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What do Atheists and non-believers want GOD to do, so they will believe?

 
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Yea

But it's kinda funny when they get all worked up and call themselves 'incestual perverts'...



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You find that funny???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281




Lighten up.


It's funny:)





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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


What's funny...incest or mockery/scorning?

Surely you live by your beliefs and if you find pleasure in Schadenfreude then it's quite apparent where you stand.
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See, all of a sudden you are horribly offended by a small joke.

seriously lighten up
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To me, people lose all credibility in a debate when they speak this way.

That type of language directed at someone shows a lack of intelligence. Especially when the insults are directed at someone who has not spoken that way to anyone.

Just my perspective.
 Quoting: Evan03



Yea

But it's kinda funny when they get all worked up and call themselves 'incestual perverts'...




:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


You find that funny??? You are sick! I bet you watch horrific things on the news and laugh in the saftey of your own self righteousness.
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One thing I don't understand about non believers is they generally don't get offended easily and can take jokes, and make plenty about believers...

Then for some reason are offended suddenly by everything a christian says. Earlier someone was offended because of a post that compared human actions to that of animals... I mean really, after everything I see atheists say about believers, they all seem to get thin skin when a christian speaks.
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I'm sorry, have you read my posts?? Where did I say i did not believe in God and Jesus?? Are you the pharisee that judges the hearts of men with your rebuttle, painting all with one brush because they did not believe in your religious instition?

I remember Jesus calling them hypocrites.
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Yea

But it's kinda funny when they get all worked up and call themselves 'incestual perverts'...



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


You find that funny???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281




Lighten up.


It's funny:)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


What's funny...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281





At this point.... you.





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You find that funny???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281




Lighten up.


It's funny:)





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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


What's funny...incest or mockery/scorning?

Surely you live by your beliefs and if you find pleasure in Schadenfreude then it's quite apparent where you stand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


See, all of a sudden you are horribly offended by a small joke.

seriously lighten up
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Sorry if you cannot walk the walk then don't talk the talk.
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You find that funny???
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Lighten up.


It's funny:)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


What's funny...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281





At this point.... you.





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Please explain?
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Lighten up.


It's funny:)





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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


What's funny...incest or mockery/scorning?

Surely you live by your beliefs and if you find pleasure in Schadenfreude then it's quite apparent where you stand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


See, all of a sudden you are horribly offended by a small joke.

seriously lighten up
 Quoting: Evan03


Sorry if you cannot walk the walk then don't talk the talk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


lol, ok
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Yea

But it's kinda funny when they get all worked up and call themselves 'incestual perverts'...




:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


You find that funny??? You are sick! I bet you watch horrific things on the news and laugh in the saftey of your own self righteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


One thing I don't understand about non believers is they generally don't get offended easily and can take jokes, and make plenty about believers...

Then for some reason are offended suddenly by everything a christian says. Earlier someone was offended because of a post that compared human actions to that of animals... I mean really, after everything I see atheists say about believers, they all seem to get thin skin when a christian speaks.
 Quoting: Evan03


I'm sorry, have you read my posts?? Where did I say i did not believe in God and Jesus?? Are you the pharisee that judges the hearts of men with your rebuttle, painting all with one brush because they did not believe in your religious instition?

I remember Jesus calling them hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


Actually the example I was talking about was someone that was posting earlier.....

again, a little sense of humor won't hurt
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat

Sarcasm is the body's natural defense against stupid.
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Why is it that you think everyone needs to believe in God? All religions and spirituality bases are so similar, yet "Christians" see anything other than what they believe in as untrue or satanic. Stop wasting your time trying to change others and preaching that they need to change. Being accepting and not judging of others is what you are taught. So why do you insist on not following your own beliefs?
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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




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read this book
[link to www.insellbooks.com]

it's name "son of lucifer"

"This book continues the publication of my novel" The Son of Lucifer. "Lucifer speaks with his son and specific examples shows him all human vices. Putting ordinary people in unusual situations, tempting them! And these temptations, they usually can not stand ... The novel consists of individual stories of days. Every day is a new character, new story, a new human destiny. Total written me now about 150 days. Most of them never before published. Fourteen short stories were published in the book "Temptation" but the violation of chronology, no dialogue with the Son of Lucifer, and with some editorial changes to the same (though in the book and pointed out in author's edition " but this is not true). In this same edition of any revisions, and acronyms will not. All will be published in full and exactly like me and have been written. Moreover, especially for this edition of the texts of some days-stories I've even expanded and refined. In general, read and enjoy! I am sure you will like it! "Sergei Mavrodi
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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




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Why not? I am genuinley sorry that you find incest and mockery funny....it goes against everything I beleive...but you find it funny. Incest is wrong, mockery is another form of bullying...you find that funny, which is pretty disgusting, but if it makes you feel good to laugh at that and me too, well that just shows you for who you really are.
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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




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Why not? I am genuinley sorry that you find incest and mockery funny....it goes against everything I beleive...but you find it funny. Incest is wrong, mockery is another form of bullying...you find that funny, which is pretty disgusting, but if it makes you feel good to laugh at that and me too, well that just shows you for who you really are.
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To be clear. I was never laughing at you, I doubt Daniel was either
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You find that funny??? You are sick! I bet you watch horrific things on the news and laugh in the saftey of your own self righteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


One thing I don't understand about non believers is they generally don't get offended easily and can take jokes, and make plenty about believers...

Then for some reason are offended suddenly by everything a christian says. Earlier someone was offended because of a post that compared human actions to that of animals... I mean really, after everything I see atheists say about believers, they all seem to get thin skin when a christian speaks.
 Quoting: Evan03


I'm sorry, have you read my posts?? Where did I say i did not believe in God and Jesus?? Are you the pharisee that judges the hearts of men with your rebuttle, painting all with one brush because they did not believe in your religious instition?

I remember Jesus calling them hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


Actually the example I was talking about was someone that was posting earlier.....

again, a little sense of humor won't hurt
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Yes it's hilarious, incest and mocking others has got to be the best laugh I've had all year....perhaps you can text that to your friends for a great laugh.
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One thing I don't understand about non believers is they generally don't get offended easily and can take jokes, and make plenty about believers...

Then for some reason are offended suddenly by everything a christian says. Earlier someone was offended because of a post that compared human actions to that of animals... I mean really, after everything I see atheists say about believers, they all seem to get thin skin when a christian speaks.
 Quoting: Evan03


I'm sorry, have you read my posts?? Where did I say i did not believe in God and Jesus?? Are you the pharisee that judges the hearts of men with your rebuttle, painting all with one brush because they did not believe in your religious instition?

I remember Jesus calling them hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


Actually the example I was talking about was someone that was posting earlier.....

again, a little sense of humor won't hurt
 Quoting: Evan03


Yes it's hilarious, incest and mocking others has got to be the best laugh I've had all year....perhaps you can text that to your friends for a great laugh.
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I don't have a cell phone....:(
Life is tough, but its tougher when you're stupid. -john wayne

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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Why not? I am genuinley sorry that you find incest and mockery funny....it goes against everything I beleive...but you find it funny. Incest is wrong, mockery is another form of bullying...you find that funny, which is pretty disgusting, but if it makes you feel good to laugh at that and me too, well that just shows you for who you really are.
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To be clear. I was never laughing at you, I doubt Daniel was either
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I said 'what's funny??'

Daniel said :

'At this point....you'

Maybe you didn't see this.
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I'm sorry, have you read my posts?? Where did I say i did not believe in God and Jesus?? Are you the pharisee that judges the hearts of men with your rebuttle, painting all with one brush because they did not believe in your religious instition?

I remember Jesus calling them hypocrites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281


Actually the example I was talking about was someone that was posting earlier.....

again, a little sense of humor won't hurt
 Quoting: Evan03


Yes it's hilarious, incest and mocking others has got to be the best laugh I've had all year....perhaps you can text that to your friends for a great laugh.
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I don't have a cell phone....:(
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I see....perhaps ask jesus if it's funny, he's like a moral cell phone to God.
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fellas, is it too much to ask to get back on the topic?
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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




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... I am genuinley sorry that you find incest and mockery funny....it goes against everything I beleive....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281



Then why do you do it?...


You are sick! I bet you watch horrific things on the news and laugh in the saftey of your own self righteousness.
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Celt made a typo (and it was funny)


What is your excuse?????





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Sorry ..
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Why do you keep apologizing?




 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


... I am genuinley sorry that you find incest and mockery funny....it goes against everything I beleive....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281



Then why do you do it?...


You are sick! I bet you watch horrific things on the news and laugh in the saftey of your own self righteousness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8395281



Celt made a typo (and it was funny)


What is your excuse?????





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Why do what?

What excuse?
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Don't worry. I'm sure OP will be glad to ignore this and many other intelligent posts.
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I said Satan created Dinos as in the contamination of the Genetic Pool..


Why do you think GOD said..Do not marry as the Heathens or the Gentiles..

1st Corinthians 5:1
It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.

Leviticus 18:8 "'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.


Deuteronomy 22:30 A man is not to marry his father's wife; he must not dishonor his father's bed


DO NOT BE LIKE THE PAGANS OR HEATHENS THAT DO NOT KNOW GOD.
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Ok, so let's go over this again, one more time shall we.


Why do you think GOD said..Do not marry as the Heathens or the Gentiles..
GOD did not say this, men wrote that GOD said this, men wrote it down and now you quote it like it was actually spoken by GOD.


1st Corinthians 5:1
It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.

AGAIN words of men. You are asking me to have faith in men and their words, not GOD


Leviticus 18:8 "'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father. ---AGAIN words of men. You are asking me to have faith in men and their words, not GOD


Deuteronomy 22:30 A man is not to marry his father's wife; he must not dishonor his father's bed---
---AGAIN words of men. You are asking me to have faith in men and their words, not GOD


"DO NOT BE LIKE THE PAGANS OR HEATHENS THAT DO NOT KNOW GOD"
---AGAIN words of men. You are asking me to have faith in men and their words, not GOD

Repeated because you obviously just don't seem to understand the emptiness of your argument. You are trying to help me or convince me that the words written by men are the words from GOD. they are not! They are the words of men, nothing more, nothing less!!
As for the quotes you brought up. This is easy to explain. The men in power at that time and during that age of men, did not want everybody fucking everybody else, so they made a few common sense statements and claimed that GOD said it so it wouldn't be questioned by the sheep!


Now time for a question directed at you.
Do you know of, have you ever heard of, are you aware of the emerald plates??
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No..not heard of emerald plates...

I will try and answer your questions when I get back..But let me just leave you with this...

You say Man wrote this and Man wrote that...If GOD was not involved in our lives and being..Man would be trying to learn from every false GOD out in the Universe..

That is the point of Monotheism...

And as many people HATE the jewish people...

The Jewish People have given us the greatest tools and guidance in the world because of their belief in MONOTHEISM..

Because of the jewish people we have learned much about why we are here and what we are suppose to be doing here...
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Monotheism was around long before anyone ever heard of the jewish religion. The Jewish people are the primary religion dominated, you will go to the fictional place known as hell if you don't do what we say. They are one of the primary reasons for conflict in their area. They are no better or worse than any other religion. They are the ones that murdered the one you call Jesus. God, Gods, and religion were all around long before your current monotheism structure. Thousands of years ago. If you are going to quote from a book, then you should at least go back another 4,000 years and quote from the original texts that all of the stories of the bible are derived from. It is true they call those original texts fiction, but then what does that say about the bible!! The Jewish people have distorted why we are here so they can force us to do what they say we should do. Just like every other religion!

I am not saying man wrote this and man wrote that. I am stating a fact. Those words were written, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten, then translated and rewritten by whoever was in power or in control at the the time.



GOD is the universe!!
Love is the only true power of the universe.
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fellas, is it too much to ask to get back on the topic?
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You're right, didn't mean to deviate from the topic :)
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I'd like for our real ancestors (yes extraterrestrials-- Annunaki) to come back and show us how they made us. They could also explain their concept of God and how he made the universe, how it was seeded with life, and how those seeds then spread.
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I don't believe in ur god ever existing. Any being that tries to say the are god or creator or whatever couldn't possibly prove that in any meaningful way.

Even if god exists, how would god prove it to you?

How could god answer for all the suffering in the world?
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fellas, is it too much to ask to get back on the topic?
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Just 'Believing' doesn't matter:

24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. (Luke 13)


Our friend from the UK is helping to make that point.





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24000 children die every day starvation and preventable illness..
Vote more war hawks to office.
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I want God to physically intervene on behalf of the millions of innocent children who suffer so terribly. Until that happens, I just can't believe there's really a loving God up there who gives the slightest crap about us. And don't give me the standard "free will" answer. Children cannot exercise free will, and what about their freedom to live, to not suffer, to not be abused and tortured and starved and killed??? If God is there,in all his omnipotent knowledge and power, and truly CARES about us, he should protect his most vulnerable children. The fact that he does not is what makes many people question or lose their faith.
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the usual...nothing.
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24000 children die every day starvation and preventable illness..
Vote more war hawks to office.
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Please remember that religion is the only reason we are taught to believe that death is a bad thing. Well thats not entirly true is it? It is more like the medical industry that teaches us that death is a bad thing. I do not approve of violence or torture. I despise the vulgar war mongers that are in control of this planet. Suffering of children is nearly unbearable for me to comprehend. But death is what we all have in store for us. At least a physical death anyway.
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fellas, is it too much to ask to get back on the topic?
 Quoting: Salt



Just 'Believing' doesn't matter:

24Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. (Luke 13)


Our friend from the UK is helping to make that point.





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One last thing for Daniel and all of you who believe you are all better than atheists or non believers. I am unworthy, whether you see me as atheist or not, I am nothing to God, I am nothing to anyone. I follow no religion yet admire Jesus. You can mock each other as much as you want but please just take into consideration everything you say, as whatever hurts another, makes another feel bad, ripples beyond anything you could ever imagine...One of the only things in the bible I actually believe explains all this posturing if any of you can be bothered to read any of it, as neither party regard God or Man :

18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
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I don't believe in ur god ever existing. Any being that tries to say the are god or creator or whatever couldn't possibly prove that in any meaningful way.

Even if god exists, how would god prove it to you?

How could god answer for all the suffering in the world?
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God showed Himself directly to Israel.......but they would be in rebellion and worshipping idols only a few days later. This happened on many occasions. The same would happen today.

Man chose to go his own way. God is letting sin and rebellion run its course........so that man will one day never choose that path again.

We will all see where doing things our way will take us.


Satan is currently being allowed as prince of the world.....but this will one day end.

This is sort of the same dilemma which faces a father with teenage children. Does the father follow the son and drag him out of every drinking party.....to physically prevent him from drinking???? What would you do as a teenage son if your father did this.


Or does the father put out the warning......and allow the son to learn about the hard things in life on his own? When the son eventually learns of the folly of his ways......he will remember his father's words.....and return to him.





GLP