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Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer

 
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The actual teachings of Christ, see you don't know what you're talking about, guess you believe in all other gnostic forgeries too. Your gnostic BS is contradictory to the Words that are confirmed both prophecy wise, structure wise and mathematically, and no im not going to give you that information because you've been blinded by your own arrogance.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
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i would be very interested to see what you mean by mathematically confirmed
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You all are wrong! It was a bad translation from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. The whole passage was a taunt for the King of Babylon. It was an idiom, mocking the leader's belief in his own loftiness.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


What do you think rises to the heights of heaven only to be cast down again? its the passages of Venus before the Sun rises and after it sets, It never rises as high as the other planets nor the sun , thus its comparison to Lucifer trying to be the SUN/SON of God

Its also story of Inanna going to the underworld of winter solstice to her lover Dumuzi.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If you were yoked to the Holy Spirit, the answer would have come to you. YHWH is the one who raises up earthly leaders and brings them down:

Ezekiel 30:24-25 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon and put my sword in his hand, but I will break the arms of Pharaoh, and he will groan before him like a man mortally wounded. I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, but the arms of Pharaoh shall fall. Then they shall know that I am the Lord, when I put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon and he stretches it out against the land of Egypt.

Isaiah 45:1 Thus says the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped, to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings, to open doors before him that gates may not be closed.

Ezra 1:2 "Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah."

In the Book of Daniel, the King of Babylon thought himself the one who conquered the known world ("shining one"=proud one, "son of the dawn"=favored by the heavens, seeing himself as a god) and brought down low, just as it was foretold in Isaiah. Nothing more...

While it is fine to study ancient history for clarity, we cannot go to far in assigning the will of YHWH in the actions and beliefs of man. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is the tree of DEATH, for knowledge and "soul power" outside of Him and His will does not save the spirit. Eating of the tree of life means to take the will of the Almighty and have it become your nature. In eternity, we have forever to obtain knowledge and power.
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
You all are wrong! It was a bad translation from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. The whole passage was a taunt for the King of Babylon. It was an idiom, mocking the leader's belief in his own loftiness.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


Its not about being right or wrong. To understand Heyle is important. The more we understand the more awake we are. Yes it is also about the King of Babylon who is a lot of different characters in different religions, which all have half truths. We can find the truth about an individual by putting all the truths together. It brings us up to our time, who is Heyle in our present time? The search for historical truths help us to understand how we can solve our own problems.
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
You all are wrong! It was a bad translation from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. The whole passage was a taunt for the King of Babylon. It was an idiom, mocking the leader's belief in his own loftiness.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


What do you think rises to the heights of heaven only to be cast down again? its the passages of Venus before the Sun rises and after it sets, It never rises as high as the other planets nor the sun , thus its comparison to Lucifer trying to be the SUN/SON of God

Its also story of Inanna going to the underworld of winter solstice to her lover Dumuzi.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


If you were yoked to the Holy Spirit, the answer would have come to you. YHWH is the one who raises up earthly leaders and brings them down:

Ezekiel 30:24-25 And I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon and put my sword in his hand, but I will break the arms of Pharaoh, and he will groan before him like a man mortally wounded. I will strengthen the arms of the king of Babylon, but the arms of Pharaoh shall fall. Then they shall know that I am the Lord, when I put my sword into the hand of the king of Babylon and he stretches it out against the land of Egypt.

Isaiah 45:1 Thus says the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have grasped, to subdue nations before him and to loose the belts of kings, to open doors before him that gates may not be closed.

Ezra 1:2 "Thus says Cyrus king of Persia: The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth, and he has charged me to build him a house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah."

In the Book of Daniel, the King of Babylon thought himself the one who conquered the known world ("shining one"=proud one, "son of the dawn"=favored by the heavens, seeing himself as a god) and brought down low, just as it was foretold in Isaiah. Nothing more...

While it is fine to study ancient history for clarity, we cannot go to far in assigning the will of YHWH in the actions and beliefs of man. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is the tree of DEATH, for knowledge and "soul power" outside of Him and His will does not save the spirit. Eating of the tree of life means to take the will of the Almighty and have it become your nature. In eternity, we have forever to obtain knowledge and power.
 Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind


Death existed before Adam and Eve. Yahoshua makes it plain that know one has ever known his father, He came to reveal him. Yahoshua the Nazoraion is the savior of all. Heyle will not win in the end, though he is the God of this world his Kingdom will fail.
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
3 of GLPs biggest deceivers united, *shocker* :D

nzreva, APOLLO ILLUMINIST and ST In BG.
Now we just lack participation of Hard Truth and Sandy T...

Lunatic Fringe indeed.
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Stauros not a Cross. Nazoraion not Christian, hmm

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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
The creators of Superman were Jewish and Im sure they knew of the lost planet (asteroid belt now between Mars and Jupiter) the former planet that blew up.
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this is get, but...
Its supposedly where baby Lucifer was rescued and adopted by the Elohim..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST

...where does this story come from? is that from hebrew texts?
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food for thought!

[link to www.bardic-press.com]

also, check this out:) ty!

[link to www.gurdjieff.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26968279

i highly recommend 'belzebub's tales to his grandson'.

gurdjieff's writing style is superb, compared to any other writer i've read. no other author has managed to construct sentences half a page long, while keeping them both linguistically and logically correct, with room for double-entendres and many symbolic layers...
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
food for thought!

[link to www.bardic-press.com]

also, check this out:) ty!

[link to www.gurdjieff.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26968279

i highly recommend 'belzebub's tales to his grandson'.

gurdjieff's writing style is superb, compared to any other writer i've read. no other author has managed to construct sentences half a page long, while keeping them both linguistically and logically correct, with room for double-entendres and many symbolic layers...
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Heyle is the son of Shachar. Lucifer is a Latin word you will not find this name in any other text except Latin. Before Latin was Hebrew and Heyle is the name of the son of Shachar.
As far as Shachar which translates shachar {shakh'-ar}
Meaning: 1) dawn at dawn (as adverb)
Origin: from 07836; TWOT - 2369a; n m
Usage: AV - morning 12, day 6, early 2, dayspring 1, light 1, riseth 1, Shahar 1; 24 also black

No one knows how many sons or daughters Shachar has, we only hear about Heyle which ther has been a huge cover up about Heyle..

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nzreva (OP)

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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
Lucifer is mentioned once in the bible and separate to Satan.

So translating the proper name was a waste of time.
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Satan means advasary, it does not apply to just one person.
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
food for thought!

[link to www.bardic-press.com]

also, check this out:) ty!

[link to www.gurdjieff.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26968279

i highly recommend 'belzebub's tales to his grandson'.

gurdjieff's writing style is superb, compared to any other writer i've read. no other author has managed to construct sentences half a page long, while keeping them both linguistically and logically correct, with room for double-entendres and many symbolic layers...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15782258


Writings from Gilgamesh and Genesis accounts
Thread: Writings from Gilgamesh and Genesis accounts
nzreva (OP)

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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
OP, how do you think is the proper way to pronounce it? Blue letter has it as

(for pronunciation only)
Hey lay el three syllables. same as pronouncing Hallel, SAME !

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

[link to www.merriam-webster.com]

I think it can be said hah lel two syllables as if youre beginning to say Hallelujah...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14392840


Early Hebrew used different markings, we have no way of knowing how to pronounce it.

[link to www.ancient-hebrew.org]
Look at the Hhet it looks like a latter poorly built, then look at the El a sprouted grain also, it later becomes an Aleph, look at the lam, later to become the lamed, it looks like a sloppy L, why is it a shepard staff in early Hebrew?

Remember early Hebrew did not use vowels so the to remove the a and e which is a vowel in late Hebrew is a question we should consider unless they are not counted as vowels in early Hebrew.
What I am saying is there a alot of things to consider, as of now this world looks like a Strong power rot leader or El which = a God. Gods to the early people had a different meaning than what we have today, the Gods then were bigger stronger smarter and lived much longer than their subjects. They were a type of flesh, and they died.
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
bump
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Re: Heyle (hay-lale'} is the Hebrew name for Lucifer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9434735

yelal above,
This is the root
yalal
[link to www.blueletterbible.org]

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