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I AM A SUPPORTER OF ISRAEL, BUT THEIR BILLION DEAL ON JETS FROM ITALY CRANKS ME . WHY NOT BUY AMERICAN.

 
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The other thing that gripes my butt is, with all we do for Israel, why are they not a bigger trading pardner. You rarely see anything made in Israel on our shelves. Why?
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I believe in the days to follow...many countries that the US had supported or given aid, will show their true feelings toward us & our country!

And that's the scary part of it all....IMHO!
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I believe in the days to follow...many countries that the US had supported or given aid, will show their true feelings toward us & our country!

And that's the scary part of it all....IMHO!

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Have to agree, those countries have been poking us in the eye for years and we keep giving. This is one point where I agree with Ron Paul, cut em all off and reset.
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i wouldnt worry bout it mate, it will be a whole in the ground before long so no need to pay six billion aid.
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i wouldnt worry bout it mate, it will be a whole in the ground before long so no need to pay six billion aid.
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I don't see where that asinine comment had anything to do with my thread.
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You cannot be serious...
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You cannot be serious...
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Very.
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The USA is better off with this deal.

They never pay back the "loans" they borrow to buy the jets from the USA. It miraculously gets forgiven time after time.
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The USA is better off with this deal.

They never pay back the "loans" they borrow to buy the jets from the USA. It miraculously gets forgiven time after time.
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Maybe so.
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Israel dont buy US jets BECAUSE THEY GET THEM FOR FREE!
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Israel dont buy US jets BECAUSE THEY GET THEM FOR FREE!
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So you say Italy is giving them away??????????lol
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We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us.
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Then it is not aid, it's a bribe
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Think? A US General or admiral gets an inside deal and sells to his counterpart in Italy ....

Italy exports, the US exports - and everyone is happy.

Obuma gets a trade deal. blah blah in the CBS news

Lots of govt insiders make money.
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Hawker Beach Craft hear in Kansas, is sueing the United States Gov. They just lost a 50+ billion dollar contract to build a Special Operations aircraft for the millitary. They lost the contract to a Italian company...How's that for preserving American Jobs...Lowest bidder...Give me a fukin break.
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I just saw on TV, FOX NEWS ticker, where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
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Because they don't trust the president.. do you trust a man who has shook hands with everyone of their enemies and plus he puts anything to do with Israel off he shows no respect to them I am glad they did what they did this way you know they will not depend on a deadbeat so called allies
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I just saw on TV, FOX NEWS ticker, where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
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Because they don't trust the president.. do you trust a man who has shook hands with everyone of their enemies and plus he puts anything to do with Israel off he shows no respect to them I am glad they did what they did this way you know they will not depend on a deadbeat so called allies
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Point well made.
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I just saw on TV, FOX NEWS ticker, where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
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Because they don't trust the president.. do you trust a man who has shook hands with everyone of their enemies and plus he puts anything to do with Israel off he shows no respect to them I am glad they did what they did this way you know they will not depend on a deadbeat so called allies
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Point well made.
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That's what happens when you don't go to war on demand.
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That is exactly my point, with our true unemployment, some say well over 20%, I think they should do business with us first.
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We're in the process of trying to figure what is going to replace our own aging fleet of T-38's which are 60's era planes...I don't really think we've developed a new trainer in the last few decades.

Not really sure if the whole dedicated "trainer" route is one we really do anymore....we have a whole more of a variety of fighter aircraft than most countries do....so we may just go to those instead, not really sure.
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Buy some more Hawks

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Not sure that we ever bought any...those things look like old F-4 knockoffs...lol!
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You bought the design and modified it to this..

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The American company that would have built them was doing well. Then Bain Capital invested in the company. They fired a lot of the staff to make it seem profits were rising, encouraging other Americans to invest. Once the stock rose high enough, Bain dumped the stock, making it worthless. The company folded and everyone who worked there is now on unemployment.


Okay, so maybe this didn't happen to a military plane plant, but it happened to many other American tech and manufacturing companies. And so many of you want Romney as President? All he knows how to do is shut down American manufacturing jobs while using it to line his pockets.
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I just saw on TV, FOX NEWS ticker, where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
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Because they don't trust the president.. do you trust a man who has shook hands with everyone of their enemies and plus he puts anything to do with Israel off he shows no respect to them I am glad they did what they did this way you know they will not depend on a deadbeat so called allies
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Point well made.
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That's what happens when you don't go to war on demand.
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I don't think that is it, because America will defend Israel when the time comes in spite of Obummer. I think it's more of a slap in the face of Obummer for being such an ass to friendly nation.
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What difference it make, we the common people will not see a penny of it anyway.
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What difference it make, we the common people will not see a penny of it anyway.
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If you work in manufacturing you would, some actually work in the industry you know.
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BiBi to Barack, stick it up my ass, I'll stick it up yours.
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BiBi to Barack, stick it up my ass, I'll stick it up yours.
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That's kinda how I am leaning.
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I just saw on tv where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
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no linky you stinky
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Linky my ass, I don't even know how to link, so just watch the news scroll on Fox News.
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Df, here is you a link to confirm what you are saying

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Because they don't trust the president.. do you trust a man who has shook hands with everyone of their enemies and plus he puts anything to do with Israel off he shows no respect to them I am glad they did what they did this way you know they will not depend on a deadbeat so called allies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5939760

Point well made.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


That's what happens when you don't go to war on demand.
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I don't think that is it, because America will defend Israel when the time comes in spite of Obummer. I think it's more of a slap in the face of Obummer for being such an ass to friendly nation.
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So the 60 or 70 years of unconditional support and aid goes down the drain all because of obama? That's not very friendly.
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Are where are the Israelis getting the billion $$$ to buy those Italian jets???

You get three guesses, and the first two don't count.
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Italians bought billions dollars of Uzi machine guns along with other weapons ...

they have to valance the trade
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Israel dont buy US jets BECAUSE THEY GET THEM FOR FREE!
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So you say Italy is giving them away??????????lol
 Quoting: Desert Fox

Maybe because Italy is on the verge of bankruptcy, they need a quick infusion of American dollars at arms length, so they are getting it via Israel.

You talk about American dollars like they are things of real value not just a lot of hot air inflating a fiat bubble. We can't follow the money because its just promises going around in circles.

Israel has a unique role in all this because they have a free trade deal with both Europe and the USA/NAFTA. That way they can do middleman transactions between the two.

You asked about Israeli products on US shelfs? - that Intel sticker on your computer, usually denotes an Israeli pentium chip inside.
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I just saw on tv where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


no linky you stinky
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Linky my ass, I don't even know how to link, so just watch the news scroll on Fox News.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Df, here is you a link to confirm what you are saying

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Thanks, someone above posted it too, but thank you Tango.
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I just saw on TV, FOX NEWS ticker, where Israel is buying thirty trainer airplanes from Italy at a cost of 1 billion dollars. WTF, we build planes for petes sake. We give billions to Israel in foreign aid, the least they could do is to buy from us. This must be a result of the piss poor treatment Israel has received from Obummer administration. What do you think?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


well, OP, you are not the only one who could complain. Just look at the germans, they pay since 70 yrs to Israel - do you think they get a lot back ;-)

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