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The Truth of Our Origins... PART TWO!!

 
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The Truth of Our Origins... PART TWO!!
(Those visiting from the anthropology forum biodiversity, let this be proof I did not plagiarize)


Everything you know is WRONG. The government is corrupt, science is invalid, and religion is irrational.

Please be aware that I am obligated to question
mostly science in this thread. I am very spiritual
and I try to help and ease as many as I can
through this small spark of consciousness
I call my life.

I am not here to prove religion wrong either...
However many adjustments I think world religion
needs, I am not here to point out the frailties
of it because it has given direction and purpose
to billions.

Here we go. Those who have read Part one already..
Brush up or scroll on down.

ALSO NOTE: Lloyd Pye's book "Everything you know
is wrong"
can be a slog at points, so with permission
I have cliff noted his material and integrated
most of it with my work here for greater effect.


When you seek a path to any new truth, you must
expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’
Albert Guérard

An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief
systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and
become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs.
Wilhelm Reich

When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads.
Ron Paul


For every PhD., there is an equal and opposite PhD.
Gibson’s Law

Anyone can pilot an improbability, but it takes a special
touch to fly and safely land an absurdity.
Kurt Kuzba

A genius is someone who aims at a target no one else
can see—and hits it!
Anthony Quinn

The main purpose of science is to investigate the
unexplained, not to explain the uninvestigated.
Dr. Stephen Rorke



You can sum up the entirety of this document as being
the answer to the question.. "If Bigfoot exists, along
with 3 other types, then if all 4 early "prehuman"
bones belong to them... How did we get here?

I am going to break down the "Intervention Theory
in 3 phases...

How life became on Earth. Who are the Hominids,
and a general conclusion. I will try to
keep everything short. You guys are lucky
I am pecking at the keyboard rather than
screaming in some of your faces... =]

So, again, instead of me screaming..."WE ARE
A GENETICALLY ENGINEERED SPECIES..
WANT PROOF!?!" in your faces like I
normally do to people, Please check out
any other breaking news, and hopefully
return and continue on down below
for some more shocking research.

The supreme arrogance of religious thinking is that a
carbon-based bag of mostly water on a speck of ironsilicate
dust around a boring dwarf star in a minor
galaxy in an unfashionable suburb of (our) supercluster
would look up at the sky and declare: “It was all made
so that I could exist!”

Peter Walker

Statements made by alternative researchers like
me are automatically contradicted by scientists
insisting we are not simply wrong, but stupidly
wrong. They further insist we have no right to
challenge their cherished beliefs because our
only “credentials” are an unwarranted faith in
our ability to discern truth from nonsense.

[This doesn’t refer to all scientists. Some still
willingly risk reputation and security to explore
topics that defy dogma. However, they are few.]
Every point I discuss is supported by facts in
available research, but I am often criticized by
skeptics. Why? Because the issues I discuss are
long-lived sacred cows to mainstream sciences.

Creationists of all kinds, which includes the
smarter, more reasonable, and typically
wellcredentialed Intelligent Design proponents,
insist the only answer to questions about the
origins of life or humans is: “God did it!”

Darwinists of all stripes insist with equal zeal
that their pet theory of evolution best explains
how life originated. Their 150-year-old dogma
asserts: “It just happened—poof!—like magic!”
After the magic moment when life kick-started
itself into existence, it initiated a self-contained
and imperceptibly slow-but-steady growth into
ever more complex forms, until those reached
the apex of an arduous climb—humanity.

In contrast, Interventionists like me and my hero
Lloyd Pye, anchor our search for origins on
evidence rather than faith, on logic rather
than magic. We don’t think that God did it,
or that life spontaneously generated.

For us, evidence and logic point to the same
“outside intervention” Intelligent Designers
see. However, where they feel the only outside
source of intervention must be God (whom they
are careful to not mention by name), we suggest
another, bolder explanation: “They did it!”

Who are “They”? The currently favored term is
Aliens—non-human, non-Earth-based entities.
With Lloyd Pye's permission to cliff most
of his material, I will try to make a valid
point... That we, as a species are in
fact an oddball of mother nature.

The sad truth is that in every field of science,
Young Turks have to serve their leaders when
those leaders are the oldest, crustiest, and most
conservative members of the field. Then, when
those old “defenders of the faith” die out, what
were once Young Turks take over for them and
are forced to defend the same bankrupt faith.

Now, what about the origin of life? When did it
occur? How did it occur? The mainstream gives
two options and rejects a third:

(1) They accept as a possibility Undirected Panspermia.
This is the idea that life “drifts” across space carried
on asteroids or meteors that crashed into Earth.

(2) They support the idea that life originates by
Spontaneous Generation. This idea is that life
was created by sheer chance when a lightning
bolt struck a “warm pond” (a term coined by
Charles Darwin) filled with what came to be
called “primordial soup,” a form of witches’
brew containing the “building blocks” of life.

Experts insist that somehow, someway, those
original molecules managed to spontaneously
reassemble into ever more complex molecules
that somehow, someway, formed themselves
into the single cells of the earliest life forms.

The fact that spontaneous self-assembly into
complex molecules does not happen now, nor
can it be forced to happen in coherent patterns
in the most sophisticated laboratories on Earth,
should be an indication that this theory, like the
gravity-based one of cosmologists, needs work.
British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle summed up
the problem neatly when he said the likelihood
of a lightning bolt striking water to assemble
simple molecules into a life form was equal to
the likelihood of a tornado sweeping through a
junkyard and correctly assembling a jetliner.

The third option, which the mainstream rejects,
is Directed Panspermia,
which is similar to
undirected Panspermia, except that the first life
forms were guided here by higher intelligence.
Thus, the mainstream hangs its hat on a miracle
worthy of God when a lightning bolt struck the
“primordial soup” to forge basic molecules into
simple life—or on a similarly unlikely miracle
that simple life forms came here on meteors.
The lightning-bolt-hits-primordial-soup theory
is still taught around the world, but not because
mainstream scientists regard it seriously. They
know as well as anyone how absurd it sounds.

Unfortunately, they have no choice but to fake
conviction about it because they have no other
theory to take its place. Some few scientists do
admit they have no plausible idea, but most of
them insist on riding the same old lame horse.
Like the equations of the cosmologists, which
required “miracles” to make sense, the same is
true for biologists. The same kinds of miracles
are fudge-factored in to explain life, when they
have answers that are as easy to grasp as the
difference between gravity and electricity.

In the same way cosmologists stick with the
mistake of gravity, biology’s mistake, the core
of its ossified dogma, is that every aspect of life
on Earth must be accounted for in a “natural”
manner, in strictly terrestrial terms. To explain
life by using “outside” factors is unacceptable,
so alternate ideas are automatically discounted.

Its like the "Guilty until proven Innocent" of science.

Despite automatic rejection, alternative ideas
for the origin of life make a much stronger case
than biological dogma. Such ideas also hew far
more closely to the actual facts of life than do
the fantasies created by imaginative scientists.
Life did not start by accident when lightning
struck a warm pond of primordial soup. Its start
was so unlikely, experts can’t begin to explain
it rationally, so rather than try, they obscure it.

What Happened At 2.0 BYA?
As if on cue, with oxygen present after the end
of the first Snowball Earth, a new form of life
appeared to live alongside the prokaryotes—the
eukaryotes. To open minds, this could suggest
that the Intragalactic Terraformers were also
Life-Managers, or Overseers, or Manipulators.

I use the term “Terraformers” as others use
"aliens,” which produces negative connotations
in most media. “Terraformers” is more abstract
and benign. Also, more than one kind can exist.
If they are real, and if they did in fact develop
life and/or humans on Earth, then who are they?
And who created them? This leads to an endless
hall of mirrors echoing the same impossible-to answer
question: Who are their creators???

This brings up what is known as First Cause,
the starting place for all of everything—of life
and existence itself. No human actually knows
anything about it, and we probably never will.
I don’t know, religion doesn’t, and scientists
certainly don’t. Yet those institutions are forced
by their intense rivalry for hearts and minds to
pretend that they actually do know the answer.
Don’t believe either side. Religion and science
stand eyeball-to-eyeball and are too frightened
to blink, much less acknowledge any doubts or
weaknesses in their propaganda. But, luckily, I
don’t have those restrictions. I can busy myself
trying to discover what is actually knowable.

As with the prokaryotes, many kinds of the new
eukaryotes arrived suddenly, and exactly when
their much larger, vastly more complex singlecell
bodies were capable of thriving in the new
environment created by prokaryote metabolism.
Biologists insist this is how classic Darwinian
evolution works: when an environment presents
an open niche, Nature will fill it. Unfortunately
for them, evolution also requires “precursors,”
forms of life that provide a base upon which to
branch off a new form to fill an empty niche.
Prokaryotes are many things, but they can’t be
precursors for eukaryotes. A staggering number
of physical and biological differences between
them make a direct Darwinian “descent with
modification” impossible.

It couldn’t happen, especially not “overnight,”
which is seemingly how fast they arrived.
Yet another miracle!
Because direct descent can’t be used, our
everimaginative “experts” came up with a
flight of fancy equal to anything the
cosmologists ever concocted to “explain”
gravity’s weaknesses.

They suggest eukaryotes must have originated
when larger prokaryotes became "cannibalistic"
and consumed smaller ones, turning those into
various functioning parts within their bodies,
including the crucial, essential mitochondria.
Is that theory likely? Not at all, not even in the
ballpark. Understand that a long list of complex
differences exists between the prokaryotes and
eukaryotes. Size is the most obvious one, but an
amazing array of metabolic advances (including
an encapsulated nucleus) appeared with them.

This idea is wild speculation, but many strident
people with a “Ph.D.” after their names insist it
had to occur, and they are not shy about calling
on “magic” and “miracles” to make their story
plausible. It’s not quite the same as “God did it
all!” but it does seem to come dubiously close.

However the eukaryotes appeared, though, they
were a huge leap forward from the prokaryotes.

End: "Part one"

START: "Part Two"

What Followed The Eukaryotes?


Indestructible anaerobic bacteria (prokaryotes)
appeared on the seething proto-Earth as soon as
conceivably possible to start transforming the
biosphere into something more habitable.
Similarly, eukaryotes appeared precisely at the
end of 300 million years of Huronian Snowball
Earth, during which the planet’s entire surface
was blanketed by ice to a mile or more thick!
Thus, the appearance of the eukaryotes seems
timed with astounding good fortune—literally
another miracle!—since they arrived precisely
when they were capable of thriving on Earth.

Imagine a simple chart with stages showing the
amount of oxygen on Earth since prokaryotes
arrived to begin creating it. Stage 1 shows the
1.4 billion years prokaryotes needed to oxidize
the free iron while the Earth’s surface cooled.
Stage 2 had two parts. The first started at 2.4
bya, after the free iron was oxidized into rust
and the GOE pumped oxygen into the air to
react with methane to create the Huronian
Snowball Earth. That ended at 2.1 bya.
The second half of Stage 2 saw arrival of the
huge new eukaryotes, which started producing
more oxygen than ever before. It ended at 1.85
bya, when prokaryotes and eukaryotes seemed
to stabilize in their environments and thrived.
Stage 3 saw oxygen created at a steady rate to
do another job as crucial as oxidizing free iron.
After the 1.4 billion years needed to do that in
Stage 1, another billion years—1.8 to .8 bya—
saw oxygen from prokaryotes and eukaryotes
build an Ozone Layer to shield the land and
near surface of the sea below the atmosphere.
Complex life cannot exist without that shield. It
absorbs nearly all of the Sun’s ultraviolet light,
which is deadly harmful to most living species.
Unless free iron is oxidized and an ozone layer
is established, no protoplanet can ever support
complex higher life forms. Another miracle!

Stage 4 extends from .8 bya to .6 bya, and that
is the Cryogenian Period, a series of what is
now considered to be three separate Snowball
Earth episodes, but which may have been one
extended 200 million-year-long episode, like
the 300 million-year-long Huronian Glaciation.
In Stage 4, oxygen built up under the insulation
created by the ozone layer, and with increased
oxygen came the next huge step forward in the
history of life. Like the bacteria, these creatures
appeared at the ideal time, precisely when the
environment could support advanced bodies.
Stage 5 began at 600 mya and continues to this
day. The large upward spike in the amount of
oxygen was during the Age of Dinosaurs, when
enormous beasts prowled the earth and equally
enormous trees and plants covered the land.
This, however, leapfrogs our story. Let’s return
to the next forms of life to join the prokaryotes
and eukaryotes. Around 600 mya they suddenly
appeared in the planet’s waters and flourished.
They were the Earth’s first complex, multicelled
organisms—the Ediacaran Biota.

Exactly like prokaryotes and eukaryotes before
them, the ediacarans appeared “overnight” in
the fossil record in a wide range of varieties.
Just as the eukaryotes followed a global freeze,
ediacarans appeared at the end of another—the
Cryogenian period, which was the 200 million
years (800 mya to 600 mya) that saw either one
extended Snowball Earth, or a series of three.
Also as with both prokaryotes and eukaryotes,
the ediacarans appeared at exactly the optimum
time for them to do so! Yet another “miracle”!
Even more miraculous is that to this day no
scientists can say with certainty exactly what
ediacarans were or how they lived. They were
morphologically distinct from all the prior and
later forms, making them utterly unique in the
history of life on Earth—a lingering mystery.
Plants…or animals? Nobody knows. They had
a variety of shapes—discs, tubes, fronds, bags,
even quilts—but did they have mouths? Don’t
know. Any digestion? Don’t know. Were they
mobile or stationary? Don’t know. There are
imaginative interpretations of how they might
have looked, but all of those are guesswork.
The key to Ediacaran biota is that in some still
unknown manner they seem to pave the way for
much more complex animals with skeletons—
both internal and external—in the phase of life
that followed their enigmatic 50 million year
reign as the highest forms of life on Earth.
*****
If we readily challenge conventions, we might
accept Intragalactic Terraformers made all this
happen as it did—well coordinated and on time.
Yet, time is big a problem. How could they take
such an incredibly long view of this project?
How could they initiate a process that requires
billions of years to complete? The answer has
to be “experience,” which means they have no
concept of time as we humans understand it.
If indeed they were out and about, seeding life
throughout the galaxy, they had to know what
they were doing, so projects requiring billions
of years would have to be par for their course.

Naturally, mainstream science assures us this
scenario could not possibly have happened, but
is that opinion based on facts or ingrained bias?

Regardless of how and why the reign of the
ediacarans ended, we know what came next. It
was without doubt the most bizarre event in the
history of life on Earth—from then until now.
It came with no fanfare, no end of a glaciation,
no global catastrophe that left its impact in the
fossil record. As with the end of the Ediacaran
cycle, the next dominant phase of life on Earth,
it is said, “Seems to have just . . . happened.”
It is known as the Cambrian Explosion, so
called because it was a literal explosion of life
forms that replaced the multi-cellular, multiformed,
inexplicable ediacarans with a broad
range of astonishingly sophisticated creatures.
These are the first “advanced” animals, the first
bilaterians, which had left and right sides to go
along with the tops and bottoms of the radially
symmetrical ediacarans. (Very few of the early
bilaterians survive today, the most familiar of
them probably the uniquely shelled Nautilus).
We’re talking endoskeletons and exoskeletons;
mouths, digestive tracts, and anuses; very large
to very small species; predators and prey; and
reproduction by male/female sexual relations.
It was a bonanza of new species with enormous
complexity. In fact, most animal phyla known
today appeared during the Cambrian explosion.
This inexplicable eruption of life was a giant
leap toward the myriad of forms on Earth now,
and once again the whole of it came seemingly
overnight, seemingly “out of nowhere” . . . a
miracle so miraculous, we need a special word
for it . . . a word with Biblical heft and scale:

Supercalifragilisticexpealidocious!

Naturally, mainstreamers struggle valiantly to
account for this stubbornly inexplicable event
in terms that suit the dogma that only “natural”
explanations are acceptable for consideration.
They point out that if the Cambrian explosion
required a million years to complete, that is not
unduly rapid.

Okay, let’s do some quick math:

Prokaryotes appeared between 4.0 and 3.5 bya.
Let’s say 3.75 bya. The Cambrian began at 550
mya. 3.75 bya minus 550 mya equals 3.2 billion
years with single-celled bacteria and a bit with
ediacarans, and then boom! Most animal phyla!
Some say the Cambrian explosion occurred in
only a few thousand years. Other insist it lasted
a million or more. Compared to the 3.2 billion
years that came before it, even a million years
is .0003%! In relative terms, it’s an eye blink!
Thus, scientists are left with only verbal fast
shuffles and befuddling sleights of mind as they
explain a phenomenon that in “natural,” purely
Darwinian terms is as humbug as humbug gets.
Mainstreamers are not entirely blind to facts,
but they lack other options. Like cosmologists,
they must defend an ossified dogma that paints
them into a corner where the truth doesn’t fit.

Once again, it seems appropriate to suggest that
Intragalactic Terraformers, or entities like them,
were making Earth “livable” virtually from Day
One, while taking an exceptionally long view of
the project from its inception until right now.
Let us recall that the primitive life forms were
forged in different crucibles. Prokaryotes came
to Earth during an asteroid bombardment. Both
eukaryotes and ediacarans followed intervals of
profound freeze—the Snowball Earth episodes.
Next came the Cambrian biota, which appeared
with no noticeable stress on the planet. It seems
as if their time had simply arrived, and when it
did, whoever or whatever was in charge of the
terraforming decided to bring them on board so
they could replace the expendable ediacarans.
Aside from the indestructible prokaryotes and
eukaryotes, complex life forms live essentially
unchanged until extinction events destroy many
species, which are then replaced. Now we will
focus on how extinctions shaped our planet.
Five major and several minor extinction events
have occurred during the 500 million years of
advanced life on Earth.

In each case, the era ends with the extinction
event bearing its name, then a new era begins.

1) Ordovician — 443 million years ago
2) Devonian — 354 mya, 89 million years later
3) Permian — 248 mya, 106 million years later
4) Triassic — 206 mya, 42 million years later
5) Cretaceous—65 mya, 141 million years later

Whether major or minor, each extinction opens
up ecological niches that within a few thousand
years invariably contain brand new life forms,
creatures not seen before in the fossil record.
As always, newbies seem to magically appear,
seemingly overnight, which would be accepted
as fact if science could afford to consider facts.

During each extinction event, when hundreds or
thousands of species are wiped out, others find
ways to survive and move into the next era. The
environment would be transformed by such an
event, sometimes radically, but some of the old
species could still survive in it, so they would.
Naturally, the new species that appeared could
survive in the changed environment, whatever
that might be. Imagine Terraformers analyzing
each extinction event, waiting for equilibrium
to establish, deciding which new species could
survive in the new environment, then making
certain exactly such creatures were delivered.

Once again, Intervention Theory provides the
most logical explanation for what occurs in the
aftermath of each extinction. Equally so, no one
can blame scientists for doing what they can to
disdain and disparage radical ideas, especially
when the ideas make them seem close-minded
and even dim-witted. They are not dim-witted.
They simply have an ossified dogma to uphold,
and they must defend it without compunction.

How Does Science Defend Its Position?

Mainstream scientists know that time after time
the history of life on Earth shows sudden, “outof-
the-blue” appearances followed by extended
periods of stasis, which is “staying the same.”
Stasis is punctuated by extinction events, which
some species will survive intact, while others
disappear and new species seemingly designed
as substitutes materialize to take their places.

Naturally, mainstreamers insist this is proof of
evolution where in each case random mutations
are “selected” by environmental pressures that
result in the modification of a current species.
In an image I seen, eight species of Hawaiian
honeycreepers show the same kind of genetic
radiation that Darwin recognized in finches on
the Galapagos Islands. They all remain a twig
off the branch of the original species of bird,
altering the necessary parts of their bodies to
accommodate specific environmental niches.
Eventually, modifications will accumulate in a
species until it is altered enough to be no longer
recognizable as a member of the initial species
that spawned it. It has then become a new subspecies
by virtue of those “natural” mutations.

This is microevolution, or “evolution in parts,”
a common and well-recorded phenomenon. It
was first noticed by Darwin, who extrapolated
the idea that it could lead to macroevolution, a
gradual change of one species into a distinctly
different species, by means similar to microevolution,
but over much longer time frames.

Macroevolution has never been recorded. No
honeycreepers ever turned into finches, or viceversa.
Darwinists have looked for evidence of it
since 1859, when Charles Darwin wrote in his
landmark Origin of Species that intermediate
forms had to be found, or his theory should be
abandoned. For 153 years, his followers have
diligently sought those ghosts of species past.

Another serious problem with evolution is that
not every species will gradually morph into any
other form by accumulating positive mutations
under the influence of environmental pressures.

The Coelacanth fish ranged worldwide 200
mya (fossil record). Now it is confined to the
Indian Ocean (very diverse). Thus, it endured
tremendous pressures to speciate, but did not.

An interesting double-edged sword wielded by
Darwinists is their claim that evolution moves
at a grindingly slow pace. As we have noted in
considerable detail, this renders evolution null
and void as an explanation for the “overnight”
appearances of Earth’s earliest life forms. This
is an awkward yoke around Darwinist necks.

On the other hand, the glacial pace of change
by random mutation is the most critical part of
the “proof” Darwinists promote to establish the
illusion that macroevolution actually functions.
Here is the scenario as they insist it plays out:
Genetic mutations occur randomly among all
members of a species. Occasionally, one of
those mutations confers some advantage for
better chances of survival. Those individuals
are “fitter” than their peers, so they have the
capacity, and maybe an opportunity, to pass
those “better” mutations into their gene pool.
Now comes the “magic” part. It turns out that
those macroevolutionary changes in a species’
gene pool occur so incredibly slowly, over tens
to hundreds of thousands of years, there is no
way to actually confirm them in real time.
“Oops! Sorry! Wish we could oblige you with
some solid evidence, but that’s impossible. It
happens too slowly. You just have to take our
word for it because we’re experts and you can
trust what we say.” Or words to that effect….

But can we trust them? No, not really. We all
have seen a diagram of the evolution of horses,
which the mainstream uses to “prove” horses
macroevolved from primitive to modern.
Despite how widely known and accepted these
images are, as far back as the 1940s a father of
evolutionary science, George G. Simpson, said:
“The uniform (and) continuous transformation
of Hyracotherium into Equus, so dear to the
hearts of generations of textbook writers, (has)
never happened in nature.” And he was right.
In the book Icons of Evolution by Intelligent
Designer, Jonathan Wells
, he shows how that
widely-preached example—and nine more of
the most avidly supported mainstream “proofs”
of evolution—are complete and utter frauds.

Why is that? Why can’t scientists be trusted to
live up to their own hype? To play fair with the
facts, and to go wherever those facts lead them?
Because they are saddled with a wide range of
dogmas passed down from prior generations.
To prop up those dogmas, especially the most
vulnerable of them (evolution), science has no
choice but to establish and maintain an aura of
unquestioned authority. They insist everything
had to evolve into everything else, so they bend
and twist facts and figures in any way necessary
to make that dogma convincing beyond doubt.
I and other Interventionists do doubt, sincerely
and profoundly. We take to heart the words of
Don Marquis: “When people think you make
them think, they will like you; but when you
really make them think, they will hate you.”
With the ease of access to information via the
internet, there is little excuse any more for not
actually thinking, and fact checking, whatever
science proclaims as their “received wisdom.”

End: "Part Two"

I will continue this investigation once again.

At a later time...

In the meantime it all boils down to....

FUCK CONSENSUS REALITY.



Any one of you can do this yourself.
Translate the 4th tablet of the Sumerian
Creation Epic...The Enuma E'lish.

You will find that the people of Sumeria,
plausibly answer 6 of the worlds toughest
astronomical, and geological questions!

Scientists of all trades do not genuinely know
why our planet looks so much different, and
has tectonic plates unlike the others.

They do not know where the asteroid belt came from,
nor do they know why strange little Pluto
is around 20 degrees off our stellar ecliptic.

First. Earth was dubbed "Tiamat" in the epic.
They then say Nibiru (who is circling the sun
clockwise on a 3600 year orbit) crashed into Tiamat.
Tiamat cracked like an eggshell. This answers 4 of
the questions I believe. With Pluto having
been illustrated by the Sumerians to be
a moon of Saturn, before Nibiru pulled it away.

They also say that during the collision,
in the "mingling of their waters" Nibiru
passed life to Tiamat. (life being early bacterium)

They also say when looking down from the heavens
unto Uranus and Neptune, they seem like "blue
green watery twins"... how did they know that?

Among other things...

(Yeah, I can write about 10 pages of red flags
the people of Sumeria bring to the table,
but that's another thread in entirety.)

People. If you believe in Bigfoot... you believe in the Intervention theory.

There exists here a case in point here if
you haven't found it already.

We are genetically engineered. Proof?

We are off of the flow chart to the natural scheme
of life on this planet. Proof?

If we "evolved" from four types of hominids...

and if there are are 4 types of bigfoot on the earth?

Why Can’t Hunters Find Them?

The Panda’s story is a perfect comparison with
hominoids because they live in the same kind of
habitat (montane forest) and terrain (mountains)
as bigfoot/sasquatch and the almas/kaptar types,
but their mountains are covered with bamboo.
Written references to hominoids go back for
hundreds of years, and such mentions are found
in nearly every country. But the mainstream of
each century has dismissed them as useless
prattle. The same was once true for Pandas.

Ancient Chinese manuscripts often mentioned a
creature known to them as a Bei-Shung, which
meant white-bear. They were usually described
precisely as they turned out to be: black-andwhite
bears living in the rugged mountains of
Sichuan, eating nothing but bamboo shoots.
Every Western authority “knew” bears were
omnivores, so the bamboo shoots were laughed
off. Also, they “knew” bears could be black or
brown or white, but surely not the black-andwhite
coloring described by Chinese natives.

Most importantly, no Western authority had
ever braved the rigors of traveling to China to
study the matter, so they felt amply qualified to
pronounce the Panda an amusing local legend.
Finally, after 2,000 years of unaccepted reports,
in 1869 a French missionary/naturalist named
Father Armand David made his way to Sichuan
Province. Like most naturalists, he knew of the
legendary Bei-Shung, and he believed “official”
assurances that duotoned, bamboo-eating bears
were a highly embellished Chinese fable.
Ultimately, Father David saw the full skin of
one hung on a wall in a village elder’s home!

Finding out where it came from, he hurried to
the Bei-Shung’s reported habitat, a bamboo
forest high in a forbidding mountain range.
Upon arrival, he tried to hire local hunters to
bring him a living specimen. The locals were
hesitant, saying the Bei-Shung lived in very
rugged terrain and were extremely difficult to
find and kill, much less to try to capture one.
Father David took their reluctance as a ploy to
extract more money from him, so he offered a
handsome bonus. Chinese were loathe to give
offense, so these agreed to take a crack at it.
In one of history’s great quirks of fate, after
only twelve days the Chinese hunters returned
with a living Bei-Shung they insisted had been
secured only by astounding good fortune.

Their protestations seemed unlikely, but Father
David didn’t care if they were embellishing the
difficulty of their task. He knew their captive
would make history worldwide, so he didn’t
concern himself with the circumstances of its
capture or the high price he had paid for it.
For as great as Father David’s good fortune was
with the capture, his luck soured in transporting
his prize back to France. After a few days on a
ship, the wild Bei-Shung became so agitated
that it began ramming itself relentlessly against
the cage bars, clearly intent on breaking free of
captivity or dying in the effort to escape.
For humanitarian and moral reasons, Father
David had no choice but to euthanize it.

Having to kill his precious prize was a terrible
blow to Father David, who found solace knowing he
could still achieve his main goal of proving
beyond doubt that the Bei-Shungs did exist.
If he could do that much by himself, he knew,
well-equipped field teams would follow with
sufficient methods of extracting the living Bei-
Shungs they would no doubt easily capture.
He sent his “legend’s” preserved remains to a
Paris Museum, creating a worldwide sensation.
Presaging what will probably happen after the
first hominoid is officially presented in our own
time, the world’s foremost scientific institutions
in 1870 entered into a race to decide who would
put the first living Bei-Shung on display.

They sent legions of topnotch experts—hunters,
trappers, and scientists—swarming through the
mountainous regions of Sichuan, a region the
size of Arizona or Italy. All waited anxiously to
see who would be the first to bring one in….
And they waited . . . and waited. By 1900—31
years since Father David’s find—all museums
that financed expeditions had long since given
up. By 1910, western media had renamed the
Bei-Shungs Giant Pandas, and scientists had
shoved them back into the mists of “legend.”

Despite Father David’s stuffed specimen being
as real as it ever was, 41 years without so much
as a follow-up sighting convinced most experts
the panda was now extinct. Why? Because the
men who had searched for it were all highly
experienced woodsmen and skilled trappers.
Cavorting around bamboo forests in Sichuan’s
mountains looking for phantom pandas became
a frontier jaunt for daring sportsmen with time
and money to burn, like U. S. President Teddy
Roosevelt’s two sons, Teddy, Jr., and Kermit.
In 1929, exactly 60 years after Father David’s
misadventure, Teddy spied a panda in a tree
and shot it, sending a bullet through that poor
animal to puncture innumerable scientific egos,
and giving it an iconic name—Teddy’s bear.

Guys... It took a whole generation of time
to find a bear that is dumber than a box of rocks
eating bamboo..

Again, whats the most annoying question
to Interventionists? "If "Bigfoot" exists, then
why don't they have bones and fossils!?
Why haven't some hunters gone out and killed any?


#1. Did some of you know that there is not
ONE FOSSILIZED BONE OF A CHIMPANZEE? It is almost
impossible to manifest a fossil in such a dense
active area of land with such high diversity and heat.

#2 OK! lets go find a Bigfoot! Lets start by
foot-surveying 40% of the "uninhabited land" we
do not populate, then lets finally conduct a
thorough search through the vast expanse of the
lower montane areas to try to find a nocturnal
freak of nature, that is no doubt bigger,
faster, stronger, and believe me... Smarter
(in their element) than we are...

Again, We couldn't find a godforsaken bear eating
bamboo for nearly 100 years, before we finally
found one, they were considered mythological creatures.

With case in point, I will continue this thread tomorrow. I will first revise and proofread what I have already posted, then I will move on to the next phase. Thats if your interested of course.

Last Edited by Heretic_333 on 05/26/2012 10:17 PM
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two one stars in minutes.

means they didn't read.
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Ha Ha. Whoever gave me the "you are being deceived" thumbs down..

Absurd.

Who am I being deceived by when I do my own research?

I am pointing out deception. It is what poisons this species with amnesia.
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Heterosexual pride!

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Wow. I am blown away by your detailed accounts.
Excellent thread. I look forward to more.
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Wow. I am blown away by your detailed accounts.
Excellent thread. I look forward to more.
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Thanks bro! Give it a BUMP
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If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie?

I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the spill. My tolerances were not overlooked.

"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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Lie to me?
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Lie to me?
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I'm sorry?
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"Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The mist of Odin sweeps it all."
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Good luck with that wall of words. Have another one-star, OP.

You really are full of shit.
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Good luck with that wall of words. Have another one-star, OP.

You really are full of shit.
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awww =[
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Fuck Consensus Reality. I DO NOT CONSENT.
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Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
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In case you wondered how to pronounce it.


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Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
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In case you wondered how to pronounce it.



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WOW it has 10 second youtube video thats awesome.
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Whoa... long one Heretic!

I will check the LOC on it and read when I have more time.

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Hey Heretic... link?

I am getting a fairly high LOC on post. Of course Ia m picking up the quotes as well. Got a link or web site?
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Whoa... long one Heretic!

I will check the LOC on it and rad when I have more time.
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yea sorry, part two is integrated into part one.

so its twice the size! Oh and whats a rad?
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Whoa... long one Heretic!

I will check the LOC on it and rad when I have more time.
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yea sorry, part two is integrated into part one.

so its twice the size! Oh and whats a rad?
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oppsie... "read" - I fixed it! ;)
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Hey Heretic... link?

I am getting a fairly high LOC on post. Of course Ia m picking up the quotes as well. Got a link or web site?
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Well alot of it is all me baby!

and some are quotes and some are material from [link to lloydpye.com]
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Hey Heretic... link?

I am getting a fairly high LOC on post. Of course Ia m picking up the quotes as well. Got a link or web site?
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Well alot of it is all me baby!

and some are quotes and some are material from [link to lloydpye.com]
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Lloyd Pye... Isn't that the skull guy?

Well, overall, I think you tapped into higher LOC with your post. It is up there in LOC. Good Job. I didn't read through it all. It is best if I don't for LOC testing anyway. That way I don't get my beliefs mixed in.
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Hey Heretic... link?

I am getting a fairly high LOC on post. Of course Ia m picking up the quotes as well. Got a link or web site?
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Well alot of it is all me baby!

and some are quotes and some are material from [link to lloydpye.com]
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Lloyd Pye... Isn't that the skull guy?

Well, overall, I think you tapped into higher LOC with your post. It is up there in LOC. Good Job. I didn't read through it all. It is best if I don't for LOC testing anyway. That way I don't get my beliefs mixed in.
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Yup starchild skull. DNA testing showed it to be a different species and it's only 900 years old. The book over it was pretty fun to read. [link to www.starchildproject.com]
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Hey Heretic... link?

I am getting a fairly high LOC on post. Of course Ia m picking up the quotes as well. Got a link or web site?
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Well alot of it is all me baby!

and some are quotes and some are material from [link to lloydpye.com]
 Quoting: Heretic_333


Lloyd Pye... Isn't that the skull guy?

Well, overall, I think you tapped into higher LOC with your post. It is up there in LOC. Good Job. I didn't read through it all. It is best if I don't for LOC testing anyway. That way I don't get my beliefs mixed in.
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Yup starchild skull. DNA testing showed it to be a different species and it's only 900 years old. The book over it was pretty fun to read. [link to www.starchildproject.com]
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I catch up with his videos every now and then.

Thanks Hon...
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Aliens = Gay.

Solar System = Gay

Billions of Gallaxies = Gay

Earth is Flat. Heavens including Sun and Moon rotate around us. This is not Star Trek people. It's only 4000 miles up.
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Fabulous post Heretic!!

I have all this info spread over dozens of files too - nice to see it all in one place, put together in such a coherent manner :)

Yay for the researchers!
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Let me explain the truth in 5 words that the OP failed to explain in 2000 words.

We live in a Matrix !!!!
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