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False Teachers Are Preaching Soft, Easy, Whispering Words - They Preach "Another Jesus"

 
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Statement of Faith is a video.
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Three videos, actually. All worth watching. More truth than you'll get from the absolute majority of "Christian" teachers.
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[link to www.graceandtruth.net]

False Teachers Are Preaching Soft, Easy, Whispering Words- They Preach "Another Jesus"- Billy Graham Is A Witch- He Embraces Roman Catholic Doctrine
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This guy is a Nut Case.
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YESHUA said EliYahu shall come, near future, referencing Malichi 4:4 and when he does, His message is REMEMBER the Torah of Moses

The same message that all the prophets taught.

2Ki 17:13-14 Yet YHWH testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep My commandments, My statutes, according to all the Torah which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by My servants the prophets.

Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in YHWH ELOHIYM

To the Torah and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20
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Trust and obey. Rev. 14: 12
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Statement of Faith is a video.
 Quoting: Cassie :-)


Three videos, actually. All worth watching. More truth than you'll get from the absolute majority of "Christian" teachers.
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well I'll watch at home later

thanks

love rb
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This guy is a Nut Case.
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And you are ignorant.
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YESHUA said EliYahu shall come, near future, referencing Malichi 4:4 and when he does, His message is REMEMBER the Torah of Moses
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward


The prophecy of Elijah was a figurative reference to John the Baptist, as clearly indicated by YESHUA Himself. There will be no future appearance of literal Elijah until all believers are reunited with Christ Himself at His second advent and our resurrection.

Matthew 17:10-13 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.


The same message that all the prophets taught.

2Ki 17:13-14 Yet YHWH testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep My commandments, My statutes, according to all the Torah which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by My servants the prophets.

Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in YHWH ELOHIYM

To the Torah and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20
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For those who do not know, the Hebrew word TORAH simply means LAW. In other words, if I were an ancient Hebrew, I would call the laws of a heathen people their torah. In time, the word became a proper noun and referred primarily to the entire Law of Moses (the Old Covenant).

The problem is that I am not entirely sure what you're implying with your post. Are you implying we must follow the Law of Moses? The Bible clearly indicates that the Old Covenant was done away with, and that the New Covenant is eternal. Are you implying that the sacrifice of Christ was insufficient?

Galatians 3:19-25 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Now a mediator is not [a mediator] of one, but God is one. [Is] the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Hebrews 8:7-13 For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.


Stranger, I strongly advise you stop listening to false teachers and actually study the Bible for yourself.
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well I'll watch at home later

thanks

love rb
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Great. Word of warning, though: you may find what the man is saying to be very offensive.
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Trust and obey. Rev. 14: 12
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And Fear. There is no fear of God for most Christians. They think of God as some cuddly teddy bear. He is the Master of life and death. No fear of God means no wisdom. Period.
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Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

Why is it all Forget I, little Ol' I, DAVID THE KING.

Does any think that God Almighty changes his mind when he says FOREVER?

All wait for Jesus, none understand, David prince Forever!!!

Show I all the False David's running around?

Note God say "King" then "Prince", All know Jesus is King of All Kings, and I David King am the Prince FOREVER.

Jesus is still in heaven waiting for all of ye TO LISTEN TO THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT'S THE BANKS STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just doing what a King does, trying to serve the people, ye need to listen to the King.

God Hates Banks, he wants them all closed, want to go to Heaven?

Stop paying bills for about two weeks, just buy food, and wait. Just about 100 Million of ya at one time, that's all.

When the Banks Call, tell them "Jesus Saves".

When Government complains, tell them "YOU BROKE IT, YOU FIX IT"

When they say the "World will End" if people do not pay bills, tell them "Go fly a Kite" and take the family to Walt Disney World with the Money ye saves.

I'm not being funny, I'm the King of Israel, David Slew Goliath, rEmEmber mE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Hero, The Return of The King, Just Little Ol' I David King and Prince FOREVER.

READ THE BOOK, I am in the Holy Koran, The Talmud, and The Holy Bible. ALL KNOW I, David the King of Israel.
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well I checked jim brown at grace and truth out -- can't say I agree with him sorry ;(

the Bible says as much as possible, as much as it is up to us, to live at peace with all men. the fruits of the Spirit are love, joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and self control

sure some have the gift of exhortation. even rebuke at times. but the Bible makes clear we are to LOVE all people -- including our enemies. we are to pray for those who spitefully use us. we are to turn the other cheek to those who smite us. we are to feed and clothe our enemies!!

a couple of the apostles asked Jesus if He wanted them to summon fire from heaven and destroy some ungodly people. Jesus told them they knew not what Spirit He was of. He made clear He came to save the world, not destroy it!

to the merciful, He shows mercy ;)

now abide these three, faith, hope and love -- but the greatest of these is love. and mercy triumphs over judgment

besides we are called to be witnesses -- not judges. we are told to judge not that we not be judged -- and warned that the judgment we impose will be measured against us. correction is fine -- but it must be done with gentleness, lest we ourselves become ensnared!!

finally, God is longsuffering toward us, not wishing any to perish. He so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. we are told to preach this good news to all nations -- tongues and tribes, to the ends of the earth, to the end of the age ;)

righteous anger can be fun, with a certain zeal - I've felt it. I've also felt remorse for it. and I've been convicted my own self. let he who is without sin cast the first stone ;) I must examine MYSELF to make sure I'm in the faith - and not worry so much about others

love, rb
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Most Christians contradict God all of the time and have the nerve to get angry at the person correcting them on that.
 Quoting: Philemon


Can you tell me more about this? What exactly are they doing?

I'm asking because I recently discovered that I have been manipulated and betrayed by the people at my church that I loved and trusted the most -- so I'm trying to sort this out. I'm thinking they might fit into this category of fake Christians... proclaiming love and peace yet using people, gossiping, lying, manipulating, etc. for their own ends. I have pointed this out, and now they are angry. Imagine that.
"For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."
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Above all, God is our Father. If my earth parents had carried through with a fraction of their threats I wouldn't be here now to say this lol. Yes we are to fear God, Love God, fear Him, but don't forget He made the ultimate sacrifice for your soul. He isn't going to toss us aside that easily. It's a long story but I know this for a fact. Pray for those who hold themselves above the idea of a Creator. They have a long long way to fall.
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this is why you should know your Bible, so you will not be deceived
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Trust and obey. Rev. 14: 12
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And Fear. There is no fear of God for most Christians. They think of God as some cuddly teddy bear. He is the Master of life and death. No fear of God means no wisdom. Period.
 Quoting: Philemon




For it is written

the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed." John 6:27-58

You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
-James 4:4

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
-Galatians 6:7

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
-Colossians 2:8

Rev 13:9-10 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; (Betraying your family and friends) he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. (Guns!) Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
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I'm glad im not the only one that noticed this.

They put a donk on it.

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Most Christians contradict God all of the time and have the nerve to get angry at the person correcting them on that.
 Quoting: Philemon


Can you tell me more about this? What exactly are they doing?

I'm asking because I recently discovered that I have been manipulated and betrayed by the people at my church that I loved and trusted the most -- so I'm trying to sort this out. I'm thinking they might fit into this category of fake Christians... proclaiming love and peace yet using people, gossiping, lying, manipulating, etc. for their own ends. I have pointed this out, and now they are angry. Imagine that.
 Quoting: Renaissance Woman


Mt. 23

They betray, they lie, they pretend.
they hate with fury if you challange them...

be like them or walk away.

Read Pagan Christianity by Viola and BArna.

A Bible believing truth friendly book.
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what you want to do with that right, is you want to put a banging donk on it.
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Bitch! There are two motherfucking Jesus'


YOU KNOW THIS!
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Most Christians contradict God all of the time and have the nerve to get angry at the person correcting them on that.
 Quoting: Philemon


Can you tell me more about this? What exactly are they doing?

I'm asking because I recently discovered that I have been manipulated and betrayed by the people at my church that I loved and trusted the most -- so I'm trying to sort this out. I'm thinking they might fit into this category of fake Christians... proclaiming love and peace yet using people, gossiping, lying, manipulating, etc. for their own ends. I have pointed this out, and now they are angry. Imagine that.
 Quoting: Renaissance Woman


Mt. 23

They betray, they lie, they pretend.
they hate with fury if you challenge them...

be like them or walk away.

Read Pagan Christianity by Viola and Barna.

A Bible believing truth friendly book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3736494


Thank you. I re-read Mt. 23 with these folks in mind... spot on. I have downloaded the book you recommended. From the reviews, it looks like I will thoroughly enjoy it -- although it may just add fuel to my fire. This ties in well with my personal spiritual revolution that began about a year ago; thanks again for your response.
"For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."
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Stop paying bills for about two weeks, just buy food, and wait. Just about 100 Million of ya at one time, that's all.
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Is it ok if I wait till spring to pull this stunt. I pretty much like my central heat in the winter, and I don't won't to end up crawling back to them and telling them I listened to the wrong advice and could they turn the heat back on.


Philemon this verse says a lot about the condition of the church (as prophesied) in these last of the last days of the Church Age:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 23:15

The Pharisees gained them **(converts) **(added here by me for clarity) either to swell their own numbers, or to make gain by extorting their money under various pretences; and when they had accomplished that, they took no pains to instruct them or to restrain them. They had renounced their superstition which had before somewhat restrained them, but the Pharisees had given them no religion in its place to restrain them, and they were consequently left to the full indulgence of their vices. Barnes Notes on the Bible

These words were true during the days when Jesus walked the earth and Today, these words are once again fulfilled in the visible Church just before the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, to destroy out of the Whole earth all those things that offend, and set up His glorious Kingdom come down to us from Heaven (For wherever Christ is the Kingdom is - now hidden in these vessels of clay, soon to become a visible and literal Kingdom, filling the whole earth)

One thing that I will add here in addition to the Barnes Notes quote: The Pharisees were practicing an admixture of Torah and Babylonian mystery religion, adding to and taking away from the words of God:

Woe unto you, lawyers! for you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in you hindered. **(Hindered with Lies, the tool of the Devil - adding to the Word of God, thus, watering down the original intent of His Word)
Luke 11:52

Notice how they do this today. They have sent in hundreds of corrupt dynamic equivalent, copyrighted Bibles, with words changed and passages missing, and then sent in the wolves in sheep clothing (secret society members, the same that called for Rome to kill Jesus) to reinterpret the Word of God to suit their agenda, ecumenical love fests with the Real Jesus standing outside of the door, knocking -because they have cast the Real Jesus out of their assemblies and worship the god of self, that Satan told them they could ascend to - being their own gods.

Where the Word of God is not, there is no Spirit and no conversion and no Truth. The covenant with Death is here - signed sealed and delivered. No one can be called a Christian if they are converted into a Lie. No matter how touchy feely tingly they feel inside.

Even so, come Lord Jesus

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