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Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.

 
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Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.
I just heard this on local news. SEARCHING FOR LINKS. Gimme a few minutes. I hope TN follows suit! [Always a big feud between KY/TN over who did what first and such lol.]


The update: the referendum was sealed, that it was proven not to go against 4th amendment: "ban on illegal search and seizure."

Maybe...just maybe once...this country is doing the good deed.

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Can't find links yet, not sure what to type in. :\
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About time...SUCK IT PARASITES!5a
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Re: Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.
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That's when the referendum passed. It got "checked" by some court recently and was ruled to not inhibit your 4th amendment rights.

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Watch the crime rate rise
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Watch the crime rate rise
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Hopefully. We can them put them down like dogs. KY/TN in general don't give 2 chits about criminals.

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Watch the crime rate rise
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watch the citizens take matters into their own hands and start capping the trash people
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i thought Florida already did this

Thread: WAY TO GO FLORIDA and RICK SCOTT!! WELFARE APPLICANTS MUST PASS DRUG TEST

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Has their's been challenged yet? Many states have done it but when they get looked at by the courts they all seem to fail with something about the 4th amendment. KY is the first state to pass the courts.
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It is all confirmed. Big news around here. Feel proud my states doin something good.
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Yay.. my state isn't COMPLETELY full of retards it seems. At least they can get this and gun laws right. lol

...there will probably be an increasing market here for people selling clean piss now.
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Yay.. my state isn't COMPLETELY full of retards it seems. At least they can get this and gun laws right. lol

...there will probably be an increasing market here for people selling clean piss now.
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Yea but this is the stickler...there is no defined period when the tests will be administered. :\ COULD possibly be a "good faith" effort but not entirely sure.
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Yay.. my state isn't COMPLETELY full of retards it seems. At least they can get this and gun laws right. lol

...there will probably be an increasing market here for people selling clean piss now.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


Yea but this is the stickler...there is no defined period when the tests will be administered. :\ COULD possibly be a "good faith" effort but not entirely sure.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


If I had to guess, it'll be like when I last took a drug test for a job. Go into a medical office... empty your pockets... go into the bathroom, pee in the cup and DON'T flush... give it to the lady to verify the temp of the piss... gather your things and go home and await the results.
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Good job KY, run your costs up to clean out the very most bottom half of people, who are the only ones too stupid not to do a cleanse before walking into the welfare office.

What a joke

This will cost more than it will save

My brother was on probation for years, and the second he got the call he could pass a urinealysis from various ways.. his favorite being chugging a gallon of cranberry juice
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Re: Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.
I just heard this on local news. SEARCHING FOR LINKS. Gimme a few minutes. I hope TN follows suit! [Always a big feud between KY/TN over who did what first and such lol.]


The update: the referendum was sealed, that it was proven not to go against 4th amendment: "ban on illegal search and seizure."

Maybe...just maybe once...this country is doing the good deed.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


oh the labs are going to get very busy...
& all the money they make from the tests
government lab maybe... job security??

they're all practicing the line now,"I'm sorry mr. smith, your test has not come back yet... give us a call back.. next month"

I do agree that all recipients of aid, should undergo testing for non prescription drugs... also measure the blood achohol levels as well..
weekly check-ups?? $$$$ spent to save how much??? and who ends up paying for it.. the same that are paying for it now
who wins... government once again!!!
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They're going to find, just like Florida, that it costs much more to administer the program than it ever saves. But, of course, the real point is to pass money to some lawmakers buddy who happens to own a testing facility and to paint people who need public assistance and scrounges. I'll bet Romney's $10,000 that drug use is more prevalent among the lawmakers than it is among the indigent.
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About time...SUCK IT PARASITES!5a
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It would be nice if the parasites in the Kentucky legislature were required to undergo the same drug testing.
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It is all confirmed. Big news around here. Feel proud my states doin something good.
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I'm proud too.

See the text of Kentucky House Bill 208

[link to www.lrc.ky.gov]

Kentucky State Motto

"United we stand, divided we fall."

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Re: Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.
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Has their's been challenged yet? Many states have done it but when they get looked at by the courts they all seem to fail with something about the 4th amendment. KY is the first state to pass the courts.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


I can't understand why, the people that earn money in this country are drug tested.

If it is illegal to drug test them, then it is illegal to drug test us.
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Can't stop using drugs, alcohol, or going to strip clubs?
Then you not getting any of my tax dollars.

It's not violating the forth amendment if you aren't forced to do it.
I'll give you a loan, if you agree to pay me back.
"YOUR VIOLATING MY HUMAN RIGHTS@!@!!!!!!"

You can rent this home from me, so long as no drugs enters this building.
"MY RIGHTS!!!! YOU VIOLATED THEM @@@@#@!!!!!"
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Re: Kentucky is the 1st state in the union to require urine analysis for any state or governmental aid.
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Has their's been challenged yet? Many states have done it but when they get looked at by the courts they all seem to fail with something about the 4th amendment. KY is the first state to pass the courts.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


I can't understand why, the people that earn money in this country are drug tested.

If it is illegal to drug test them, then it is illegal to drug test us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10117829


It was something about the method needed to "find out" you "needed" to be drug tested.
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I just forked out $90. to enroll in a random drug and alcohol testing program for the privilege of having a commercial drivers license. Perhaps after 40 plus years of the soul sucking welfare state the good people have realized that our country is almost destroyed. rant
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This will get struck down in court just like the ones in Florida and Michigan. It also costs more money and doesn't prevent any people on drugs from getting welfare. Have fun giving a ton of money to the lawyers and being pwned by the ACLU.

"Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year."

Only people this is helping is drug testing companies. You would never know that though because the politicians they vote for mask these scams by saying hurrr welfare moochers takin our joarbs meanwhile you just spent 200 million dollars on a 50k dollar problem that can't be solved.

On a side note I am gonna open up a drug testing company in Kentucky and get some of that government cheese.
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good they use counterfeit money
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This will get struck down in court just like the ones in Florida and Michigan. It also costs more money and doesn't prevent any people on drugs from getting welfare. Have fun giving a ton of money to the lawyers and being pwned by the ACLU.

"Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year."

Only people this is helping is drug testing companies. You would never know that though because the politicians they vote for mask these scams by saying hurrr welfare moochers takin our joarbs meanwhile you just spent 200 million dollars on a 50k dollar problem that can't be solved.

On a side note I am gonna open up a drug testing company in Kentucky and get some of that government cheese.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1182487


If you watched the news, it passed the courts. They used Patriot Act to request the SSN from the government for all it's state's citizens as far as who needed testing.

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Watch the crime rate rise
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Hopefully. We can them put them down like dogs. KY/TN in general don't give 2 chits about criminals.
 Quoting: LakeXeno


I'm getting bored giving you 5 stars on every thread OP, but you deserve 'em.

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Same should be done for those who wants to run for any official position...

that should be fun to figure out...
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It's a start.

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