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Is Jesus a Made Up Story?

 
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Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
One thing's for certain, Jesus has influenced the world in one way or another.

Do atheists and non-believers really think that the stories about Jesus were made up or lies?

Does that make sense?
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Re: Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
Yeah, it's all bullshit just like everything else in the bible.
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Of course it is ...

Symbolism.
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No he is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, and all power in heaven and earth has been given to him.
He was crucified and 3 days later arose from the dead, and is now seated at the right hand of God.
In fact our entire date system is based around him; 2012 years since what?
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You answered the question yourself. It's what they think, and what they think is not the truth but merely their opinion, theres no divine revelation to back it up, just the thoughts of worms wallowing around in their worminess, with no thought to call on their creatory. Pitiful creatures with no hope.
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Re: Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
check out the story of the Egyptian God Horus (who existed before Jesus was even thought of).... then tell me if you think the story of Jesus is true or not.
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Tacitus was a famous Roman historian.
He was born in 56 AD.
He wrote of the Christians being martyred (by Nero in 64 AD) that he remembered as a child, when he was an older man.
Nero's wife was Poppaea Sabina. Find out a little about her, or about Nero, or about Tacitus. Don't take the propaganda of the Christ-haters hook, line, and sinker.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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It's tricky, because of the occult allegories embedded into the story of Jesus, it makes it easy to dismiss or interpret however anyone wants.

You'll only get opinions.

Imo, Jesus might not be his real name - but a reference for those in the know for Ja Zeus or hail Zeus, saturn worship...

Also the three wise men as being the Orion stars rising during a specific time over the horizon.

Twelve disciples as the twelve zodiacs...

Crucifixion is quite the occult allegory, hands nailed, crown of thorns, locations of the wounds, ect ect, these mystery guys have been getting off on it for over a thousand years now...

What SUCKS is what has been done with the story, what it has been used for.

Shame that the story of a pure spiritual person that becomes a teacher is turned into human sacrifice worship and a sin forgiveness vending machine...

Shame that people assume there was already a "chosen one" and how dare they consider to become christ-like themselves, HE already did it for me.

Sexist, diminutive, guilt-ridden, implies the follower should be desperate, implies sin is forgivable at a cost, implies love is conditional - all stacked into a story of liberation.

But hey, that's how usurping works, you take something good and warp it into something that is manipulative, funny that Christians assume their religion is immune to corruption over the years...

Foul play is afoot, the story had to be taken control of in their minds, otherwise such ideas would take control over society, rather than society maintaining control of us, Rome wasn't stupid when they nationalized their translation of the religion ;)

Rationalizing the spiritual middle-man, the wrathful, guilt-imposing, jealous, super-power.

It becomes difficult to separate truth from corruption over the years, but then again, it's not so difficult...
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I'm somehwere between an atheist and agnostic and I believe there is probably some truth to some of the stories about Jesus and other parts of the bible but the stories were passed on over many generations from some events that did happen around those times as well as some of the ancient Sumerian and Egyptian civilisations and mashed into whats in the bible today.

The rest of whats in the bible is pure fiction.
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ask the chosen people of G-d
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02/19/2012 10:56 PM
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Yeah does not make sense when he wants to be the sus of your sister if you have any.

Even i get no help but f yeah.
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Yes. Completely made up story.

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But i don't like the story maker.
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I think this is closer to the truth. Isus/Jesus did exist but they totally twisted the story.

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Another description of Jesus is found in "The Archko Volume" which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus. This information substantiates that He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. In a chapter entitled "Gamaliel's Interview" it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:

"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This jewish [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before..."

- The Archko Volume, translated by Drs. McIntosh and Twyman of the Antiquarian Lodge, Genoa, Italy, from manuscripts in Constantinople and the records of the Senatorial Docket taken from the Vatican of Rome (1896) 92-93
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Without a doubt, Jesus of Nazareth walked this plane.

Anything beyond that is up for discussion.
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It doesn't matter if Christ was 'real' or not. In the manner you may know him, no he did not exist.

If we take a historical look and question who lived during this time, the answer is simple.

Caesarion Ptolemaios Kaisar; Latin: Ptolemaeus Caesar), was the last king of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt, who reigned jointly with his mother Cleopatra VII of Egypt, from September 2, 44 BC. For eighteen days, up to August, 30 BC he was nominally the sole pharaoh, when he was killed on orders of Octavian, who would become the Roman emperor Augustus. He was the eldest son of Cleopatra VII, and possibly the only son of Julius Caesar, for whom he was named.
 Quoting: Wikipedia


Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

O.K.

There is a rumor that Cleopatra saved him before Augustus came down to Egypt. Allegedly he was sent to the EAST where he studied the Orient and brought it back to the West, which inevitably lead to the Destruction of the Roman Government (which had to accept the Christian religion). This explains the 'missing' years of Christ as well.

Plain and simple, Christ gave you your freedom by rebelling against the system, anyone who is unable to see it, simply doesn't get what the struggle is really about.

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I stickied this for the TRUTH, people need to stop judging Christ because of MANS decisions.

Last Edited by Children of the Atom on 02/20/2012 12:18 AM
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Re: Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
Explained here ... [link to www.truthism.com]
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looking back on "christian" history, sure looks that way
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looking back on "christian" history, sure looks that way
 Quoting: hoot no more/hasheater 11122052


After you are dead and gone...the rest of the world can say that you are a made up story....but Jesus lives in the hearts and minds of men, and they are the ones that know that he is real.
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Nope.


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Jesus is REAL and is ALIVE!!!

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. (John 3:16)

Very truly, I tell you, anyone who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and does not come under judgment, but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24)

"What must I do to perform the works of God?" Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent. (John 6:28-29)

Very truly, I tell you, whoever believes has eternal life. (John 6:47)

I am the gate. Whoever enters by me will be saved. (John 10:9)

I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies (John 11:25)

Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. (John 14:1--3)

Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)

There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given amoung mortals by which we must be saved (Acts 4:12)

Jesus Christ--he is Lord of all. They put him to death by hanging him on a tree; but God raised him on the third day....everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name. (Acts 10:36,39,40,43)

"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They answered, "Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved." (Acts 16:30-31)

For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23)

God demonstrated His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

..the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1)

If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." (Romans 10:9)

Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. (Romans 10:13)

All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags. (Isaiah 64:6)

Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow. (Isaiah 1:18)

It is by faith you have been saved, through faith ---- and this not from yourselves --- it is a gift of God --- not by works, so that no one can boast. (Ephesian 2:8-9)

God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful. (1 Corinthians 1:9)

You will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you. (Jeremiah 29:12-13)
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It doesn't matter if Christ was 'real' or not. In the manner you may know him, no he did not exist.

If we take a historical look and question who lived during this time, the answer is simple.

Caesarion Ptolemaios Kaisar; Latin: Ptolemaeus Caesar), was the last king of the Ptolemaic dynasty of Egypt, who reigned jointly with his mother Cleopatra VII of Egypt, from September 2, 44 BC. For eighteen days, up to August, 30 BC he was nominally the sole pharaoh, when he was killed on orders of Octavian, who would become the Roman emperor Augustus. He was the eldest son of Cleopatra VII, and possibly the only son of Julius Caesar, for whom he was named.
 Quoting: Wikipedia


Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

O.K.

There is a rumor that Cleopatra saved him before Augustus came down to Egypt. Allegedly he was sent to the EAST where he studied the Orient and brought it back to the West, which inevitably lead to the Destruction of the Roman Government (which had to accept the Christian religion). This explains the 'missing' years of Christ as well.

Plain and simple, Christ gave you your freedom by rebelling against the system, anyone who is unable to see it, simply doesn't get what the struggle is really about.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


This is where I am leaning. He was/is an example, unfortunately, the victor writes the history.
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Re: Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
Absolutely not and here is why.



Because what Jesus did was not only possible but it was VERY possible. To heal the sick with a touch ? Absolutely. To walk on water. Absolutely. To RISE from a brutal savage beating and left for "Dead" ....ABSOLUTELY.


there have always been a very very very very few human beings alive who knew/know the secrets and powers of life.


Just because most people today can't remember them (they are stored deep within us) doesn't mean they never existed or still don't exist.


JESUS CHRIST was a knower of the most ancient knowledge. I have no doubt about this.

The child of God ? Absolutely !

there are others.
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Jesus a 2,000 Year old Rumor? Rumors die out over time. TRUTH never fades away.
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Jesus a 2,000 Year old Rumor? Rumors die out over time. TRUTH never fades away.
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Because the truth about the CORRECT way to live is deep within us. Jesus was only one person who knew. Worship the knowledge not the individual Jesus Christ would want it like that. Know what is inside of you that is eternal and what truly powers you. It is beyond flesh and bone that is for sure. Soul power. Study it. You can move mountains.
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Re: Is Jesus a Made Up Story?
Ask out loud do you exist Jesus?

then give it some time..see what happens..

I believe in jesus..thats how my belief started..by asking.
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Ask out loud do you exist Jesus?

then give it some time..see what happens..

I believe in jesus..thats how my belief started..by asking.
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I believe in the things Jesus Christ knows/knew.

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