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MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.

 
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MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
I am 64. Was raised by an alcoholic mother who never made me brush my teeth when I was a boy. At age 10 I went to live with my father and had 6 Silver Amalgam fillings in my molars.

These were big fillings as I had some rather advanced tooth decay by the time I went to live with Dad who insisted on regular tooth brushing and regular check ups.

When I entered the Navy out of high school in 1967 the Navy Dentists drilled out all six of the fillings and put more and even larger Mercury Amalgam fillings in. The fillings were so large that they left a shell of a tooth and those shells broke away within a few months of the new fillings. Those Navy dentists were new at their profession and did more damage than good. Consequently I had to have crowns put on four of the molars. The other two I had the mercury amalgam drilled out and replaced with a modern filler.

When I explained all of the life time procedures to my dentist who had recommended the replacement of the metal fillings, he told me that according to the book, I should have received a lethal dose of Mercury and should have serious brain damage.

Hummmmmm? Just a few years ago I started writing books for a living and have done very well. To be able to do so would seem to indicate that I am fairly intelligent. I have taken six IQ tests in my lifetime, and all of them scored in the 135 to 145 range, so if there was braindamage, I was probably up there with Einstein before I was exposed to all that Mercury.

Could it be that mercury does not cause the problems that people say it does?
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
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How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


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SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


And, BTW, people don't get diabetes because they are bad people and eat the wrong foods. As a diabetic, I totally believe that environmental toxins cause damage to the endocrine system and then the person's body cannot process food properly. There is a bad attitude toward diabetics in this country -- mostly encouraged by the health insurance industry -- that diabetics are responsible for their disease. Yes, when you become diabetic, your body has trouble processing food, however, IT IS CAUSED BY THE DISEASE, NOT BY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. Even if I eat NOTHING AT ALL, my blood sugar can shoot up to over 500.
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Re: MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


SO THEN THE QUESTION ARISES, "WHY SOME PEOPLE AND NOT ALL?"

I am blood type O +

Are there other O + people out there who have not had any ill effects from Mercury Amalgam fillings???????
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


And, BTW, people don't get diabetes because they are bad people and eat the wrong foods. As a diabetic, I totally believe that environmental toxins cause damage to the endocrine system and then the person's body cannot process food properly. There is a bad attitude toward diabetics in this country -- mostly encouraged by the health insurance industry -- that diabetics are responsible for their disease. Yes, when you become diabetic, your body has trouble processing food, however, IT IS CAUSED BY THE DISEASE, NOT BY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. Even if I eat NOTHING AT ALL, my blood sugar can shoot up to over 500.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


There are two types of Diabetes. One is caused by an insufficiency of the hormone insulin. It usually runs in families and appears to have genetic affinity.

The other type is "Age Onset Diabetes" that is usually also called "Obesity Onset Diabetes" Where the body mass is far larger than normal that the insulin production is not enough to the size if the body. This Diabetes can easily be controlled by getting back to normal body weight. (i.e. dieting and stop eating like a pig.)
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Re: MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


And, BTW, people don't get diabetes because they are bad people and eat the wrong foods. As a diabetic, I totally believe that environmental toxins cause damage to the endocrine system and then the person's body cannot process food properly. There is a bad attitude toward diabetics in this country -- mostly encouraged by the health insurance industry -- that diabetics are responsible for their disease. Yes, when you become diabetic, your body has trouble processing food, however, IT IS CAUSED BY THE DISEASE, NOT BY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. Even if I eat NOTHING AT ALL, my blood sugar can shoot up to over 500.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


I never said diabetics were bad people, but some diabetics bring it on themselves by diet (a lot of overweight people have diabetes) or from alcohol ( jacks up the pancreas and causes diabetes in some) and others get it by no fault of their own. I would need more proof that would back up that diabetes are caused by mercury toxicity not saying its not possible but I just never heard of that before.
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How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


And, BTW, people don't get diabetes because they are bad people and eat the wrong foods. As a diabetic, I totally believe that environmental toxins cause damage to the endocrine system and then the person's body cannot process food properly. There is a bad attitude toward diabetics in this country -- mostly encouraged by the health insurance industry -- that diabetics are responsible for their disease. Yes, when you become diabetic, your body has trouble processing food, however, IT IS CAUSED BY THE DISEASE, NOT BY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. Even if I eat NOTHING AT ALL, my blood sugar can shoot up to over 500.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


I never said diabetics were bad people, but some diabetics bring it on themselves by diet (a lot of overweight people have diabetes) or from alcohol ( jacks up the pancreas and causes diabetes in some) and others get it by no fault of their own. I would need more proof that would back up that diabetes are caused by mercury toxicity not saying its not possible but I just never heard of that before.
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Well, maybe you will be exposed to some environmental toxin that will cause you to become diabetic and then you will believe. We can only hope.
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[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


And, BTW, people don't get diabetes because they are bad people and eat the wrong foods. As a diabetic, I totally believe that environmental toxins cause damage to the endocrine system and then the person's body cannot process food properly. There is a bad attitude toward diabetics in this country -- mostly encouraged by the health insurance industry -- that diabetics are responsible for their disease. Yes, when you become diabetic, your body has trouble processing food, however, IT IS CAUSED BY THE DISEASE, NOT BY THE PERSON SUFFERING FROM DIABETES. Even if I eat NOTHING AT ALL, my blood sugar can shoot up to over 500.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


I never said diabetics were bad people, but some diabetics bring it on themselves by diet (a lot of overweight people have diabetes) or from alcohol ( jacks up the pancreas and causes diabetes in some) and others get it by no fault of their own. I would need more proof that would back up that diabetes are caused by mercury toxicity not saying its not possible but I just never heard of that before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108

Well, maybe you will be exposed to some environmental toxin that will cause you to become diabetic and then you will believe. We can only hope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


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Re: MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
I am 64. Was raised by an alcoholic mother who never made me brush my teeth when I was a boy. At age 10 I went to live with my father and had 6 Silver Amalgam fillings in my molars.

These were big fillings as I had some rather advanced tooth decay by the time I went to live with Dad who insisted on regular tooth brushing and regular check ups.

When I entered the Navy out of high school in 1967 the Navy Dentists drilled out all six of the fillings and put more and even larger Mercury Amalgam fillings in. The fillings were so large that they left a shell of a tooth and those shells broke away within a few months of the new fillings. Those Navy dentists were new at their profession and did more damage than good. Consequently I had to have crowns put on four of the molars. The other two I had the mercury amalgam drilled out and replaced with a modern filler.

When I explained all of the life time procedures to my dentist who had recommended the replacement of the metal fillings, he told me that according to the book, I should have received a lethal dose of Mercury and should have serious brain damage.

Hummmmmm? Just a few years ago I started writing books for a living and have done very well. To be able to do so would seem to indicate that I am fairly intelligent. I have taken six IQ tests in my lifetime, and all of them scored in the 135 to 145 range, so if there was braindamage, I was probably up there with Einstein before I was exposed to all that Mercury.

Could it be that mercury does not cause the problems that people say it does?
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Could it be that your inability to comprehend this is just one of a constellation of consequences linked to mercury exposure?
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Fillings aside, we also all had mercury thermometers. When those things broke, the mercury spilled out. It was great fun to play with. I did this several times over the years - anybody else?
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Re: MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
Yup,
mother died and father was a big ass so me and sibs were not taken care of as children until we were placed in foster homes.

I still have 8 in my mouth and 3 are crackin,just had one pulled last week because the whole tooth just kinda fell apart,i swallowed the damn filling in my sleep.

What was left was a shell,hurt for a week before the dentist got at what was left.

He said he could drill out the rest of um for around $3,000,im like wtf?

Maybe thats why i have joint problems?
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Amalgam filling expand as they age and will eventually crack a tooth. The Plastic fillings actually shrink as they age and can cause similar damage by imploding the tooth if the filling is large and the tooth thin.
Porcelain fillings that are mapped and sized by computer in 3D are currently the best alternative, although there are even tougher materials also coming on the market. The price is upwards of 1,000 dollars a tooth, but will last longer than a recap, which would be the next step anyway if you planned on saving the tooth.
I have had most of my work done in Costa Rica at approximately a third of the price including, hotels, flights, plus a couple of nice two week vacations.
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Fillings aside, we also all had mercury thermometers. When those things broke, the mercury spilled out. It was great fun to play with. I did this several times over the years - anybody else?
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A lot of kids played with Mercury in the Fifties. A kid down the street drank some because he read that it was called Quicksilver because it ran through your body so fast. He went on living for years after that. He did tell us that it took two days to pass through his system and out into the toilet. He seemed perfectly normal to me.

I know a good half a hundred adults who are my age and all had Amalgam Fillings and not one of them seems to have a problem. No discernible brain damage. All are accomplished and quite wealthy. All are Republicans, by the way. Maybe you have to be a Republican not to have brain damage from Mercury?
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I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


SO THEN THE QUESTION ARISES, "WHY SOME PEOPLE AND NOT ALL?"

I am blood type O +

Are there other O + people out there who have not had any ill effects from Mercury Amalgam fillings???????
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I'm O + too. I had tons of mercury fillings as a young one.

I went onto straight "A's" in High School, Letter Jacket and four year paid scholarship to a University
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I don't know if it is possible, but a class action lawsuit against the ADA is warranted. Let me know if anything is in the works, as my mouth is a disaster area thanks to amalgam fillings.
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Fillings aside, we also all had mercury thermometers. When those things broke, the mercury spilled out. It was great fun to play with. I did this several times over the years - anybody else?
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Yup. No diabetes, and I ate sugar, and other crap food pretty much 24/7, and I had amalgam fillings.

I can see a direct correlation.
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I am 64. Was raised by an alcoholic mother who never made me brush my teeth when I was a boy. At age 10 I went to live with my father and had 6 Silver Amalgam fillings in my molars.

These were big fillings as I had some rather advanced tooth decay by the time I went to live with Dad who insisted on regular tooth brushing and regular check ups.

When I entered the Navy out of high school in 1967 the Navy Dentists drilled out all six of the fillings and put more and even larger Mercury Amalgam fillings in. The fillings were so large that they left a shell of a tooth and those shells broke away within a few months of the new fillings. Those Navy dentists were new at their profession and did more damage than good. Consequently I had to have crowns put on four of the molars. The other two I had the mercury amalgam drilled out and replaced with a modern filler.

When I explained all of the life time procedures to my dentist who had recommended the replacement of the metal fillings, he told me that according to the book, I should have received a lethal dose of Mercury and should have serious brain damage.

Hummmmmm? Just a few years ago I started writing books for a living and have done very well. To be able to do so would seem to indicate that I am fairly intelligent. I have taken six IQ tests in my lifetime, and all of them scored in the 135 to 145 range, so if there was braindamage, I was probably up there with Einstein before I was exposed to all that Mercury.

Could it be that mercury does not cause the problems that people say it does?
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I dont know about all this stuff.I do know I had bad teeth from the start.Not much calcium intake due to a bad allergy with dairy.No milk at all.I had some huge fillings done too years ago.I still have one that is nothing but a shell and the huge filling thats metallic looking.Have a couple of smaller ones with those fillings.Those were done in the free clinic on wheels thing they use to bring to the rural schools to work on poor childrens teeth.
Looking back I am sure it was just training and almost all kids had the fillings.
I never seemed to have any of the issues that is suppose to be related to the mercury.I made good grades,was a spelling champ,a good writer which I still do.
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i beleive mercury exposure can cause diabeateies

the reasoning is that mercury binds to basically every enzyme it contacts. and insulin is an enzyme.

as well. mercury destroys organisms using the above mentions process.

binds to the protiens that make up anything, and destroys them.

its as simple as that.

the fact of the matter is it seems to be a conspiracy that all these deiseas are said to be coaused by other thigns taht mercury. when in fact that is like likely true.

its poisin, and you have no choice but to eat it. hows that for bad diet.
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Re: MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS WERE NORMAL FOR MY GENERATION.
I am age 59 and I got my first amalgam fillings when I was 21 years old. I was diagnosed with diabetes almost immediately after getting those fillings.

My life and health have never been the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


How would it cause diabetes? neurological side effects yes but diabetes most likely genetic or caused by poor diet. stop blaming fillings on something coincidental.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10870108


[link to zap.intergate.ca]

SILVER AMALGAM FILLINGS
POISON THE PANCREAS

So-called silver amalgam fillings are actually 50% mercury and they poison not only the neurological system causing MS and other neurological diseases, they also poison the endocrine system (the glands) including the pancreas that produces insulin, thus causing diabetes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961311


SO THEN THE QUESTION ARISES, "WHY SOME PEOPLE AND NOT ALL?"

I am blood type O +

Are there other O + people out there who have not had any ill effects from Mercury Amalgam fillings???????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1435822

I'm also O + and have had no problems from amalgam fillings. I am turning 31 next month, and got my first fillings when I was about 8 years old.
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I had perfect teeth really strong in in excellent condition now they are all corroded and fucked because i let some retard denist fill my mouth up with poison , i also have chronic sinus as a result of this why does it effect some people an not others who really cares but it does effect some people really badly and cause a lot of health problems. Dentistry has committed a serious crime against humanity and it is my aim to make there profession dissapear, just about everything they do is bad for the patients health they should be able to apply something to the teeth to promote the tooths natural healing or remove the tooth those two roles and nothing else drilling and filling isnt natural and it should be stopped.

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