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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11021171  United States02/19/2012 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MrOysterhead ok, i know we are talking in speculation but based on that.....there is a mix of pre-jesus jewish people and post-jesus christians in heavan? Only people who accepted the Messiah can enter into the heaven where God dwells. No one ascended into heaven until Jesus did first. After that, all who believed in Him entered into heaven. I believe there is more then one "heaven". There is the heaven where God dwells, and then there is "paradise" or "abrahams bosom". I believe that is where the righteous jewish people are for now, those that followed the law and atoned for their sin through the ritual laws and sacrifices. I will just stay on earth.. you and your butt loving brain washed cult can go to your fake heaven and bend each other over and start taking it up the butt.. You and your cult make this world a bad place.. If and thats a big IF, your religion is true I hope he does that you all away.. The world WILL be a better place without religion and you people screaming and foceing it on people day after day Romans 9:17-18 New Living Translation (NLT) 17 For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, “I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth.”[a] 18 So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen. What? I was not listening.. YOur cult babbling bull makes my head hurt... Cuz no one can have a good life and after life without believeing in your bull gob.. Whatever.. you must be a leader in your cult.. If your gob is that petty then I would have nothing to do with it anyways.. I would rather enjoy hell or be left on earth then have to deal with its bull shit.. |
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| L.OT. User ID: 1462815 United States02/19/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Quoting: neim777 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these,[having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. 17 Behold, thou art called a JUE[true believer], and restest in the law,and makest thy boast of God STOP adding your words to Gods Holy Word...you adde "true believer" in parenthesses, behind jewish... to may it say what you believe. Do you know that jewish people must accept Jesus to go to Heaven...keeping a law, being good, being a jewish, none of these are good enough. Jesus paid it in full! Acts 4:10-12 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Notice it says in v.10 unto you ALL, and to ALL the people of Israel... That covers you and me and everybody else. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10101446  Canada02/19/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This concept of sin, is quite different then you have been led to believe... The people who can truly understand the true purpose of the bible, know EXACTLY what sin is refering to... Quoting: AmazingGRACE You are involved in the biggest pyramid/chain scheme ever devised... Not only are you making others very rich, you are giving away your spiritual power, the biggest mistake you can make... the WORD of GOD is never a mistake. When you know who this god really is, it is a HUGE mistake.. my dear friend....you have it backwards!! it is a mistake NOT to know who this GOD is... HE IS YOUR CREATOR!! There is a phrase that goes like this.... 'don't bite the hand that feeds you!' Dear, I know exactly who my god is, and it is not the god of the bible... Monotheism, in a polytheistic galaxy... Not one god, many gods animating life for experiential learning... You will learn eventually... |
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Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States02/19/2012 04:31 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Quoting: neim777 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these,[having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. 17 Behold, thou art called a JUE[true believer], and restest in the law,and makest thy boast of God STOP adding your words to Gods Holy Word...you adde "true believer" in parenthesses, behind jewish... to may it say what you believe. Do you know that jewish people must accept Jesus to go to Heaven...keeping a law, being good, being a jewish, none of these are good enough. Jesus paid it in full! Acts 4:10-12 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Notice it says in v.10 unto you ALL, and to ALL the people of Israel... That covers you and me and everybody else. Yep! Galatians chapter 3 pretty much sums it all up. Can't argue after reading that, or the whole book of Galatians for that matter. Anyone who argues for the law after reading Galatians is just spiritually blind. No other way to describe it. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| neim777 THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 9984984 United States02/19/2012 05:12 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Quoting: neim777 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these,[having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. 17 Behold, thou art called a JUE[true believer], and restest in the law,and makest thy boast of God STOP adding your words to Gods Holy Word...you adde "true believer" in parenthesses, behind jewish... to may it say what you believe. Do you know that jewish people must accept Jesus to go to Heaven...keeping a law, being good, being a jewish, none of these are good enough. Jesus paid it in full! Acts 4:10-12 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Notice it says in v.10 unto you ALL, and to ALL the people of Israel... That covers you and me and everybody else. Yep! Galatians chapter 3 pretty much sums it all up. Can't argue after reading that, or the whole book of Galatians for that matter. Anyone who argues for the law after reading Galatians is just spiritually blind. No other way to describe it. lol so sad...spiritual blindness! lol No you and your disciples dont even understand the gospel but love to go into the epistles and grab your 1 verse solutions. Puulllllease! Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/19/2012 05:15 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA!  |
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| Once4All The Truth Is Clear To Everyone! User ID: 11083057 United States02/19/2012 06:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Quoting: neim777 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these,[having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. 17 Behold, thou art called a JUE[true believer], and restest in the law,and makest thy boast of God STOP adding your words to Gods Holy Word...you adde "true believer" in parenthesses, behind jewish... to may it say what you believe. Do you know that jewish people must accept Jesus to go to Heaven...keeping a law, being good, being a jewish, none of these are good enough. Jesus paid it in full! Acts 4:10-12 10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Notice it says in v.10 unto you ALL, and to ALL the people of Israel... That covers you and me and everybody else. Yep! Galatians chapter 3 pretty much sums it all up. Can't argue after reading that, or the whole book of Galatians for that matter. Anyone who argues for the law after reading Galatians is just spiritually blind. No other way to describe it.  John 11:35 Jesus wept. [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] By the time you figure out how accurate God is it may be too late! EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13] Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1643736 United States02/19/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. |
| neim777 THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 9984984 United States02/19/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin.  And for your faith and vision to see the truth the heavenly father will bless you in your humility Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/19/2012 07:28 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! |
| Lisa*Lisa (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States02/19/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. One needs a little more discernment then that because christians are not under the OT law anymore. Wearing cotton and nylon together is not a sin for us. Being uncircumcised is not a sin for us. People need to study and understand. We are under a new covenant. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| MrOysterhead User ID: 11119799 United States02/19/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. One needs a little more discernment then that because christians are not under the OT law anymore. Wearing cotton and nylon together is not a sin for us. Being uncircumcised is not a sin for us. People need to study and understand. We are under a new covenant. ready to answer that question of what to follow and what not to follow out of the OT? seems pretty important There are two kinds of people who come to GLP: Those who want to know and those who want to know who wants to know. |
| neim777 THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 9984984 United States02/19/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. One needs a little more discernment then that because christians are not under the OT law anymore. Wearing cotton and nylon together is not a sin for us. Being uncircumcised is not a sin for us. People need to study and understand. We are under a new covenant. bible dont lieFor finding fault with them , he saith , Behold , the days come , saith the Lord , when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah : you gentiles are not the house of israel...get it straight! He made a new covenant with Israel elininating the blood sacrifice only.Then Israel was to teach the gentiles his laws and statutes.That is why paul and the other disciples were spreading the word. Nobody is saying you have to circumsised or wear cotton but your heart has to have love and if you love you will OBEY THE WORD OF THE MOST HIGH. People like you say with your mouth LORD LORD but you are far from the truth and you spread heresies. WHY DONT YOU STUDY THE BIBLE BEFORE YOU GIVE PEOPLE YOUR YOUTUBE AND INTERNET CHRISTIANITY 1ST john Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous WHICH COMMANDMENTS? 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it Nothings changed in Gods WORD he will not lie to us Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/19/2012 08:15 PM "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! |
| neim777 THE SCARS OF JUDAH'S SINS User ID: 9984984 United States02/19/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. 1st JOHN CHAPTER 2 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. keep reading the word, there you will find the answers trust no man but test the scriptures precept upon precpt line upon line "PAUL:I BECAME ALL THINGS TO WIN SOME OVER TO CHRIST" I am kinsman of Adalbert von Sternberg who declared around 1900 that he is Jewish only by religion through his kinship to "THE HAPSBURGS" I AM HERE TO REVEAL THE LIES OF OUR FATHERS AND TO SHOW THE REAL HEBREWS THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE! MAY GOD FORGIVE US FOR THE PLUNDER OF ISRAEL AND WEST AFRA! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1643736 United States02/19/2012 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a Christian....and I try to live out what I believe the Bible teaches. But Christianity has done much too discredit itself. We are the ones that have discredited ourselves. We have muddied the lines on what is sin and what isn't sin. We have started taking scriptures and misinterpreting them. We are the hypocrites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1643736 At a certain point man's logic will only make things muddier. So what the Bible calls sin we need to call sin. 1st JOHN CHAPTER 2 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. keep reading the word, there you will find the answers trust no man but test the scriptures precept upon precpt line upon line I have been a christian for over 20 years...was raised in a christian home. So I have definitely been around the block so to speak as it relates to religion. James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. I appreciate the encouragement.....some of these posts I don't respond too simply because life is not about winning the arguments. But what means more too me than anything is when one can state his beliefs, and than actually live them out. Let your life speak for itself....very literally, your actions will speak louder than words. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1190661  Australia02/20/2012 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We either live by and for His Truth or we die by the infection of sin that came by our own free will choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3404973 There is nothing of this world that can compare to what He can give our hearts if we live by His Word. We are talking about a family in a world that is no longer bound by sin , hateful words, tears or even death. Until then, we have to do everything we can to live by His Word and gather as many sinners as we can unto Him so they can be part of that family as well. There is no hate in that, nothing selfish, it is part of His ultimate will, and even that is only the beginning of His love. 1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him Oh Free will is bunkem. If the Bible is true omnipotent GOD, knowing everything, cast satan and his followers down to Earth. Genesis 6 [link to bibleresources.bible.com] His omnipotence knew that we didn't stand a chance against the Satan. Afterall he was one of the Sons of God mentioned in Genesis. Then allegedly omnipotent GOD placed the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in Eden. He is omnipotent - He knew what satan would do, he knew what Eve would do, he knew what Adam would do! So by placing the tree there he dissolved free will because he knew! And who does the Bible say was punished by GOD for the work of the Sons Of God? Humans! He is omnipotent he knew they would have power over us! But just to prove my point. Where is the freewill in the story of Moses and the Pharoah of Egypt. The Pharoah was prepared to let the israelites go BUT God kept "hardening Pharoah's heart" in fact no less than 17 times! Again there is no free will in this story. Exodus 9 [link to bibleresources.bible.com] Exodus 10 [link to bibleresources.bible.com] Exodus 11 [link to bibleresources.bible.com] Why don't you people pick up on these things when you read your book. If you get this freewill stuff wrong what else are you getting wrong. Freewill is rubbish! |
