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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut trying to prove himself, with his own observations with his little telescope and thinks he has the upper hand in astronomy. Quoting: ChuulRa 10954792 Compared to you? Yeah, I do. I didn't even mention anything about my own scope though, appparently you lack reading comprehension skills. If you can not connect the dots then please stop posting in these threads. Oh i forgot you are a shill. Quoting: ChuulRaAnd once again you can't argue with what I actually said, so you resort to defamation instead and try to get me to shut up. Well to bad for you i sometimes have something that called brain so i don't need to read if i want to know which person someone is. And i'm good at this. Second i was not about to argue with you, i just want say that you are a shill for the folks here. Like I said, you resort to defamation. By the way, you're completely wrong about me, I'm just an amateur astronomer who knows what he's talking about. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Dec. 30th 1983 the Washington Post ran an article saying that A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction on the Western edge of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite (IRAS). Quoting: enki2012 The 1983 article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. In fact, it initially found 9 unidentified point-like sources of infrared light, listed here: 0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18 0 0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11 52 0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31 13 0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17 16 0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56 6 0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14 50 1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57 50 1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4 8 1732+239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56 36 Here are the papers that identified these objects: Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66 Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8. Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417. None of those coordinates correspond to the "blocked out area" of google sky, which as I've pointed out countless times, can be accessed direct from the primary source by anyone and in higher quality than is present on google sky. No serious researcher uses google sky to access sky survey data since it's just a second hand source of pre-existing sky surveys and is not as high a quality as the originals. Well you know that BLOCKED-OUT area in Google Sky & MS WW telescope with the coordinates of: 5h 53m 41s,-6 00 58 Quoting: ACHere you go, the blocked-out area, direct from the primary source. Incidentally, the palomar sky survey is decades old, it was around long before google sky. In fact, I used to use it back in college before I even started "googling." [link to archive.stsci.edu] [link to archive.stsci.edu] [link to archive.stsci.edu] The Vatican spends MILLIONS on an Infra-red telescope named Lucifer. Quoting: ACNo, they didn't. In fact, it's not a telescope (it's a camera) and it's not on their telescope. LUCIFER is an infrared spectrograph for the Large Binocular Telescope. the Vatican observatory's VATT is a totally different telescope, does not use that imager, and its only connection to it is that it's on the same freaking mountain. The MILLIONS spent on the US governments South Pole InfraRed gov. telescope. Quoting: ACSPT is not an infrared telescope. It's a microwave/millimeter wave telescope. [link to www.jstor.org] You've been filling your head with too much nonsense. Your basing your idea against this OS based on the Palomar sky survey that you stated is "decades" old? & assuming this object is moving I'm sure it wouldn't be in the same spot as is was decades ago. You don't get it, the missing google sky area IS the palomar sky survey image. Yes, the images you seen in google sky are decades old. Lucifer is the name the Vatican is calling the whole telescope. Quoting: ACWrong and wrong. LUCIFER is the name of a spectrograph on the LBT, which is not the Vatican's scope. The Vatican's scope is the VATT observatory located nearby. Lucifer - Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) partners in the U.S, Germany and Italy announced April 21 that the first of two new innovative near-infrared cameras/spectrographs for the LBT Quoting: ACThanks, you just proved everything I said and that you lied. The LBT is the name of the whole scope, it is not the Vatican's scope, which is the VATT observatory located near the LBT. |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro- I have a quick question, one I'm sure you've answered many times. So please forgive the redundancy here if so. Quoting: Gthree777 Why does google sky have this area blacked out? Is it just because they never got around to uploading any images there? If I could sum it up in one line, it's this, google sky sucks. It's full of stitching errors, it's just a panorama of pre-existing sky surveys, and no serious researcher uses it to access sky survey data. Why that particular missing segment is there is unknown to me, it also doesn't really matter to me. The original palomar scans are higher quality anyway. I'm more inclined to think this blacked out area is there strictly because "They" know people believe the same things the OP posted. And they black out that area as a means of tracking these people that subscribe to these theories. This may be for nefarious reasons of catagorizing people for elimination as "terrorists" under things like the NDAA, or for use by geoups like the ones we can't mention here, for the purpose of studying the effects of dis-info or propaganda on the masses... Or it might just be a harmless inside joke on the part of Google? Quoting: ACJust curious why you think they blacked it out? Thanks. Personally I'd sooner believe it's a conspiracy to just weed out those who know how to do proper astronomical research from those who don't. The instant I see someone start off with "I saw X in google sky" I know they don't know crap about accessing publicly accessible sky survey data and probably don't know much about real astronomy either. It's actually a very effective litmus test in that sense; the ones who fall for that nonsense are precisely the people who would be the least capable of exposing any "conspiracy." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9965381 United States 02/17/2012 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you enjoy promoting bullshit, or are you truly dumber than dogshit and actually believe in this Nibiru crap? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10976385 Wait, nevermind, I checked your recent postings--it is the latter. wow, you're really clever. The whole "wait, never mind" thing is really cute too.. Guess you're working hard, attempting to discredit what myself along with many other people feel. So your sole purpose to be on GLP is to disagree?. How do you get paid for that anyway, is it set price by the letter or word?.. Ignore the Trolls OP. They have no life |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you enjoy promoting bullshit, or are you truly dumber than dogshit and actually believe in this Nibiru crap? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10976385 Wait, nevermind, I checked your recent postings--it is the latter. wow, you're really clever. The whole "wait, never mind" thing is really cute too.. Guess you're working hard, attempting to discredit what myself along with many other people feel. So your sole purpose to be on GLP is to disagree?. How do you get paid for that anyway, is it set price by the letter or word?.. Ignore the Trolls OP. They have no life Since when is exposing the truth "trolling?" Pop quiz, did the Vatican name their telescope in Arizona "LUCIFER" or not? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2081064 United States 02/17/2012 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer - Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) partners in the U.S, Germany and Italy announced April 21 that the first of two new innovative near-infrared cameras/spectrographs for the LBT Quoting: ACThanks, you just proved everything I said and that you lied. The LBT is the name of the whole scope, it is not the Vatican's scope, which is the VATT observatory located near the LBT. If you go to the Vatican Observatory site: ( [link to vaticanobservatory.org] You will find the The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates VATT (The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope) & is located at the Mt. Graham International Observatory in Southeastern AZ. Here's an article calling it the "Lucifer Telescope"- [link to redicecreations.com] and from Discovery an article titled "Lucifer to reveal fiery starbirth". Whether your calling the individual light gathering porting of the Telescope Lucifer or the whole telesoope as it appears everyone else is, the main point which I think you missed in your egotistical I know more than you childlike attitude is that "If there is no planet Nibiru and the God's who created us are not coming back, why in the hell would the Vatican who just recently changed their minds and said they believe that other intelligent life besides earth exists go ahead and build/fund and have a staff astronomer looking into outter space?... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2081064 United States 02/17/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Discovery article calling the whole telescope Lucifer: [link to news.discovery.com] |
yourmamaknows User ID: 10096249 United States 02/17/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's probably hard to see. Didn't that dark haired lady at the NASA press conference say something like, "a large object in a roughly circular orbit"? Say she was under oath and on a witness stand at that point, you would go after her with a barrage of questions. She would get so confused she wouldn't know if she was taking a shit or winding her watch. And she would spill the beans. And that's my ruling. |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will find the The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates VATT (The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope) & Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2081064 VATT, not LBT, VATT, how dense are you? Two different telescopes. is located at the Mt. Graham International Observatory in Southeastern AZ. Quoting: ACRight, they're located on the same mountain, but they're two completely different telescopes, each with their own building and facilities. and from Discovery an article titled "Lucifer to reveal fiery starbirth". Quoting: ACLearn to read: "A seriously big telescope is in the works on a mountain top in Arizona. The Large Binocular Telescope, or LBT, has two 8-meter wide mirrors that work together to form one powerful telescope. Its capabilities are being expanded as a powerful new instrument called LUCIFER will be attached to the LBT ready for scientific observations." Quoting: discoveryThe telescope is called the LBT, the Vatican's telescope is called VATT, the instrument on the LBT is called LUCIFER. VATT: [link to conceptactivityresearchvault.files.wordpress.com] LBT: [link to www.aip.de] See the difference? Two different telescopes, two different buildings, same mountain. Let me make it realllly simple for you using an example from amateur astronomy. Let's say billy bob lives in chiefland astronomy village. Let's say joe blow also lives in chiefland astronomy village but does not live with billy bob. Billy bob calls his telescope Alice and for christmas he buys himself a new infrared camera for Alice that he calls Satan. This is like you accusing Joe Blow of buying a new infrared camera and calling it Satan simply because they both live in Chiefland astronomy village. Last Edited by Astromut on 02/17/2012 06:30 PM |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so they consider the whole thing, telescope, camera etc all under the title Lucifer Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2081064 Bullshit. By your own article that YOU linked to: "A seriously big telescope is in the works on a mountain top in Arizona. The Large Binocular Telescope, or LBT, has two 8-meter wide mirrors that work together to form one powerful telescope. Its capabilities are being expanded as a powerful new instrument called LUCIFER will be attached to the LBT ready for scientific observations." Quoting: discoveryThe telescope is called the LBT, the Vatican's telescope is called VATT, the instrument on the LBT is called LUCIFER. VATT: [link to conceptactivityresearchvault.files.wordpress.com] LBT: [link to www.aip.de] See the difference? Two different telescopes, two different buildings, same mountain. |
Fuck Jobby User ID: 10111560 United Kingdom 02/17/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are probably a couple of planets that orbit this solar system that haven't been detected, although they will be so far behined Pluto that they will most likely be gas giants or ice planets. They would have No effect at all on Earth or any other known solar system planets |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me make it realllly simple for you using an example from amateur astronomy. Let's say billy bob lives in chiefland astronomy village. Let's say joe blow also lives in chiefland astronomy village but does not live with billy bob. Billy bob calls his telescope Alice and for christmas he buys himself a new infrared camera for Alice that he calls Satan. This is like you accusing Joe Blow of buying a new infrared camera and calling it Satan simply because they both live in Chiefland astronomy village. Quoting: Astromut Actually, more accurately it's like you accusing Joe Blow of naming his telescope Satan because his neighbor Billy Bob bought an infrared camera for his own telescope and named it Satan. |
Inkedscorp User ID: 10169198 United States 02/17/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good job connectimg the dots. The asshole who jumped all over your post is pissed that you nailed it. The thread will get pushed back and covered as do all important things on here. Remember Obama said "the last thing people will be thinking about in 2012 is elections. " Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4184955 Can you provide a link of some sort of him quoted as saying this? Be the change you want to see in the world -Gandhi |
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Canuckchick User ID: 7273558 Canada 02/17/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you OP for posting this information and bringing to light more details of what we, the aware, already understand and we appreciate all the more knowledge possible. It is not possible to convince those who refuse to welcome awareness or see beyond their own narrow viewpoints so do not waste your time or energy on them. Please just continue to post facts, details and information for those of us who appreciate it. :) There are many FACTS and EVIDENCE available which prove planet x and what is happening with our planet and why. Anyone in doubt, open one of these books...they are not filled with doom and gloom, they merely lay out facts which can be researched and proven. They put it all together and if you take the time to read these books, the dots will be very connected...especially since these books were written several years back and what they say will happen IS CURRENTLY happening, which sure makes me aware that more of what they say WILL happen, is on it's way. I don't know anything 100% but these books sure present some hard to ignore evidence and facts. [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.amazon.com] |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice copyright violation on that whole article copy there, written by native americans with an axe to grind because they're pissed people are building telescopes on "sacred ground." Incidentally, they're also wrong and they have about as poor an understanding of whose telescope that is who named it as the OP does. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please just continue to post facts, details and information for those of us who appreciate it. :) Quoting: Canuckchick Speaking of facts and details... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Just saying, I back up what I say with facts and details, that's precisely what I'm doing. Oh, but somehow I'm not "awake." Right, whatever. By the way, I'm not the one trying to sell books. Last Edited by Astromut on 02/17/2012 07:07 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 823828 United States 02/17/2012 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut trying to prove himself, with his own observations with his little telescope and thinks he has the upper hand in astronomy. Quoting: ChuulRa 10954792 If you can not connect the dots then please stop posting in these threads. Oh i forgot you are a shill. be careful you will get banned for picking on astro-nuts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 808697 United States 02/17/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut is correct, there is no nibiru. The problem which is comming is right infront of us on a day to day basis. THE SUN/SOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10970107 Look you can't deny later part of feb through early march earthquakes seem to be on the rise, like 2011 we are coming up to that same position of the last major quake japan march 11 2011. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 823828 United States 02/17/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut is correct, there is no nibiru. The problem which is comming is right infront of us on a day to day basis. THE SUN/SOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10970107 Look you can't deny later part of feb through early march earthquakes seem to be on the rise, like 2011 we are coming up to that same position of the last major quake japan march 11 2011. If we get another major quake around this time frame there's no denying a heavy mass object headed our way. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/17/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astromut is correct, there is no nibiru. The problem which is comming is right infront of us on a day to day basis. THE SUN/SOL! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10970107 Look you can't deny later part of feb through early march earthquakes seem to be on the rise, like 2011 we are coming up to that same position of the last major quake japan march 11 2011. If we get another major quake around this time frame there's no denying a heavy mass object headed our way. Then where are the perturbations in the positions of the planets? Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist |