NIbiru/Planet-X is on it's way, connect the dots.. NIBIRU FOUND! . | |
Silence Dogooder User ID: 9967954 United States 02/23/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have other telescope data to look at this part of space? vita, libertà e felicità |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11331621 United Kingdom 02/23/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK - let's assume that Nibiru does exist. The world GOVT's could not allow this information to be made public. So...Google Space has a cropped out section of space at the coordinates that Nibiru is claimed to be. I looked at Google Space and did not find any other cropped out sections of space. So...why do we find only this part of space cropped out? Quoting: Silence Dogooder Does anyone have other telescope data to look at this part of space? OMG you just dont get it along with most of the people on this thread. This is not a PLANET! ITS A NEW AREA OF SPACE WE ARE ENTERING WHICH IS CAUSING THE CHANGE! |
MrOysterhead User ID: 10873772 United States 02/23/2012 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't really change my perspective unless someone can show a list of incidents comparable to what has been going on since 2010-present like the FACTS laid out on here: [link to www.end-times-prophecy.org] Quoting: Canuckchick astro has done that i remember growing up we had a series of fish kills in our river that happened several times. turned out to be this [link to en.wikipedia.org] or going to the beach there being jellyfish on the beach for as far as you could see. There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
MrOysterhead User ID: 10873772 United States 02/23/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK - let's assume that Nibiru does exist. The world GOVT's could not allow this information to be made public. So...Google Space has a cropped out section of space at the coordinates that Nibiru is claimed to be. I looked at Google Space and did not find any other cropped out sections of space. So...why do we find only this part of space cropped out? Quoting: Silence Dogooder Does anyone have other telescope data to look at this part of space? keep in mind that isnt real time There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
Canuckchick User ID: 11297818 Canada 02/23/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't really change my perspective unless someone can show a list of incidents comparable to what has been going on since 2010-present like the FACTS laid out on here: [link to www.end-times-prophecy.org] Quoting: Canuckchick astro has done that i remember growing up we had a series of fish kills in our river that happened several times. turned out to be this [link to en.wikipedia.org] or going to the beach there being jellyfish on the beach for as far as you could see. Astro has NOT done that. He has picked and plucked isolated incidents from a variety of dates. The list I shared from 2010 until now shows a regular and constant stream of incidents in date order. He has not done this nor would he be able to. Even if he put all the incidents from the 90s and early 2000s into date order, he still would not have a list that is happening on the frequency level as what I provided. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/23/2012 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More shit from the late 90's, the list keeps growing. Quoting: Astromut [link to pqasb.pqarchiver.com] [link to nl.newsbank.com] [link to news.google.com] [link to pqasb.pqarchiver.com] And don't give me that "it doesn't count if it's man made" goalpost moving crap again, if it had happened this year you'd be claiming the authorities were simply lying about the cause to hide the fact that "planet X" did it. [link to nl.newsbank.com] [link to nl.newsbank.com] [link to nl.newsbank.com] [link to webcache.googleusercontent.com] [link to news.google.com] [link to news.google.com] These look more like what is happening now on a large scale and I think these incidents are likely isolated precurser incidents to what amplified in 2010 into present day. you have proven that nothing will make you change your prespective or even consider it Yup, bingo. Canuckchick is absolutely immune to facts and evidence. Anything that proves her wrong is a "precursor incident." |
MrOysterhead User ID: 10873772 United States 02/23/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't really change my perspective unless someone can show a list of incidents comparable to what has been going on since 2010-present like the FACTS laid out on here: [link to www.end-times-prophecy.org] Quoting: Canuckchick astro has done that i remember growing up we had a series of fish kills in our river that happened several times. turned out to be this [link to en.wikipedia.org] or going to the beach there being jellyfish on the beach for as far as you could see. Astro has NOT done that. He has picked and plucked isolated incidents from a variety of dates. The list I shared from 2010 until now shows a regular and constant stream of incidents in date order. He has not done this nor would he be able to. Even if he put all the incidents from the 90s and early 2000s into date order, he still would not have a list that is happening on the frequency level as what I provided. thats because no such list has been put together and why is that? because planet x, niburu, 2012, aliens wasnt in your face everywhere you turned. they burden of proof is on you. compile a list that covers at least a few decades then depending on the results i'll be impressed There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/23/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? Quoting: canuckchickJust so the folks at home can be reminded of where the goalposts started. That was several football fields ago. There's really no point at this point, she'll clearly ignore the evidence no matter how many mass deaths are listed from the late 90's, but I'm having fun finding these so maybe I'll look for even more just for fun a little later. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11331621 United Kingdom 02/23/2012 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? Quoting: canuckchickJust so the folks at home can be reminded of where the goalposts started. That was several football fields ago. There's really no point at this point, she'll clearly ignore the evidence no matter how many mass deaths are listed from the late 90's, but I'm having fun finding these so maybe I'll look for even more just for fun a little later. Its because the magnetosphere/earths magnetic feild is failing/decreasing. |
enki2012 (OP) User ID: 2081064 United States 02/23/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As for the dead animals, can you provide any documented proof of a mass amount of dead birds and fish occuring any time prior to 2010? Quoting: canuckchickJust so the folks at home can be reminded of where the goalposts started. That was several football fields ago. There's really no point at this point, she'll clearly ignore the evidence no matter how many mass deaths are listed from the late 90's, but I'm having fun finding these so maybe I'll look for even more just for fun a little later. Astro- Please stop pushing your idea's/agenda onto others, you bully people who don't agree with you & it takes away from any valid point you're attempting to make. If someone is asking you a direct question or challenging what you assert to be your truth, then fine go ahead an make a valid reply, but please don't assert your views onto others. Next time if you're so hell bent on pushing why you feel there is no Nibiru or Planet-X you should start your own thread, maybe you've already done that and no one had an interest in it & didn't comment or whatever but seriously I don't like how you feel the need to be all over this thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9258796 United States 02/23/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He doesn't make personal attacks, except to indicate how the standards for proof have been changed. The problem is that people make assumptions on limited information with little understanding of underlying phenomena then call anyone who provides information that goes against their's a shill. That isn't productive and all Astromut is trying to do is show that with a little more research it's pretty apparent that this is not a 100% new phenomena. The whole idea of I don't like that you post evidence contrary to my beliefs, go away please is just mindbogglingly childish. |
enki2012 (OP) User ID: 2081064 United States 02/23/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have trouble understanding why people are so taken aback by his posting of reasonable evidence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258796 He doesn't make personal attacks, except to indicate how the standards for proof have been changed. The problem is that people make assumptions on limited information with little understanding of underlying phenomena then call anyone who provides information that goes against their's a shill. That isn't productive and all Astromut is trying to do is show that with a little more research it's pretty apparent that this is not a 100% new phenomena. The whole idea of I don't like that you post evidence contrary to my beliefs, go away please is just mindbogglingly childish. Hey this is GLP where people with theories/assumptions can open a dialog with others who agree or disagree and maybe see something from a diff. perspective. Post your belief/evidence in a clear manner and move on, if you argue why you think your right it takes away from the intent & makes one seem desperate to push an agenda and is very childish. What's apparent to astro isn't to others, respect other peoples point of view. But say "I'm right and everyone else who say's Nibiru is real is wrong" and then try over and over and over to change someones mind, makes him look like stupid. Last Edited by enki2012 on 02/23/2012 08:09 PM |
yourmamaknows User ID: 11202689 United States 02/23/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually I don't think any person can state with full certainty that if there was a brown dwarf we would all see it by now. Especially if coming up from the south. Quoting: Canuckchick After all, they did put up that costly south pole telescope for a reason... I think there is no one on earth who can say they know for sure. No one living today has been alive during the passage of a brown dwarf so it is all based on theory as to when we would see it or how things would unfold. And all we can do is watch the world around us and look at the writings left from the people of long ago... Yes, there is. Brown Dwarfs don't magically absborb all light or become invisible. Also like I said before, the planets orbits would be affected by one and astronomers would notice. You cannot defy physics. But Astromut is not an astronomer. He is an astromoner. Look at his icon and read the caption. What fun would it be without die hard debunkers bloviating all the time? |
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enki2012 (OP) User ID: 2081064 United States 02/23/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually I don't think any person can state with full certainty that if there was a brown dwarf we would all see it by now. Especially if coming up from the south. Quoting: Canuckchick After all, they did put up that costly south pole telescope for a reason... I think there is no one on earth who can say they know for sure. No one living today has been alive during the passage of a brown dwarf so it is all based on theory as to when we would see it or how things would unfold. And all we can do is watch the world around us and look at the writings left from the people of long ago... Yes, there is. Brown Dwarfs don't magically absborb all light or become invisible. Also like I said before, the planets orbits would be affected by one and astronomers would notice. You cannot defy physics. But Astromut is not an astronomer. He is an astromoner. Look at his icon and read the caption. What fun would it be without die hard debunkers bloviating all the time? Good catch! astro"moner"? maybe that's a super astronomer I'm pretty sure if that was his profession he should hopefully know how to spell it. Last Edited by enki2012 on 02/23/2012 08:14 PM |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 02/23/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually I don't think any person can state with full certainty that if there was a brown dwarf we would all see it by now. Especially if coming up from the south. Quoting: Canuckchick After all, they did put up that costly south pole telescope for a reason... I think there is no one on earth who can say they know for sure. No one living today has been alive during the passage of a brown dwarf so it is all based on theory as to when we would see it or how things would unfold. And all we can do is watch the world around us and look at the writings left from the people of long ago... Yes, there is. Brown Dwarfs don't magically absborb all light or become invisible. Also like I said before, the planets orbits would be affected by one and astronomers would notice. You cannot defy physics. But Astromut is not an astronomer. He is an astromoner. Look at his icon and read the caption. What fun would it be without die hard debunkers bloviating all the time? Good catch! astro"moner"? maybe that's a super astronomer I'm pretty sure if that was his profession he should hopefully know how to spell it. I put it in quotes for a reason. That and my screenname are both making fun of the "Nibiru Insider" who pronounces "astronomers" "astromoners." |
yourmamaknows User ID: 11202689 United States 02/23/2012 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102 Yes, there is. Brown Dwarfs don't magically absborb all light or become invisible. Also like I said before, the planets orbits would be affected by one and astronomers would notice. You cannot defy physics. But Astromut is not an astronomer. He is an astromoner. Look at his icon and read the caption. What fun would it be without die hard debunkers bloviating all the time? Good catch! astro"moner"? maybe that's a super astronomer I'm pretty sure if that was his profession he should hopefully know how to spell it. I put it in quotes for a reason. That and my screenname are both making fun of the "Nibiru Insider" who pronounces "astronomers" "astromoners." I liked the "Nibiru Insider". Just started watching "The Walking Dead". Season one episode one. Sure, a big magnetic object could reduce human minds to mush, like a statin drug. Tower of Babel? Quien sabe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11235816 United States 02/23/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one think that Astromut is one of the only voices of reason on this site. He constantly debunks silly psuedo-scientific-mystical-youtubian theories that are usually spawned by one of the many "prophets" on this forum.... Remember when Elenin was going to kill us all? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9258796 United States 02/23/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one think that Astromut is one of the only voices of reason on this site. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11235816 He constantly debunks silly psuedo-scientific-mystical-youtubian theories that are usually spawned by one of the many "prophets" on this forum.... Remember when Elenin was going to kill us all? This is all I'm trying to say. I'm not saying you have to listen to him, but don't pretend like youtube videos don't have an agenda either (hint: you're more likely to watch them if they promise you're dying or will be dead soon). |
ShillsRUs User ID: 8068220 United States 02/23/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I for one think that Astromut is one of the only voices of reason on this site. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11235816 He constantly debunks silly psuedo-scientific-mystical-youtubian theories that are usually spawned by one of the many "prophets" on this forum.... Remember when Elenin was going to kill us all? ahhhh....the good ole' days |
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Reality420 User ID: 11089964 United States 02/23/2012 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhh, I remember 2002/2003 when tallying whale strandings, fish kills, bird kills, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. was all the rage to 'prove' PX was coming to kill us all with big pointy teeth. It was the same BS as we're seeing now. PXers are immune to rational thought. It's a religion. In fact, a large number are End-Times Bibletards which, of course, does make it a matter of religion. As we all know, religious beliefs are set in stone and science and logic are considered anathema. Been there, done that. Where were you guys in 2002/2003? You'd remember that all this handwaving to natural disasters has already been done... to death. Some selected Fish Kills only from Florida 1977-1978: 10000 - Mullet, Needlefish 012077 1/20/1977 Clearwater Pinellas Fish Kill Cold Weather Island Estates 2000 - Snook, Sand Perch, Mullet, Snapper, Moonfish 012877 1/28/1977 Jacksonville Duval Fish Kill Pollution San Carlos Creek 50000 - Mullet, Trout, Redfish, Mangrove Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Snook, Spot, Croakers, Catfish, Ladyfish, Drum 020177 2/1/1977 St Petersburg Pinellas Fish Kill Cold Weather John's Pass 1000 - Menippe mercenaria, Mullet, Crab 020477 2/4/1977 West Palm Beach Palm Beach Fish Kill Pollution Curry Park Boat Ramp 50000 - Menhaden, Alewives 041677 4/16/1977 Santa Rosa Beach Calhoun Fish Kill Net Dump Hog Inlet Sound and White Light Hole 2000 - Chofers, Wonkers, Catfish 053177 5/31/1977 Fort Pierce St. Lucie Fish Kill Net Dump Hutchinson Island 50000 - Herring 061877 6/18/1977 St Petersburg Pinellas Fish Kill Pollution Tri Estate Canal 3000 - Bunker 072677 7/26/1977 Cape San Blas Gulf Fish Kill Net Dump Cape San Blas 30000 - Menhaden 082277 8/22/1977 Key Largo Monroe Fish Kill Algae Bloom Key Largo Trailer Village 5000 - Menhaden 101177 10/11/1977 Unknown Miami-Dade Fish Kill Algae Bloom Buoy Key 5000 - Pinfish, Ladyfish, Catfish, Seatrout 101577 10/15/1977 Key Largo Monroe Fish Kill Red Tide Buoy Key 10000 - Pinfis 101577 10/15/1977 Miami Miami-Dade Fish Kill Algae Bloom Snapper Creek Canal 20000 - Sailors Choice 113077 11/30/1977 Coral Gables Miami-Dade Fish Kill Pollution South Lake 2000 - Threadfish, Shad, Largemouth Bass, Sunfish 060178 6/1/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Big Lagoon 2000 - Alewives 062378 6/23/1978 Hobe Sound Martin Fish Kill Unknown Hobe Sound Public Beach 1000000 - Menhaden 080578 8/5/1978 Apalachicola Santa Rosa Fish Kill Low Dissolved Oxygen Garcon Point 10000 - Alewives, Croakers 092278 9/22/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Bayou Grande 2000 - Menhaden 100278 10/2/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Davenport Bayou 2000 - Mullet 101378 10/13/1978 North Miami Beach Palm Beach Fish Kill Unknown Big Manion Island [link to research.myfwc.com] My, my, look at those numbers. Tens of thousands, sometimes millions of fish at a time. And just from one state let alone the whole world. I guess Nibble-U came through in '77-'78. Right? Reality |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/23/2012 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhh, I remember 2002/2003 when tallying whale strandings, fish kills, bird kills, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. was all the rage to 'prove' PX was coming to kill us all with big pointy teeth. Quoting: Reality420 11089964 It was the same BS as we're seeing now. PXers are immune to rational thought. It's a religion. In fact, a large number are End-Times Bibletards which, of course, does make it a matter of religion. As we all know, religious beliefs are set in stone and science and logic are considered anathema. Been there, done that. Where were you guys in 2002/2003? You'd remember that all this handwaving to natural disasters has already been done... to death. Some selected Fish Kills only from Florida 1977-1978: 10000 - Mullet, Needlefish 012077 1/20/1977 Clearwater Pinellas Fish Kill Cold Weather Island Estates 2000 - Snook, Sand Perch, Mullet, Snapper, Moonfish 012877 1/28/1977 Jacksonville Duval Fish Kill Pollution San Carlos Creek 50000 - Mullet, Trout, Redfish, Mangrove Snapper, Jack Crevalle, Snook, Spot, Croakers, Catfish, Ladyfish, Drum 020177 2/1/1977 St Petersburg Pinellas Fish Kill Cold Weather John's Pass 1000 - Menippe mercenaria, Mullet, Crab 020477 2/4/1977 West Palm Beach Palm Beach Fish Kill Pollution Curry Park Boat Ramp 50000 - Menhaden, Alewives 041677 4/16/1977 Santa Rosa Beach Calhoun Fish Kill Net Dump Hog Inlet Sound and White Light Hole 2000 - Chofers, Wonkers, Catfish 053177 5/31/1977 Fort Pierce St. Lucie Fish Kill Net Dump Hutchinson Island 50000 - Herring 061877 6/18/1977 St Petersburg Pinellas Fish Kill Pollution Tri Estate Canal 3000 - Bunker 072677 7/26/1977 Cape San Blas Gulf Fish Kill Net Dump Cape San Blas 30000 - Menhaden 082277 8/22/1977 Key Largo Monroe Fish Kill Algae Bloom Key Largo Trailer Village 5000 - Menhaden 101177 10/11/1977 Unknown Miami-Dade Fish Kill Algae Bloom Buoy Key 5000 - Pinfish, Ladyfish, Catfish, Seatrout 101577 10/15/1977 Key Largo Monroe Fish Kill Red Tide Buoy Key 10000 - Pinfis 101577 10/15/1977 Miami Miami-Dade Fish Kill Algae Bloom Snapper Creek Canal 20000 - Sailors Choice 113077 11/30/1977 Coral Gables Miami-Dade Fish Kill Pollution South Lake 2000 - Threadfish, Shad, Largemouth Bass, Sunfish 060178 6/1/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Big Lagoon 2000 - Alewives 062378 6/23/1978 Hobe Sound Martin Fish Kill Unknown Hobe Sound Public Beach 1000000 - Menhaden 080578 8/5/1978 Apalachicola Santa Rosa Fish Kill Low Dissolved Oxygen Garcon Point 10000 - Alewives, Croakers 092278 9/22/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Bayou Grande 2000 - Menhaden 100278 10/2/1978 Pensacola Escambia Fish Kill Unknown Davenport Bayou 2000 - Mullet 101378 10/13/1978 North Miami Beach Palm Beach Fish Kill Unknown Big Manion Island [link to research.myfwc.com] My, my, look at those numbers. Tens of thousands, sometimes millions of fish at a time. And just from one state let alone the whole world. I guess Nibble-U came through in '77-'78. Right? Reality Epic win there, nicely done. |
Reality420 User ID: 11089964 United States 02/23/2012 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. You'd think that would have taught them some humility and caused some self-reflection upon their critical thinking skills. If I remember correctly, the debunkers were 100% correct even though the Elenincompoops were berating them at every turn. Somebody was telling them the truth and somebody was lying to them. They apparently enjoy being lied to. Have fun. R. |
Canuckchick User ID: 11297818 Canada 02/24/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so I had a look at that Florida website with all the listed fish kills. I put in the dates from 1970 to 2011 and although there were some isolated incidents of many thousands of fish dying at one time, most of the incidents were on a really small scale. I think a minor amount of fish kill along coastal areas is normal. Beaches filled as far as the eye can see with mountains and tonnages of fish worldwide on a regular, consistant basis, combined with a multitude of other animals, is not normal. You either see it for what it is...or you don't. If you choose to believe the earth is behaving normally then it will be your own downfall. |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/24/2012 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so I had a look at that Florida website with all the listed fish kills. I put in the dates from 1970 to 2011 and although there were some isolated incidents of many thousands of fish dying at one time, Quoting: Canuckchick Some? SOME? Reality420 just listed off a whole bunch from 1977 to 1978. Thousands upon thousands of fish! And that was just ONE state! If ever there was proof that you're immune to facts and evidence, this is it. Poe's law is starting to apply here, I can't even tell anymore if you're trying to parody Planet X'er beliefs, or if you seriously think this way. Last Edited by Astromut on 02/24/2012 12:23 AM |
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Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 02/24/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's lame even as CG fakes go. It's not even a true video, it's just panning and scanning a still photo that's been photoshopped. The background noise is fixed giving it that still image look, the panning is poorly done keyframing, he zooms in past the native resolution of the still image and you can see all kinds of aliasing, etc, etc, etc. |