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Breaking - Scientist claims that all language is hypnotic

 
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I guess in that regard the human language is very limiting. It's like an artificial tunnel vision we've built for ourselves to make sense of the world around us. Like a bird, is not a bird. That's just what that sound sounds like spelt out in our english language. What is it really? An organism that flys, but even that is limiting.
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Boobs are more hypnotic and I can prove it:


If a hot girl is talking to you and her boobs are just like "there", do you hear anything she is actually saying?
“If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
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Gladly. Our words hold power, they are a vibration that emanates from our throat. In the end, a word is mearly a vibration. If our path of learning is based upon the ability to understand what these vibrations mean, then it stands to reason that all we know, all we have learned and gleaned, has been based on these vibrations, or words, that we have learned to identify the objects and things that surround us. Example. A bird is not a bird. A bird is a living organism that humans assigned a vibrational frequency to, as is we gave that object a particular vibrational sound, or word. Therefore it stands to reason that all human oryx woes stem from our understanding of these vibrations. Think about how particular words evoke people's emotions. Those emotions are manipulated by vibrations. Do you get it?
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So basically all of our grandiose ideas that we fight and die over boil down to the motion of our throats vibrating and releasing air as a sound, a sound that we associate with whatever we're dealing with. I'm sort of with you. But it feels more complex than that. What about everything that isn't said? For instance I live alone, so I don't speak out loud very often, only when I have to. There's so much that goes on in the minds of us humans that plays a role in what we do. There's no movement of the throat there, unless the language we hear in our head when we hear ourselves speak already has a power over us.
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Then we have conceptual metaphor. Ever wonder why we fall in love? Love is something that we fall into? Like a hole. Ever been in love...someting that you are in?

Abstract nouns are things/words that don't exist in reality yet in our language profram we treat them like real things ie. apples or ants.

We often conceptualise abstract things in metaphor

War is struggle
Love is a container
Communication is a container that is sent
Life is a journey
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How was Adolph using his words?
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Jeez - I wish I knew how to edit these posts, my typing is suffering from the time of day and the alcohol that brutally destroys my capabilities. Good night all - speak tomorrow if anyone is still interested.
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Jeez - I wish I knew how to edit these posts, my typing is suffering from the time of day and the alcohol that brutally destroys my capabilities. Good night all - speak tomorrow if anyone is still interested.
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ah well obviously language in its many appearances is more complex than simple hypnosis
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Language is MEME's, Very complex Programing, written or spoken.

The English Language is the Most Complex, and there for the most effective, this is why, by and large, English speaking people Rule the World.

Do ya want to know what Written English really looks like to our Brain?

You're not going to like it, or believe it.

None want to know the truth after I tell it to them. It is far to easy to Program/Hypnotize a Man.
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Language is MEME's, Very complex Programing, written or spoken.

The English Language is the Most Complex, and there for the most effective, this is why, by and large, English speaking people Rule the World.

Do ya want to know what Written English really looks like to our Brain?

You're not going to like it, or believe it.

None want to know the truth after I tell it to them. It is far to easy to Program/Hypnotize a Man.
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why don't you just say it.
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The next conceptualisation that is so well worth an understanding is that of subject and predicate. Most sentences in languages follow a pattern of the order of these subjects and predicates. Subjects are those that do the doing and the predicate is the doing.

i.e. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously

ideas are the subject and they happen to be colorless and green

sleeping furiously is what they do (the predicate)

Still no takers?

Well, if I said that Fred took a deep inhalation of breath as he sat and read in epiphany, the words that made such a deeper and profound understanding, in exhaling epiphany, then he would know that Fred is the subject and all the other stuff and the rest - the predicate.

All predicates are commands wrapped up in false language and all subjects are YOU.
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Language is a substitute. When you think, you think in words. these words act as a substitute material for your interaction with reality.
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Language is MEME's, Very complex Programing, written or spoken.

The English Language is the Most Complex, and there for the most effective, this is why, by and large, English speaking people Rule the World.

Do ya want to know what Written English really looks like to our Brain?

You're not going to like it, or believe it.

None want to know the truth after I tell it to them. It is far to easy to Program/Hypnotize a Man.
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if we only look at our brains we wouldn't be going anywhere

language

a tool among many
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I guess in that regard the human language is very limiting. It's like an artificial tunnel vision we've built for ourselves to make sense of the world around us. Like a bird, is not a bird. That's just what that sound sounds like spelt out in our english language. What is it really? An organism that flys, but even that is limiting.
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I guess in that regard the human language is very limiting. It's like an artificial tunnel vision we've built for ourselves to make sense of the world around us. Like a bird, is not a bird. That's just what that sound sounds like spelt out in our english language. What is it really? An organism that flys, but even that is limiting.
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Good point - if Birds were big, the language would have evolved to probably name them Boords or Boards

I know that sounds daft..but think about it, what words apart from big and small, have a big vowel sound (open vocal cavity) for a small 'thing' and vice versa.
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the vocal tricks only work one on one if at all or with massive aural augmentation

better yet join me in the reclamation of the word "gay"

classical semantic recovery
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I started my study, with a solid understanding of psychoacoustics in order to understand the effects of the language that works in tandem with music.

I analysed the song words of a well known band from Liverpool, England against Milton Model and rheotical criteria and found that the language of the rock band from Liverpool was scientifically proven as 'suggestive'.

It was an MA thesis.
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Qewl, I'm interested but I'm doing a few things at the moment.
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Is this language doom?
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Language is MEME's, Very complex Programing, written or spoken.

The English Language is the Most Complex, and there for the most effective, this is why, by and large, English speaking people Rule the World.

Do ya want to know what Written English really looks like to our Brain?

You're not going to like it, or believe it.

None want to know the truth after I tell it to them. It is far to easy to Program/Hypnotize a Man.
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Absolutely agree! The proliferation of our western culture and language is no accident. Not because we want to tax foreign people too or because we want their oil or other resources. We don't even ned to bank them...we got all the 'money'... We want them to talk our language.. You know what I'm sayin? D'ya get me? The word is the original spell. If we can get all the world understanding Will Smith movies then we got the whole world.
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Is this language doom?
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don't worry, even if it implodes completely it leaves languages and ideas in the blast crater
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good this ulysses has enough earwax to last a lifetime
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Earwax and lash yourself to the mast.
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the vocal tricks only work one on one if at all or with massive aural augmentation

better yet join me in the reclamation of the word "gay"

classical semantic recovery
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Gay - homosexual - man

Lesbian - homosexual - female
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No vids or links.... Come on back this shizz upyoda
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good this ulysses has enough earwax to last a lifetime
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Earwax and lash yourself to the mast.
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that wont be necessary. i see the maidens singing are very ugly.
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Is this language doom?
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The Lord sent the Word.
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Gladly. Our words hold power, they are a vibration that emanates from our throat. In the end, a word is mearly a vibration. If our path of learning is based upon the ability to understand what these vibrations mean, then it stands to reason that all we know, all we have learned and gleaned, has been based on these vibrations, or words, that we have learned to identify the objects and things that surround us. Example. A bird is not a bird. A bird is a living organism that humans assigned a vibrational frequency to, as is we gave that object a particular vibrational sound, or word. Therefore it stands to reason that all human oryx woes stem from our understanding of these vibrations. Think about how particular words evoke people's emotions. Those emotions are manipulated by vibrations. Do you get it?
 Quoting: covenent


So basically all of our grandiose ideas that we fight and die over boil down to the motion of our throats vibrating and releasing air as a sound, a sound that we associate with whatever we're dealing with. I'm sort of with you. But it feels more complex than that. What about everything that isn't said? For instance I live alone, so I don't speak out loud very often, only when I have to. There's so much that goes on in the minds of us humans that plays a role in what we do. There's no movement of the throat there, unless the language we hear in our head when we hear ourselves speak already has a power over us.
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Bingo gringo. The words have power over us, even when unspoken. They are, in a sense, hypnotic vibration. I concur with this scientist. Now think about the words the media constantly assails us with these days, and which in particular evoke ange, hatred, fear, etc. I speak of the constant biased attacks on certain theological beliefs which I will not mention, and the hatred that is stirred up when hearing these words. Tptb know this and manipulate one and all using these methods.
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I guess in that regard the human language is very limiting. It's like an artificial tunnel vision we've built for ourselves to make sense of the world around us. Like a bird, is not a bird. That's just what that sound sounds like spelt out in our english language. What is it really? An organism that flys, but even that is limiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10752623


I guess in that regard the human language is very limiting. It's like an artificial tunnel vision we've built for ourselves to make sense of the world around us. Like a bird, is not a bird. That's just what that sound sounds like spelt out in our english language. What is it really? An organism that flys, but even that is limiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10752623


This is true!

Our use of words allows us to assume things based off what we see, and do it very effectively. The word you use to assume, has already been given a meaning, the assumption that this word belongs with this thought seems so obvious, we do not even question it! This word completely takes over, and all the stereo types that have been aquanted with that word, change our perspectives on what it is we are observing. We don't get to 'think' at all.

We do not know anything outside our little box, because we 'see' nothing beyond it.
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the vocal tricks only work one on one if at all or with massive aural augmentation

better yet join me in the reclamation of the word "gay"

classical semantic recovery
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Gay - homosexual - man

Lesbian - homosexual - female
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nope

gay = happy

happiness is gay
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Your mother smells of elderberries and French-kisses pit bulls.
We opened doors by thinking.
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Re: Breaking - Scientist claims that all language is hypnotic
the vocal tricks only work one on one if at all or with massive aural augmentation

better yet join me in the reclamation of the word "gay"

classical semantic recovery
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11043918


Gay - homosexual - man

Lesbian - homosexual - female
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10509697


nope

gay = happy

happiness is gay
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Very good point - the definition of slave has changed throughout time too.
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If you wanna go to bed OP, we'll just pick it up another day, I practically live here, you knows how it is.
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Re: Breaking - Scientist claims that all language is hypnotic
The next conceptualisation that is so well worth an understanding is that of subject and predicate. Most sentences in languages follow a pattern of the order of these subjects and predicates. Subjects are those that do the doing and the predicate is the doing.

i.e. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously

ideas are the subject and they happen to be colorless and green

sleeping furiously is what they do (the predicate)

Still no takers?

Well, if I said that Fred took a deep inhalation of breath as he sat and read in epiphany, the words that made such a deeper and profound understanding, in exhaling epiphany, then he would know that Fred is the subject and all the other stuff and the rest - the predicate.

All predicates are commands wrapped up in false language and all subjects are YOU.
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Language is a substitute. When you think, you think in words. these words act as a substitute material for your interaction with reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217


Do we REALLY think in 'words' - I don't. I attach 'words' to my thoughts 'automatically' after they happen - my thoughts are flashes of image and emotion and sound - sometimes a 'word' comes first. Can new born babies think before they have mastered the language?
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No vids or links.... Come on back this shizz upyoda
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In the morning (its late night here) I will be happy to start disseminating my proof.

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