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The monsters wakes up ! Katla Hekla Iceland Dead Zone and rift as uniform system ! A lot of others worldwide !

 
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really the most interesting topic about volcanoes today. tcool2his is not a soap opera with El Hierro, enthusiastically discussed at volkanokafe
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and what is really extremely useful is that now volcanologists set there gas analyzer :
the most important feature of Hekla eruptions is that they start almost immediately after a very short series of increasing volcanotectonic activity "without warning "(not the case as for many other volcanoes!). period of this series before the sudden explosive eruption
may be just a few hours or not at all.
that is why it is so important gas analyzer at the top :
fixing a sharp change in the composition of gases evolved give at least some chance of time to warn residents and implement evacuation.
but for tourists walking at that time on Hekla slopes almost no chances to avoid death: as I understand mobile phones around Hekla mostly inaccessible, and warn them no one has time. i would't walk there now huffy
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and again Hekla ten minutes ago! bump
even more clos to centre of system then day before yesterday (close to GFZ cam tounge)!
Date Time Latitude Longitude Depth Magnitude Quality Location
Saturday
23.03.2013 18:48:11 64.014 -19.596 11.8 km 0.8 70.51 4.3 km NE of Hekla
map [link to en.vedur.is]
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watch close GFZ cam
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(while it still online tounge )
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Irpsit says:

March 23, 2013 at 19:47


And I was going to post the following: “It seems Hekla is having an earthquake about every 3 days. Since last earthquake it is about time to see another earthquake, probably happening tomorrow”

And the earthquake just happened!

I think there are major changes precursor to an eruption in Hekla. I think there is a high change of Hekla erupting within the next days. Now I am even more confident that it might erupt.

So today we had a 1.4 deep earthquake, following a major strain event at Hekla.

The sequence of events should be this:
- earthquakes like this one, a few of them, starting about 1-2 hours before the eruption
- then, a major strain event
- then, larger earthquakes and tremor starts (this is 20min before the eruption)
- after that, the eruption starts with a major explosion and a ash cloud following it
- the ash column last 1 to a few days and then large lava fountains follow for several days to weeks
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is this smoke or clouds? [link to hraun.vedur.is]
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Irpsit says:

March 23, 2013 at 19:47


And I was going to post the following: “It seems Hekla is having an earthquake about every 3 days. Since last earthquake it is about time to see another earthquake, probably happening tomorrow”

And the earthquake just happened!

I think there are major changes precursor to an eruption in Hekla. I think there is a high change of Hekla erupting within the next days. Now I am even more confident that it might erupt.

So today we had a 1.4 deep earthquake, following a major strain event at Hekla.

The sequence of events should be this:
- earthquakes like this one, a few of them, starting about 1-2 hours before the eruption
- then, a major strain event
- then, larger earthquakes and tremor starts (this is 20min before the eruption)
- after that, the eruption starts with a major explosion and a ash cloud following it
- the ash column last 1 to a few days and then large lava fountains follow for several days to weeks
[link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


a lot possible mistakes (which however is quite excusable for amateur observes as in volkanocafe cool2):

firstly, eqs "like this one" will last a long time (a month - six weeks) at intervals of a day or two, then followed a sharp increase in magnitude and only after that, "1-2 hour " later (more likely 6-8 hours) will eruptive phase.
then, " major strain event" and eruptive phase will start simultaneously, tremor before will almost absent (or extremely short time).
finally, not necessarily be the beginning of an explosive nature, the first phase may be numerous fissure eruptions of lava and then blasts the main crater and ash emissions tounge
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is this smoke or clouds? [link to hraun.vedur.is]
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too dark to answer)
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is this smoke or clouds? [link to hraun.vedur.is]
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too dark to answer)
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but here that's very similar to the vapor
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and about Etna so far behind conversations about hekla and El Hierro all forgotten. this is vain, it seems it can tonight to arrange a new fireworks)
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Re: The monsters wakes up ! Katla Hekla Iceland Dead Zone and rift as uniform system ! A lot of others worldwide !
Irpsit says:

March 23, 2013 at 19:47


And I was going to post the following: “It seems Hekla is having an earthquake about every 3 days. Since last earthquake it is about time to see another earthquake, probably happening tomorrow”

And the earthquake just happened!

I think there are major changes precursor to an eruption in Hekla. I think there is a high change of Hekla erupting within the next days. Now I am even more confident that it might erupt.

So today we had a 1.4 deep earthquake, following a major strain event at Hekla.

The sequence of events should be this:
- earthquakes like this one, a few of them, starting about 1-2 hours before the eruption
- then, a major strain event
- then, larger earthquakes and tremor starts (this is 20min before the eruption)
- after that, the eruption starts with a major explosion and a ash cloud following it
- the ash column last 1 to a few days and then large lava fountains follow for several days to weeks
[link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


a lot possible mistakes (which however is quite excusable for amateur observes as in volkanocafe cool2):

firstly, eqs "like this one" will last a long time (a month - six weeks) at intervals of a day or two, then followed a sharp increase in magnitude and only after that, "1-2 hour " later (more likely 6-8 hours) will eruptive phase.
then, " major strain event" and eruptive phase will start simultaneously, tremor before will almost absent (or extremely short time).
finally, not necessarily be the beginning of an explosive nature, the first phase may be numerous fissure eruptions of lava and then blasts the main crater and ash emissions tounge
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you seem to be a volcanologist?

pleasure to have you on the thread if you are. thumbs
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Re: The monsters wakes up ! Katla Hekla Iceland Dead Zone and rift as uniform system ! A lot of others worldwide !
Irpsit says:

March 23, 2013 at 19:47


And I was going to post the following: “It seems Hekla is having an earthquake about every 3 days. Since last earthquake it is about time to see another earthquake, probably happening tomorrow”

And the earthquake just happened!

I think there are major changes precursor to an eruption in Hekla. I think there is a high change of Hekla erupting within the next days. Now I am even more confident that it might erupt.

So today we had a 1.4 deep earthquake, following a major strain event at Hekla.

The sequence of events should be this:
- earthquakes like this one, a few of them, starting about 1-2 hours before the eruption
- then, a major strain event
- then, larger earthquakes and tremor starts (this is 20min before the eruption)
- after that, the eruption starts with a major explosion and a ash cloud following it
- the ash column last 1 to a few days and then large lava fountains follow for several days to weeks
[link to volcanocafe.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


a lot possible mistakes (which however is quite excusable for amateur observes as in volkanocafe cool2):

firstly, eqs "like this one" will last a long time (a month - six weeks) at intervals of a day or two, then followed a sharp increase in magnitude and only after that, "1-2 hour " later (more likely 6-8 hours) will eruptive phase.
then, " major strain event" and eruptive phase will start simultaneously, tremor before will almost absent (or extremely short time).
finally, not necessarily be the beginning of an explosive nature, the first phase may be numerous fissure eruptions of lava and then blasts the main crater and ash emissions tounge
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you seem to be a volcanologist?

pleasure to have you on the thread if you are. thumbs
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and if you're not. thumbs chuckle
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Inge B. says:

March 24, 2013 at 15:34


Katla is not so quiet as it may seem at the moment. There was a glacier run in the river going south of the Mýrdalsjökull called Jökulsá á Solheimasandi 2 days ago during which water height rose by 5,5 m in 1 hour. (IMO, Vatnafar, 22.3.2013). This is though not very unusual, because a high temperature area discharges into this river from time to time.
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Jón Frímann says:

March 24, 2013 at 13:00


Please note that earthquake swarms start with an harmonic tremor pulse coming from El Hierro volcano. This means that magma is being injected at depth under heavy pressure. Currently there is an sill forming inside the volcano. If that sill is going to erupt there is no way to tell at the moment.

The ocean depth at the current location of the earthquake swarm is around 2 km to 2.5 km. So if there is an eruption it is not going to be observed on the surface on the ocean. Unless it reaches higher ground.

I am watching and writing about this on my blog as always.
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and if you're not. thumbs chuckle
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and even in this case: this discussion and volcanocafe "says" are at least absolutely equal to valid , say even more - often there is more reliable estimates (many times proven by practice) thumbs chuckle
(of course except cases where there purposely write nonsense or full OT to scare away readers chuckle )
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and about Etna so far behind conversations about hekla and El Hierro all forgotten. this is vain, it seems it can tonight to arrange a new fireworks)
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shocked

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Magnitude M 4.7
Region IONIAN SEA
Date time 2013-03-24 15:47:21.0 UTC
Location 37.77 N ; 16.52 E
Depth 20 km

Etna not far!
[link to static2.emsc.eu]
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and about Etna so far behind conversations about hekla and El Hierro all forgotten. this is vain, it seems it can tonight to arrange a new fireworks)
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shocked

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Magnitude M 4.7
Region IONIAN SEA
Date time 2013-03-24 15:47:21.0 UTC
Location 37.77 N ; 16.52 E
Depth 20 km

Etna not far!
[link to static2.emsc.eu]
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and about Etna so far behind conversations about hekla and El Hierro all forgotten. this is vain, it seems it can tonight to arrange a new fireworks)
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shocked

[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
Magnitude M 4.7
Region IONIAN SEA
Date time 2013-03-24 15:47:21.0 UTC
Location 37.77 N ; 16.52 E
Depth 20 km

Etna not far!
[link to static2.emsc.eu]
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just downgraded to 4.5 with depth 40 km
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March 24, 2013 at 18:05


Update on Avcan FB reporting possible detection of 3 gas vents by the Ramon Margalef
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March 24, 2013 at 18:05


Update on Avcan FB reporting possible detection of 3 gas vents by the Ramon Margalef
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as and before were very often, vc not quite reliable source of info:
translation not correct there - and distorted meaning of what AVCAN actually reported ohyeah

in reality "Ramon Margalef" reported
only previous and very raw data
which suggest that there may be something emissions, which in turn can be anywhere possible gas emission (somewhere around here actually ohyeah
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I think it's better to don't post updates here... you are much better than me. peace
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I think it's better to don't post updates here... you are much better than me. peace
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sorry, did not want anything to hurt you hf
i just like the accuracy and the opinions of professionals: to speculate as amateurs here we also know how, so that exactly same amateur speculations from another boards add little to the pile made by us)
and yet do not pay attention, it's all a game against boredom, no more. better go to sleep peace
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no point arguing

we're amateurs guessing at what is going on. let's keep it that way, with a few titbits from VC, Jon and others thrown in to juice up the ole doomfest for good measure!

rofl

difference with us here, is we big it up, fully expecting the kaboom, whilst the others play it down.

more fun here! chuckle
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I think it's better to don't post updates here... you are much better than me. peace
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sorry, did not want anything to hurt you hf
i just like the accuracy and the opinions of professionals: to speculate as amateurs here we also know how, so that exactly same amateur speculations from another boards add little to the pile made by us)
and yet do not pay attention, it's all a game against boredom, no more. better go to sleep peace
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but i'm not hurt, i really think you are much better than me... hf
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... i really think you are much better than me... hf
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it's not true, you're the best writer at GLP hf

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Magnitude 4.5 earthquake 12 km NW of Bam volcano, Papua New Guinea.

John Seach @johnseach 4 h
#Bagana volcano, Papua New Guinea. Ash 10,000 ft altitude extending 25 nautical miles east.
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imo it is very unlikely that in the next few months, Bob wakes up again. most likely the series of earthquakes over soon and then everything will be settled ....
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again confirmed:

"Scientists rule out a new volcanic erupt in El Hierro"
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[link to www.emsc-csem.org]
epicenters are scattered over a large area and constantly migrate (no explicit focus), now there has been a tendency to promote offshore. depth of almost all the 15 - 16 km and do not see the trend to rise, not much like the beginning of the eruption, at least in nearest time.

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add
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"The researchers are now seeking to find the source that supplies the magma in the newly discovered layer." cool2
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maybe this "lubricant" arrives? hiding (joke)
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but in every joke there is always part of joke cool2
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Claude Grandpey • an hour ago −
Most of the seismic events at El Hierro are still at depths whose average ranges between 12 and 16 km. This is the kind of seismicity that was observed during the previous seismic swarm several months ago. It probably corresponds with magma movements . As long as the situation goes on this way, the risk of an eruption is quite low.
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2013-03-25 15:03 UTC
- A few minutes ago we had the strongest earthquake from this crisis, a M4.1 at 16 km depth (same area out in the sea). The image below shows this earthquake on the seismogram and not a piece of art . Just before the 4.1 one, we had a M3.4 one, also at a depth of 16 km.
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- This is without any doubt one of the most powerful earthquake sessions since the start of the eruptive process at El Hierro. Readers will be surprised about the number of very powerful events when they are listed by IGN.
Luckily for El Hierro everything is happening out in the sea at a depth of +1500 meter. A volcano has however NO guarantee at all that the action will stay in that area. The same happened during the eruption in 2011 when the magma vent was located in a totally different area than the earthquake epicenters. This was however an exception.
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- This is without any doubt one of the most powerful earthquake sessions since the start of the eruptive process at El Hierro. Readers will be surprised about the number of very powerful events when they are listed by IGN.
Luckily for El Hierro everything is happening out in the sea at a depth of +1500 meter. A volcano has however NO guarantee at all that the action will stay in that area. The same happened during the eruption in 2011 when the magma vent was located in a totally different area than the earthquake epicenters. This was however an exception.
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Sam says:

March 25, 2013 at 16:22


While everyone is watching El Hierro… Small Transient at Hekla at 8.00am this morning.

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135 Responses to Renewed activity at El Hierro
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284 Responses
(almost all about El Hierro eqs
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569 Responses to Keeping a close eye on El Hierro
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total a little less than a 1000 "responses" only for one week shocked
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search on eqs
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Period (YYYY-MM-DD) 2013-03-18 2013-03-25
Depth (in kms) - all depths
Magnitude - all magnitudes
Region Name CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Results found : 325
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1000/325 = about 3 "responses" for each (even very small) earthquake near El Hierro chuckle

and then someone would dare to claim that what we are alarmists who are here regularly expect "Kaboom", and
not those fearmongers who chuckle

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