mixed with lies that come from many schools of thought. It's truth mixed with lies, which really isn't truth at all.

The Matrix was a forerunner and was so widely publicized because it set people up for the conspiracies to come out into the open. It created the framework for the deception. People have to be "trained" to understand these concepts and Hollywood is just the vehicle to do so.

Does anyone understand the significance of all this?

With all that's leading up to this war with Iran which will basically get all the big players into the battle.... this is all about current events!

We are more than likely waiting on the 6th trumpet/bowl events to occur!

The 7th trump is the end folks. That's judgement day.

As is mentioned in Revelation 10:7, we are "in the days when the 7th angel is about to sound his trumpet".

7th trumpet=game over

Please 5 star this and suggest a pin. It's time we bring the GLP community into this conversation to confront the truth of scripture. Time is running out.....

i will see what I can do with pin...

Thanks! +1 Karma 4 u!

I'm 'bout ready to get offline as it's midnight in Oz right now, but I'm looking forward to seeing comments in the morning. I promise to answer any legitimate post or question! No question is stupid.

As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. That my friends is good wisdom!

We have not seen the 3rd Seal yet.....but it might be soon.


3rd Seal.....a day's wages for a loaf of bread on a worldwide basis......including such places as the USA. A collapse of the worldwide fiat currency system could bring this about.

4th Seal......appears to indicate 25% of the world's population will perish.

5th Seal......the man of evil and false prophet will set up the abomination of desolation in Jerusalem. They will first attempt to wipe out all the jewish people. God will preserve a remnant in the wilderness. They will then go after the "offspring".......the Gentile believers in Christ. This terrible persecution is also known as the time of Jacob's trouble and can be found in Daniel Chp 12. It will go on for approx. two years after the mid-point of Daniel's 70th week.


6th Seal.....the whole world goes dark for an unspecified amount of time. The great ones of the earth hide in fear in caves and proclaim the God's wrath is about to begin.


The 144,000 of Israel are then sealed from harm. They will remain on earth. The Gentile believers are caught up by angels......just prior to God's wrath.


7th Seal.....God's wrath......the trumpet and bowl judgements. This goes on approx. one to two years......the final section of Daniel's 70 week.


Then Christ returns with His heavenly army and destroys those arrayed against Him with a Word from His mouth (Rev. 19)


Christ reigns as King of the World for 1,000 years and David as prince over his people Israel. (Ezek Chps 34---39 and Zechariah Chp 14). The time of punishment for Israel ends.....and God puts His Spirit inside of them.....at the end of the 70th week......just prior to the 1,000 years. The Saints serve as judges, priests, etc. There continue some in the world still in opposition to Christ.

Satan is released from the pit for a short time at the end of the 1,000 years and there is a short, final battle.


Then God burns up the world and creates a new one. The city.....heavenly Jerusalem descends to earth. It is approx. the size of one half of the current USA.

No one is actually reading and thinking about what I've posted are they? Has anyone who's posted listened to the podcast? I lay it out plain for the mind to understand.

If you are dogmatic you won't "hear" what I'm trying to put forth.

We are in the days when the 7th trumpet is about to sound.

6th seal,trump and bowl are about to happen!!

Sorry..... Wasn't logged in on that last post.

I don't know, though. Is the valley of Meggido a literal place where it will happen or is scripture using that as some type of metaphor for the battle. I'm not sure.
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Will be back to read all of your information here. You seem to be spot on from what info I have glanced through so far.

Just a quick note on Har Megiddo - My thoughts are that it is symbolic. As most of Revelation is - a symbol put for a very real event. I am not presenting my thoughts as "thus sayeth the Lord here)


More battles have been fought (think bloodshed) at this literal location than anywhere else on earth, according to historians

The end time events will be a worldwide conflict, as in, a gathering of troops:

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,.... Psalm 2:2


The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever."
Rev. 11:15

This is the battle, who will rule. Christians know their King is the only rightful ruler of all of creation. Satan and his minions have fought to keep Him off the throne of earth and out of the hearts of mankind.

It is more a spiritual battle as it concerns the spiritual body of Christ. However, the rulers of the world will use real weapons of warfare to bring in their fake "apocalypse" to cause everyone to think the end has come - then when placing their "man of peace" upon the world throne, many will believe Him to be the savior of the world, by whichever name they choose to call him, yet he will be called the ruler of the Christian Church - call it ecumenical as in a "one world religion"

This is why they have programmed people to believe the Word of God in a "new way" so that people will say, "see, here it is, just like the Bible (rewritten) says", when all that is really being fulfilled is their fake interpretation to cause people to believe it is of God


So yes, the deceivers, will probably use this Megiddo to cause all to think this is it, forgetting the man of sin must rule for "one hour" first (most will worship him as the savior) - as the usurper - the LAST usurper over the worldwide (Babylon) that is joined together by UN agreement.


Jesus warns us to not be deceived.


But you, O LORD, shall laugh at them; you shall have all the nations in derision - Psalm 59:8

A very real battle, and the LORD will confuse their plans and bring in His Kingdom - this battle has been waged since the garden of Eden and will have an end as promised

Hey Amos! I listened to you on a radio show a long time ago but lost that link. Thank you for posting. I will be happy to hear what you have to say. I have always believed that things would not happen like we were told it would happen. It is complicated after all.

I feel this is SO crucial and that's why I posted it at GLP as many here are searching for truth. That truth IS Jesus Christ no matter how many people throw "bibletard" stones at us.

I'd love to hear more of your thoughts as well, Wow. It's good to know there are those out there that aren't hypnotized by the Left Behind mainstream doctrines about the rapture and the millennium!

It all ties in together. Here are a couple of links to a podcast I did about 9/11 in the bible. I'm not totally dogmatic about this, just something I feel the Lord may have revealed to me. I had been studying 9/11 in the Bible for about 4 years and the Lord gave me something on my BIRTHDAY in 2007 that kind of made it all tie together even more. I was so excited to post these two podcasts!

9/11 in the Bible Part 1
[link to www.truthstreamoasis.com]

9/11 in the Bible Part 2
[link to www.truthstreamoasis.com]

I believe we are in the lead-up to the 6th seal/trump/bowl. We are "in the days" when the 7th angel is about to sound His trumpet. That's the last trump and it is the end.

First there is a "short time" where Satan has his counterfeit reign. This is the "hour of temptation that comes to test all those who dwell upon the earth" (Jesus spoke this in Revelation 3 to the church of Philadelphia).

I'm not sure how this will all exactly play out. I don't think anyone knows and has it all perfect. I think somehow this whole Illuminati thing with the name of Lucifer relating to Jesus will play into the deception. I'm not sure just how but I feel it has something to do with it.

The truth is this:

Deconstructing Lucifer: An Interview with Author David W. Lowe
[link to www.truthstreamoasis.com]

I'd love to hear more thoughts on this thread as this is SO important and I believe as time goes on, people will see how it's playing out and (if we get the truth out) will see that the Bible is accurate and that we have been telling them all along key things that would take place.

There may be some late additions to the faith at that time. Let's hope!

I just wish there was some way to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Gog/Magog war is the same war as Armageddon. I'm convinced of it but can't really find the smoking gun to end the argument.

I really don't think Jesus will come to earth and reign for a thousand years, keep all the military hardware, and then release it to Satan at the end for some great war. It doesn't make sense.

Christ's 1000 year rule is from heaven and John said in Revelation 1 that Christ HAS MADE (past tense) us Kings and Priests.

The 1000 year rule isn't a literal 1000 years. God says He owns the cattle on a THOUSAND hills. Does that mean only 1000 and that He doesn't own the others on hills that aren't within that specific 1000 hills???

Selah. Meditate on this!

-Amos

Hey LionHound, good to meet up with you here! Well, now ya have the link again and can listen in to many podcasts I've done on the NWO and prophecy (with some bible teaching as well). :-)

This is why it won't go down like people have interpreted it.

The Trustworthy Prophetic Word
(Matt. 17:5; Mark 9:7; Luke 9:35 )
16 For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. 17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” 18 And we heard this voice which came from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain.
19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; ((((((((20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,))))) 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

The Bible interprets ITSELF.

Here is another reason....

Wisdom From the Spirit
6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:

“No eye has seen,
no ear has heard,
no mind has conceived
what God has prepared for those who love him” —

10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, (((((expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.))))) 15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:

16 “For who has known the mind of the Lord
that he may instruct him?”

But we have the mind of Christ.

The man without the Spirit of God indwelling him CANNOT understand the scriptures as they are SPIRITUALLY discerned. The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth. This IS THE SEAL OF GOD on the FOREHEADS (the mind) of the 144,000 (all true believers).

How do we know the HOLY SPIRIT IS THAT SEAL?

Let the Bible interpret itself.... :-)

Eph 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were (((((marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,))))

Isn't that AWESOME!!!??? If you study, and move around the scriptures, YOU WILL FIND THE HIDDEN ANSWERS!! They are scattered around like buried treasure in the scripture but these truths are only given to those who STUDY and let the Holy Spirit put the pieces together.

Very AWESOME indeed!!!!

So don't be surprised when people do not understand or if it goes down much differently than the mainstream seminaries and teachers are teaching. They like to express things that make them seem wise, but only the Bible can decode itself.

It's so simple a child can understand, if he studies!

Now we return to our regularly scheduled thread.

Any comments? Jump right in!

-Amos

Sheesh, it's so hard to keep this thread in view on the front page!

It's a shame when a thread like "Alcohol vs. Weed" gets way more attention.



I think this thread is mad interesting and could be a really awesome thread for some really important discussion about end time events.

Who's with me??

-Amos

There are way too many bibletards here. Who wrote the bible, God?

The Iran war is about keeping a new Persian empire from rising...not any kind of bible prophecy.

I wonder if A. Pike already burning in hell.

I wish he does burn there while being tortured by by the nihilists.