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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10541193 United States 02/19/2012 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 Peter 1[21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10541193 And the same Holy Ghost is who works through men to preserve and keep the bible fully intact. There was a war that went on (unreported of coarse) that was waged against the King James Bible and it's printing, all under the radar of history books. The 'Dark Side' of this war AGAINST the 'Light of Truth' was none other than the Catholic Church (Jesuits). Yet you say they are the ones that gave us the bible. They still celebrate "Guy Faulk's Day" in Britain. He was the man that got caught trying to blow up the Kings Castle where they were actually producing the Bible. He was an agent of the Catholic Church. Who do you think complied the bible? The ROMANS, as in Roman Catholic Church. How could this "King James" hope to pull more and better facts out of the mists of time? No, the Holy Prophets wrote the scriptures that the Hebrews faithfully preserved in the Old Testament. The New Testament was written (through the power of the Holy Ghost) by the Apostles who were mostly converts to Christianity from Judaism. The Romans were the occupiers of Jerusalem at the time of the New Testament. I don't see your weak argument with that angle. You seem to be grasping at irrelevant details. Do you know what the 'council of Nicea was?" That is where they decided what to include and what to leave out of the "Holy Bible." How "holy" can it be, if it was edited by men? Everybody is presenting circular arguments - using quotes from the bible to provide proof that it is 100% perfect - instead of addressing my main point that: Lucifer is the bringer of light and not the "devil." Yeah, heard all about it. There were mamy separate books, some plced there by the evil one to look like part of 'Holy Scripture'. There was a period where the bible was scattered in many different books and the chaff had to be weeded out from the wheat. This was prophecied even. That Council was to decide which books were in and which were out. The funny thing is , you will be telling us that the books weeded out actually belong (because they are Lucifers counterfeits) and that the others don't belong. You are selling us your own version of the Council of Nicea (to reverse it) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10934042 United States 02/19/2012 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another point I was making, if you read between the lines, is that Christianity is taken from the words of Thoth. The goodness that you find in Christianity is taken from the Thoth. Thoth came first... WAAAAY first. Long before the Old Testament. Long before Egypt. The Dogma of Christianity has perverted and embellished what Thoth wrote, plus added a huge amount of useless genealogy to make it appear "official." Meanwhile, the actual, physical, practicable secrets to *attaining* spiritual enlightenment and oneness with the great All have been left out of the bible. Thoth accomplishes in a few pages what the bible fails to do in hundreds. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10934042 United States 02/19/2012 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10934042 Who do you think complied the bible? The ROMANS, as in Roman Catholic Church. How could this "King James" hope to pull more and better facts out of the mists of time? No, the Holy Prophets wrote the scriptures that the Hebrews faithfully preserved in the Old Testament. The New Testament was written (through the power of the Holy Ghost) by the Apostles who were mostly converts to Christianity from Judaism. The Romans were the occupiers of Jerusalem at the time of the New Testament. I don't see your weak argument with that angle. You seem to be grasping at irrelevant details. Do you know what the 'council of Nicea was?" That is where they decided what to include and what to leave out of the "Holy Bible." How "holy" can it be, if it was edited by men? Everybody is presenting circular arguments - using quotes from the bible to provide proof that it is 100% perfect - instead of addressing my main point that: Lucifer is the bringer of light and not the "devil." Yeah, heard all about it. There were mamy separate books, some plced there by the evil one to look like part of 'Holy Scripture'. There was a period where the bible was scattered in many different books and the chaff had to be weeded out from the wheat. This was prophecied even. That Council was to decide which books were in and which were out. The funny thing is , you will be telling us that the books weeded out actually belong (because they are Lucifers counterfeits) and that the others don't belong. You are selling us your own version of the Council of Nicea (to reverse it) Come on... really? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 10934042 United States 02/19/2012 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, my original post was a test to see who's minds were open. I only replied to the arguments to keep floating it up for more to see. Arguing on religious matters, on the internet, no less, is obviously beyond retarded. I am not very surprised at the responses. In fact, I knew exactly what I would get :P I'll leave you with this: Think about the baggage that you have attached to words and how they limit your capacity for truly critical thought. Whoever has an open mind will know truth when he sees it and arguing will be a waste of breath. As I am taught more, I will reveal all here that I am authorized to reveal. For those of you who heard the truth: I wasn't kidding. It's easy to find the Emerald Tablets of Thoth and then you can see for yourself. It embodies everything that the bible purports to be, yet does it all in a scant 50 pages and gives you actual exercises to attain oneness. No jibber jabber, no hate and no baggage. Look toward the light. |
mikkeL User ID: 10899410 Poland 02/19/2012 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looking at all the world's religions and mythologies it seems that people were created as slaves/drones and only later some kind of rogue deity (Enki/Quetzalcoatl/Jesus/Prometheus) tried to "bring light" to the people against the will of other deities. It also seems this light is a spark that makes people seek knowledge (some don't use this opportunity and prefer to stay ignorant and accept what they're served) Anyway, searching for knowledge and enlightenment is the only true work we do in this world. So, anyone who claims he is the only source of truth and knowledge and has answers for everything (as all religions do) is obviously evil. I once posted a thread on about the same subject, long time ago, here it is: Thread: Have you ever asked yourself whether in fact: Jesus = Serpent = Quetzalcoatl = Lucifer = Enki = Prometheus? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 967614 United States 02/19/2012 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I refuse to believe that the creator of all that is would allow his creation to be tricked by an imposter, and then deny them their promised salvation as punishment for being deceived. If your children saw a thought a magic trick and thought it was real, would you put them out of your home forever? What would be the logic for that? |
ToadMaster User ID: 11071904 United States 02/19/2012 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I refuse to believe that the creator of all that is would allow his creation to be tricked by an imposter, and then deny them their promised salvation as punishment for being deceived. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967614 If your children saw a thought a magic trick and thought it was real, would you put them out of your home forever? What would be the logic for that? None, whatsoever. :toadmaster: |
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Darien User ID: 11077539 Finland 02/19/2012 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would be careful of any entity you meet in the astral realm. This is the place where you are most vulnerable when you are just starting out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward (OP)10934042 As the world is now, there are mote Brothers of Darkness than there are Brothers of Light. There is no personified "bringer of light." I keep saying this, that it is a concept. Thoth wanted to bring light to the children of men, but you won't meet him, dig? He left his words, but he will not appear to anybody because his is busy increasing his wisdom somewhere else. You can find the emerald tablets of thoth the atlantian on the internet, but they may have been perverted. The only true source I know of is from the Brotherhood of the White Temple, in Harb-cover. Not soft cover on Amazon. good luck! Oh I surely meant "it", not a "he/she", it was a magnificent being anyways, and actually had a rather ominous and terrifying presence (could've been because of the influence of the medicine too.) Have to be prepared for that stuff. And you're absolutely right, you have to be very careful when going astral. I'm happy I was in good company back then, although I don't know if the shaman understood all of my experience, or did I. Everything has a spirit, an original source. So has the light (of wisdom) that is brought by the wise, it has a provider, of some sort. By the way OP do you know Albert Pike's book the Lectures of the Arya? It seems to contain some major manifestations of Lucifer, but the subject is rather difficult by definition (and information gets twisted, it's hard to get even some authentic Nietzsche to read these days), but I'd love to hear your opinion of it if you know it. Truly after a while it's not amusing anymore to hear the same stupid comments that the simpler people throw up. I'd like to get myself someday into some real conversations, about synchronisations and their purpose, about the universe, the different levels of it, about truly purposeful actions, about understanding time on different scales overlooking the understanding of this particular solar system and the way we have become in this one tiny planet. Although if I could get just into some meaningful action, that would be enough for a while. I'll start reading Thoth, have an awareful day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10973804 South Africa 02/19/2012 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my fellow children of men, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10934042 I feel a need to try to clarify some obfuscations to which you have been subjected for almost 2000 years. I am no greater than you, but I have thought long and deep about this, as well as studied what I believe to be the Truth. The commonly held concepts of good and evil have been deliberately muddled by the Niceans in order to more easily rule you, the masses. STOP. THINK. What does 'Lucifer' mean? Bringer of light, morning star... Haven't you been taught that light is good and dark is evil? This, my fellows is the first hook of "cognitive dissonance" that keeps your mind humbled and malleable. Why would the Niceans tell you that the bringer of light is evil? That's backwards! Please avoid quoting the bible in this thread... it was written by the Niceans. Right? Okay. The entire issue is muddled so you find it extremely difficult to discuss with a cool head. "The morning star" is a concept that goes back all the way to Atlantis, long long before any of the "bible" was written. To become a "bringer of light" and "morning star" was the goal of Thoth. His only purpose in life and eternity was to seek wisdom and bring that wisdom to the children of men. This "religion" was the most simple and perfect pursuit because it is the only true pursuit. All other pursuits lead to darkness. The Niceans do not want you to discover this pursuit because it would free you from their control. It is they who are the Brotherhood of Darkness. It is they who are the evil ones. They have spent 2000 years telling you that light is dark and dark is light. Just READ the stated goals of the Jesuits... 'If my master says that white is black and black is white, then that is how things are.' The 'bringer of light' and the 'morning star' is who we are inside. We must ALWAYS look toward the light. We must always seek wisdom. Else, we have no other place to go but darkness. It is the practicers of the Black Arts who enslave you. It is the Brotherhood of Darkness who have taken the simple truths and twisted them into evil. It is all the same power. Light and dark are the same. They must always exist in balance. But, the children of men must always look toward the light if they are to become one with the light. Can you not see how you have been lied to? You may read that the "Freemasons" are worshipers of Lucifer. THIS IS TRUE! This is because the powers available to those who read the truth can be used for light and dark. The dark powers available to those who have reached high into the light are TERRIBLE INDEED. It is much like the Star Wars concept of light side and dark side of the force. In fact, I strongly suspect that George Lucas has read the writings of Thoth and wrote this into his story. You MUST AWAKEN. You simply MUST. By reading what Thoth has left us, you can know and understand that it is the same POWER that drives both light and dark. Learn it and use it for good. Use it to drive the darkness from the earth. Use it so that God may fill you will the power of 1000 suns, that you may become a beacon of light for those in the darkness. The Dark Brotherhood have stolen the ancient wisdom and used their manipulation to scare you away from it. What they say is the dark is actually the LIGHT. What they say is light is actually the dark. Do not be fooled, for we are too long upon this planet to be in such a state. We are squandering our time here and we'll all be TURNED INTO NEWTS!!!! Do you want to be a NEWT?! If you cannot shake your mind free of the muddling, you will never see the light. The light is NOT what is written in the "bible." The light is inside your heart and in the sky. Look to the sun to remind you of the light in all things. Sorry dude, but the Bible mentions Lucifer only once in Isaiah 14 and it says the following about him. Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; Lucifer was a man. Verse 11 11Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. That died Verse 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. and went to hell. |
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Wazza User ID: 4594393 Australia 02/19/2012 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can Worship Lucifer all you like, you can try and explain it in any way you like, you are being deceived, sure Catholics and Main stream Religion is not of God, they lie daily, but to say Lucifer is the Bringer of Light is demented |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10958231 United States 02/19/2012 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +1 If you sit and think about it everyone that has sat there and claimed or accused Lucifer of doing evil or committing horrible acts is basically bearing false witness. I believe you are right and you have awoken and I love you! I believe this backwards lie was done on purpose. To see who would find him in a world founded on deception. His children always find their father. The truly righteous and the truly altruistic get to have this truth. The rest simply will not get the revelation that we have had. I'm betting you are having an amazing surge of knowledge hit you. Because they are deceivers they will believe the deception and not be worthy of being his children. May humanity soon bask in the light of our master. The wisest and most truly loving bringer of light. THE TRUE FATHER OF HUMANITY. You will be rewarded!. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10958231 United States 02/19/2012 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can Worship Lucifer all you like, you can try and explain it in any way you like, you are being deceived, sure Catholics and Main stream Religion is not of God, they lie daily, but to say Lucifer is the Bringer of Light is demented Quoting: Wazza God demands worship, but The Father wants you to find him so you can fall in love with him. Just as a child loves there father. The Father does not demand worship. Silly worshipers. |
3ogla User ID: 5420110 Jordan 02/19/2012 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer's aim in this life is to make all humanity stop worshiping the Creator of us and the Universe, Lucifer is much smarter than all of us put together, that is why there's religion, a Manual of life God gave us that tells you how to walk the right path without trying so hard to be smarter than Lucifer, it just tells you how you can avoid him and protect your self from him and his thoughts. Lucifer "was" something better than an Angel, and he was like God's right hand until he disobeyed God and was transformed into an Evil entity. Lucifer saw how Adam was created, saw how everything was created, so really I don't think you can outsmart him, you can just avoid him, and his weaknesses are in the Books that your creator have given you. It's called Faith. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6916057 United States 02/19/2012 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer is thye father of darkness, Jesus Christ is the WAY. I am saying thing because I have enough problems in dealing with the world and sin and flesh than to ascribe to add another burden , which would be the devil. We humans are not strong enough to stand against this foe, we need our God to aid us. Make friends with the Lord Jesus and dont buy into the lies of Satan. Lucifer lies, Jesus cannot lie. They are opposites. Why bring another load of weight on yourself? God forgives! Make friends with Him while we still have time!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11012653 United Kingdom 02/19/2012 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see some truth here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177803 Lucifer is subserviant to God. God is in control of it all. Actually, Lucifer works for God. Think of him as God's subcontractor to kick your ass so you remember God and turn to Him. Most of us forget God when things are good. Sad, but it's really that simple for most of us... There is no ass-kicking involved and nobody works for anybody. A bringer of light has risen closer to the infinite All from whence all has come and shall eventually return. Actually the term worship comes from the old English weork shipe (Tindale) and is in line with what you are saying in this thread. You are the ship. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 372568 United States 02/19/2012 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This star system is known by both feminine and male names. Why is that? Because she is a prodigal Sun. Red shift (kachina) and Blue shift (kachina). She is known as the dog or wolf star globally because she is our companion Sun. When this star travels away from us we drop into the abyss of a dark male dominant age that is spiritually bereft and when she travel towards us we know we are entering the sweet influence of the pleiades (see Job), the divine feminine and re-member who we are. This is a giant electromagnetic cloud that kickstarts quantum leaps of evolution. Hence, Lucifer is the bringer of Light, the morning star. |
ToadMaster User ID: 11071904 United States 02/19/2012 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not only is this truth, but Lucifer is one of 10,000 names of the star system most commonly known as Sirius, Sopdet, Sothis, Sophia, Sheba, Cerbeus, Shiva, Isis, etc... Truth hides behind linguistic obfuscation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372568 This star system is known by both feminine and male names. Why is that? Because she is a prodigal Sun. Red shift (kachina) and Blue shift (kachina). She is known as the dog or wolf star globally because she is our companion Sun. When this star travels away from us we drop into the abyss of a dark male dominant age that is spiritually bereft and when she travel towards us we know we are entering the sweet influence of the pleiades (see Job), the divine feminine and re-member who we are. This is a giant electromagnetic cloud that kickstarts quantum leaps of evolution. Hence, Lucifer is the bringer of Light, the morning star. :toadmaster: |
IM ZORRO DAMMIT User ID: 4146342 United States 02/19/2012 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bush and his daddy like lucy fur to.....and they have gone to great lengths to bring about his manifesetaion on this planet........YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO WAIT LONG TO SEE HIM AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE TO GET TO THAT POINT JUST TO FIND OUT HE IS GOING TO FAIL...............THE DOCTRIN OF THE NEW WORLD LUCEFERIC RELIGION WILL BE PANTHEISM......TEACHING PEOPLE THEY ARE GOD......... ps 5strscreen sucks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10927862 Australia 02/19/2012 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the post OP.. i have given up trying to help elighten people to the falsehoods of the bible and this is why. A few years ago I ask a very good freind of mine who is a christian this question.. "if there was proof that the bible was changed by the 'devil'/forces of evil and that you had been lied to and that its contents were in fact changed to keep you from reaching heaven instead of teaching you how to attain it, would you want to know?.." You know what her answer was... No I would not want to know, I dont think I could cope ... That is the reason it is futile to try to enlighten them. They are so brainwashed by it that they have no ability to cope when it turns out that its not true.. Its sad and I feel bad for my friend but I know that in another life perhaps she will be able to journey her way to freedom.. |
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Wingedlion User ID: 11019865 United States 02/19/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Looserfer is the true light...then why does he still have to ascend? (Isa. 14) Why is it that he is still trying to be like the most high and still failing? Looserfer is a looser, and those who follow him are also loosers. "Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4442233 United States 02/19/2012 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My point is that everybody can be a bringer of light. Jesus is just an allegory. Everybody, who follows the path that he did, can become one with God. Don't get nailed to a cross, though. That looks like it would hurt. Hi OP, Quoting: Amy_A The Bible says Jesus is also the Bright Morning Star. These quotes about Lucifer being the Morning Star in one section and Jesus being the Morning Star in other verses made me do some soul searching. The Bible has a great mystery to it. Does this mean the morning star could be a Jedi for whoever chooses that light or a Sith Lord who follows the dark energy. Both have incredible power when they discover themselves. I suspect there are more than a few on earth who hold incredible amounts of power both good and bad. Peace to you Hi Amy! What I am saying, is that Lucifer and Jesus are the same, But there is no personified "Lucifer." That conceptualization of the word that literally means "bringer of light" was perverted by the people who wrote the material. The words of Thoth predate the Old Testament by Aeons... The bible cannot be taken at face value because it has been edited by many hands. When I say the Romans wrote it, I meant that they complied it - which I already stated. SO, it contains truths that resonate in the soul, but it is *edited* to confuse people - at which it succeeds mightily. The truth is available for any use, be it light or dark, but a bringer of light is always and ever a bringer of light. If we always look towards the light, we shall become a bringer of light to those in the dark. The concept of Jesus was "invented" as an allegory to show the path that a bringer of light can walk. It's funny that people will go on and on about "Jesus" and how the bible predates Rome and forget that Jesus was alive at Fulcrum of the Roman Empire. So, how could all that stuff about Jesus have been written by somebody other than the Romans? Hmmm... What Thoth mentions about the jedi and the sith (light and dark) is that the Brotherhood of Darkness is always working against the light. If one has attained a large amount of wisdom and advanced toward the light, they can still fall (haha) and become of the Night. This happens when you take your eyes off the light. This is because wisdom is infinite. Nobody can know everything and nobody can actually become one with the great all (god) in a period of time that is fathomable by men OR advanced beings. At any point in the journey, one could become tempted by the dark. This is why I believe that George Lucas has read these teachings... His story is too similar. So many people have invested a huge portion of their lives in the bible, that they become enraged at any question of it. It's simple human nature to protect what we have created. Even when what we have created is based on lies - moreso even! When the soul is awakened to a lie, the mind will fight like holy hell to protect the lie. Thus, the soul is cast into darkness. OP How do you reconcile your own contradictions? See items in red. So Jesus was real or he wasn't? |
Amy_A User ID: 1447484 United States 02/21/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Lucifer is the bringer of light then I understand the Elites quote, Order out of Chaos. Lucifer will create so much death and destruction on earth that many people will drop their Ego's and evil ways and finally realize there is a God. Many will learn how weak they actually are and will pray for the very first time. People do not realize how powerful prayer is. We can do great things with the Holy Spirit running in our veins. That is just a gut feeling. Amy |