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Canuckchick User ID: 7273558 Canada 02/17/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro-whoever, have you actually read any of the informative books with actual facts and evidence of planet x? Quoting: Canuckchick LOL, still pushing those books I see. I've read the claims, tested them, found them to be false. Quote what you think is best proof of planet X. have you not observed all the dead animals, the increase of quakes, volcanoes, and other strange earth changes? Quoting: CanuckHandwaving, without even any proof of any statistically significant increases, let alone any proof of causation by an undiscovered planet. If you have not read any documented facts, Quoting: chickLMFAO! I've read tons of so-called "facts," handwaving like you just did, and guess what? It's equine excrement. I would be very interested to hear exactly what claims you have tested and found to be false? That alone sounds like puffed-up grandstanding...and I am not pushing books, I am merely suggesting you read them and the reason I give those as examples is because I recently read them both after hearing both authors speak in interviews and what they and the books said made sense. The facts they state in their books can be looked up and verfied easily so it is confusing when you say you tested their claims....I feel you have never read much of anything documented. As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? I do not claim to know all the facts but I do claim to have actually done some research and have my eyes wide open in observation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/17/2012 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Astro-whoever, have you actually read any of the informative books with actual facts and evidence of planet x? Quoting: Canuckchick LOL, still pushing those books I see. I've read the claims, tested them, found them to be false. Quote what you think is best proof of planet X. have you not observed all the dead animals, the increase of quakes, volcanoes, and other strange earth changes? Quoting: CanuckHandwaving, without even any proof of any statistically significant increases, let alone any proof of causation by an undiscovered planet. If you have not read any documented facts, Quoting: chickLMFAO! I've read tons of so-called "facts," handwaving like you just did, and guess what? It's equine excrement. I would be very interested to hear exactly what claims you have tested and found to be false? That alone sounds like puffed-up grandstanding...and I am not pushing books, I am merely suggesting you read them and the reason I give those as examples is because I recently read them both after hearing both authors speak in interviews and what they and the books said made sense. The facts they state in their books can be looked up and verfied easily so it is confusing when you say you tested their claims....I feel you have never read much of anything documented. As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? I do not claim to know all the facts but I do claim to have actually done some research and have my eyes wide open in observation. The dead birds etc are due to the magnetosphere failing. If you look you will soon see that all of the animals dying are ones that rely on magnetic navigation. |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/17/2012 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would be very interested to hear exactly what claims you have tested and found to be false? Quoting: Canuckchick Tons, over the years I've been here in fact. Do you want me to recount my entire posting history? That alone sounds like puffed-up grandstanding... Quoting: CanuckNo, but if I actually went and recounted every planet X claim I've debunked it might sound more like grandstanding. As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? Quoting: chick[link to www.upi.com] [link to www.theaustralian.com.au] [link to nl.newsbank.com] [link to news.google.com] [link to query.nytimes.com] |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/17/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humour me here astroturf... Quoting: Canuckchick Name ONE claim you have tested from either of those books? Name one and tell me how you conducted your "test"? You haven't presented any claims from either of those books. No, I'm not going to buy either of the books just to entertain you. I'm talking about Planet X as a subject to which many people have made claims. Those two books do not hold a monopoly on the claims, but if you want to present claims from those books go ahead. So far what I've seen from you is handwaving to unrelated matters like animal deaths, earthquakes, etc. |
Canuckchick User ID: 7273558 Canada 02/17/2012 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you admit that you have not read these books yet earlier you claimed to have tested their claims. I love how you are trying to turn it around on me now and take the onus off of you. I am happy to share information from these books but I do believe I asked you first to please share at least one claim you have tested, if not from these books which you now admit you have not read, but do please share ANY claim you have tested. Just one. And add how you did this testing. In the meantime I shall compose a post of some of the elements of these books that I found very interesting and convincing of the potential threat of planet x. Off you go now...enlighten us all astroboy. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/17/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humour me here astroturf... Quoting: Canuckchick Name ONE claim you have tested from either of those books? Name one and tell me how you conducted your "test"? You haven't presented any claims from either of those books. No, I'm not going to buy either of the books just to entertain you. I'm talking about Planet X as a subject to which many people have made claims. Those two books do not hold a monopoly on the claims, but if you want to present claims from those books go ahead. So far what I've seen from you is handwaving to unrelated matters like animal deaths, earthquakes, etc. I have a few questions for you Astromut: Why is the magnetosphere failing and letting in the solar wind? Why are the earths magnetic poles changing? Why are all of the planets in the solar system heating up? |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you admit that you have not read these books yet earlier you claimed to have tested their claims. Quoting: Canuckchick Again, the two books you're pushing do not hold an exclusive monopoly on Planet X claims. In fact, some of them even post their claims online as well as in book form. Why are you acting like these two books hold a monopoly on Planet X claims? Which author is paying you to push their books or are they all paying you? I love how you are trying to turn it around on me now and take the onus off of you. Quoting: CanuckThe onus IS on you. if not from these books which you now admit you have not read, Quoting: CanuckI never claimed to have read the books, in fact ever since you showed up to push the books I've found it endlessly amusing that that's all you seem to do. but do please share ANY claim you have tested. Quoting: CanuckJust one. And add how you did this testing. You could have bothered to read the posts I already made on this thread, but you didn't. Had you done so you would have already found one such example: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humour me here astroturf... Quoting: Canuckchick Name ONE claim you have tested from either of those books? Name one and tell me how you conducted your "test"? You haven't presented any claims from either of those books. No, I'm not going to buy either of the books just to entertain you. I'm talking about Planet X as a subject to which many people have made claims. Those two books do not hold a monopoly on the claims, but if you want to present claims from those books go ahead. So far what I've seen from you is handwaving to unrelated matters like animal deaths, earthquakes, etc. I have a few questions for you Astromut: Why is the magnetosphere failing and letting in the solar wind? Why are the earths magnetic poles changing? Why are all of the planets in the solar system heating up? The magnetic poles always change, it's what they do. Over time as we get closer and closer to the next MAGNETIC pole flip they'll become less stable. Likewise the sun itself goes through cyclical change. As stars go it's actually fairly stable, but that does not mean it is unchanging. None of this indicates "planet x" so I really don't see what it has to do with the subject at hand. |
Canuckchick User ID: 7273558 Canada 02/18/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your exact words were "I've read the claims, tested them, found them to be false." So what I asked you which you still have failed to answer, still playing dodge ball I see...WHAT CLAIMS HAVE YOU TESTED AND FOUND TO BE FALSE? AND HOW DID YOU CONDUCT THESE TESTS? just answer the question astroglide. no links to foggy half-answers...just state clearly on here. if you can. and you do not seem to be able to. Did you still want me to provide a list for you of the information I gleaned from these books that I found to be potentially correct about planet x? Just waiting for you to actually state what claims you have tested and found to be false....any time now... |
Canuckchick User ID: 7273558 Canada 02/18/2012 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is what I learned from these books: 1. To take a closer look at the ancient texts and writings by various world cultures and see the common threads that run throughout all...massive earth disasters that take place every 3400 years approx, with very similar circumstances recorded all over the world. 2. Question why so many underwater cities are not allowed to be looked at further, why divers are denied access to these sites and why the ones that have been investigated show similar signs of earth disasters from a shared past. 3. Looking closer at the discovery of planet x in 1983 and then the subsequent cover up. 4. the claims in these books that as we approach 2012, more and more sightings of planet x will be captured and sure enough, that is indeed happening! Of course these sightings are debunked constantly but just like the earth noises/groaning, they cannot all be hoaxes. I refuse to believe there would be that many devious people out there to all take the time to make hoaxes. Maybe I am too optimistic but I just think not everyone is that cruel. 5. Speaking of the earth sounds/groaning, this is mentioned in the books long before any of these instances were recorded worldwide...again, it was said these sounds would grow as we approach 2012 and sure enough... 6. The mass animal/fish/wildlife deaths...I agree it is from the magnetic effects but those are caused by the incoming planet x...and these are mentioned as harbinger signs to watch for...long before they started happening en masse! Anyway, there is much more but that is a starter list and I am tired and going to bed and resolve to take the advice from Marshall Masters and not bother trying to convince those that are unconvinceable...it is a waste of time and energy and although Astrodome is unable to state an answer to the one simple question he was asked, I am happy to state my findings for anyone who is interested. I would love any suggestions of any other informative books on the subject too... |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 01:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what I asked you which you still have failed to answer, still playing dodge ball I see... WHAT CLAIMS HAVE YOU TESTED AND FOUND TO BE FALSE? AND HOW DID YOU CONDUCT THESE TESTS? Quoting: Canuckchick just answer the question astroglide. no links to foggy half-answers... It's not a foggy half answer, it's a perfect example showing exactly what you asked me for: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] No, I'm not going to detail every single claim of Planet X that I've debunked. But there's one example for you. It's right there, exactly what you asked for. The more you keep ignoring it, the more you expose yourself. |
ShillsRUs User ID: 8068220 United States 02/18/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is what I learned from these books: Quoting: Canuckchick 1. To take a closer look at the ancient texts and writings by various world cultures and see the common threads that run throughout all...massive earth disasters that take place every 3400 years approx, with very similar circumstances recorded all over the world. 2. Question why so many underwater cities are not allowed to be looked at further, why divers are denied access to these sites and why the ones that have been investigated show similar signs of earth disasters from a shared past. 3. Looking closer at the discovery of planet x in 1983 and then the subsequent cover up. 4. the claims in these books that as we approach 2012, more and more sightings of planet x will be captured and sure enough, that is indeed happening! Of course these sightings are debunked constantly but just like the earth noises/groaning, they cannot all be hoaxes. I refuse to believe there would be that many devious people out there to all take the time to make hoaxes. Maybe I am too optimistic but I just think not everyone is that cruel. 5. Speaking of the earth sounds/groaning, this is mentioned in the books long before any of these instances were recorded worldwide...again, it was said these sounds would grow as we approach 2012 and sure enough... 6. The mass animal/fish/wildlife deaths...I agree it is from the magnetic effects but those are caused by the incoming planet x...and these are mentioned as harbinger signs to watch for...long before they started happening en masse! Anyway, there is much more but that is a starter list and I am tired and going to bed and resolve to take the advice from Marshall Masters and not bother trying to convince those that are unconvinceable...it is a waste of time and energy and although Astrodome is unable to state an answer to the one simple question he was asked, I am happy to state my findings for anyone who is interested. I would love any suggestions of any other informative books on the subject too... DAMN! I can't wait until 2013 gets here so we can put this shite to rest. Pathetic. I thought we were done with this crap last year, but alas it keeps coming back like "Chuckie" I mean in Post#3 you mention "more and more" sightings of Planet X as we approach 2012.....despite that fact that there has not been a single verifiable sighting to date. I mean can we at start at 1 sighting before we tout "more and more". Friggin morons. Last Edited by ShillsRUs on 02/18/2012 01:30 AM |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. Looking closer at the discovery of planet x in 1983 and then the subsequent cover up. Quoting: Canuckchick You apparently haven't even read this thread. Page 1: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] They didn't discover planet X. 4. the claims in these books that as we approach 2012, more and more sightings of planet x will be captured and sure enough, that is indeed happening! Quoting: CanuckLMFAO! Such BS. If Planet X is visible, then what are the coordinates? Why aren't amateur astronomers reporting it? Why only youtubers with crappy cell phone cameras taking pictures of lens flares, err, "planet X?" Of course these sightings are debunked constantly but just like the earth noises/groaning, they cannot all be hoaxes. Quoting: CanuckNo, you're right, some are honest mistakes based on lens flares, filter flares, sun dogs, and overloading of CCDs by pointing them straight at the sun without proper filtration. I refuse to believe there would be that many devious people out there to all take the time to make hoaxes. Quoting: chickFalse dilemma; people can be sincerely wrong. 6. The mass animal/fish/wildlife deaths... Quoting: ChickAlready met your goalpost about this, you failed to acknowledge that. Anyway, there is much more but that is a starter list Quoting: ChickAnd as I expected, most of it wouldn't have anything to do with "planet X" even if it were true. Earth groans? Seriously? Do tell what the causal relationship is there between hearing sounds and "planet X." and although Astrodome is unable to state an answer Quoting: ChickYou lie: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/18/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humour me here astroturf... Quoting: Canuckchick Name ONE claim you have tested from either of those books? Name one and tell me how you conducted your "test"? You haven't presented any claims from either of those books. No, I'm not going to buy either of the books just to entertain you. I'm talking about Planet X as a subject to which many people have made claims. Those two books do not hold a monopoly on the claims, but if you want to present claims from those books go ahead. So far what I've seen from you is handwaving to unrelated matters like animal deaths, earthquakes, etc. I have a few questions for you Astromut: Why is the magnetosphere failing and letting in the solar wind? Why are the earths magnetic poles changing? Why are all of the planets in the solar system heating up? The magnetic poles always change, it's what they do. Over time as we get closer and closer to the next MAGNETIC pole flip they'll become less stable. Likewise the sun itself goes through cyclical change. As stars go it's actually fairly stable, but that does not mean it is unchanging. None of this indicates "planet x" so I really don't see what it has to do with the subject at hand. Do you not think it's important that the magnetosphere is falling apart? You highlight MAGNETOSPHERE. You know as well as me that we have never gone through this process/phase before. |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut You haven't presented any claims from either of those books. No, I'm not going to buy either of the books just to entertain you. I'm talking about Planet X as a subject to which many people have made claims. Those two books do not hold a monopoly on the claims, but if you want to present claims from those books go ahead. So far what I've seen from you is handwaving to unrelated matters like animal deaths, earthquakes, etc. I have a few questions for you Astromut: Why is the magnetosphere failing and letting in the solar wind? Why are the earths magnetic poles changing? Why are all of the planets in the solar system heating up? The magnetic poles always change, it's what they do. Over time as we get closer and closer to the next MAGNETIC pole flip they'll become less stable. Likewise the sun itself goes through cyclical change. As stars go it's actually fairly stable, but that does not mean it is unchanging. None of this indicates "planet x" so I really don't see what it has to do with the subject at hand. Do you not think it's important that the magnetosphere is falling apart? You highlight MAGNETOSPHERE. You know as well as me that we have never gone through this process/phase before. Earth has gone through geomagnetic reversal quite a few times. You and I have yet to experience one, but see the neat thing about earth is that it has a sizeable atmosphere as well and even during a reversal the magnetic field does not drop to zero. The atmosphere is what protects us from electromagnetic forms of radiation and it's actually quite effective at attenuating cosmic rays that manage to make it through the geomagnetic field as well. Now, if we had a very extended period without a geomagnetic field we'd start to see depletion of the atmosphere and eventually wind up looking more like Mars, but there's no reason to believe that will happen anytime soon. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...then why are you even bringing it up in this thread?! You're just making random comments? You want me to start a class to teach you the basics of geomagnetic reversals, the sun, and the cycles each are known to experience? Last Edited by Astromut on 02/18/2012 01:53 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 764206 United States 02/18/2012 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Heres the thing, first off, it is not going to affect everything in an instant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9994577 That's the first thing it would affect. Secondly, what if everything is being affected simultaneously, in a manner that we wouldn't notice any big changes? Quoting: ACInverse square law so no, everything would not be affected equally. There are actual anomalies taking place, look at the instance of Venus, slowing its rotation speed. Quoting: ACLOL, yeah, that's it, it slowed down Venus' rotation and yet magically failed to perturb its position in the sky at all. Are you listening to yourself? Astro - then why is Saturn laying on its side, etc.? Isn't this a "perturbation?" Also, what do you think the Destroyer of the Bible is? If it is not "Planet X" then are you saying the Bible is just BS? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/18/2012 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...then why are you even bringing it up in this thread?! You're just making random comments? You want me to start a class to teach you the basics of geomagnetic reversals, the sun, and the cycles each are known to experience? Not being funny but its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to stars and telescopes ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/18/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 35) Astromut we are waiting for you. ;) |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/18/2012 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...then why are you even bringing it up in this thread?! You're just making random comments? You want me to start a class to teach you the basics of geomagnetic reversals, the sun, and the cycles each are known to experience? Not being funny but its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Says the person who doesn't even seem to know what the thread's about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7147611 United States 02/18/2012 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Making the assumption that myself and others are posting in bad faith and to believe that what we're debunking must be true because we spend time debunking it is not at all logical or rational. I suppose then you believe Saturn lost its rings? Quoting: Astromut [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] I've already explained why I'm here, but perhaps to make it easier for you to understand just know this; above all, I'm here because I enjoy being here, which at the end of the day is not so different from why most people come here. Hey whoa, wait a minute, Saturn had rings!! WTF? When did that shit happen? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10970107 United Kingdom 02/18/2012 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...then why are you even bringing it up in this thread?! You're just making random comments? You want me to start a class to teach you the basics of geomagnetic reversals, the sun, and the cycles each are known to experience? Not being funny but its clear you have no idea what you are talking about. Says the person who doesn't even seem to know what the thread's about. It's about the distraction of planet X. You know as well as I do. |