Satan's Horns, The Spaceships, The Beast

This is dangerous stuff you are peddling to yourself and others, in direct contradiction to the word of God. God clearly states there is no reincarnation, and Jesus mentions Hell more than a dozen times.

(Hebrews 9:27) "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"



The word of God does not say "it is all good."

(Romans 12:9) "Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."



I've never heard of these books. Why would Jesus Christ make it so difficult to have access to the truth? Could it be false doctrine being peddled by deceiving spirits?

Despite you saying otherwise, you clearly arbitrarily decide which parts of the word of God you like, and you choose to discard those you don't.

(Deuteronomy 4:2) "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

Dear truth ftw you said this: (Deuteronomy 4:2) "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

If that could be used to compare to that of which we speak, the new testament would never have been added because those words you quote were spoken WAY before Jesus walked here..."The spiritual powers that were" at that time would have not allowed the addition. But, obviously the new testament was added as new revelation by those who decided it should be.

Again I say, that is why trinity is Father/Son/Spirit NOT Father/Son/Scripture. And besides all that, if I as an individual am not to diminish that which is commanded, one of the things commanded to me was "DO NOT PUT THE HOLY SPIRIT IN A BOX"...

It is very difficult to give you the explanations you are expecting of me, because most of my knowledge has come from the material I have read in these 2 books, and other material I was led to. There are websites on line by which you yourself can explore these books. I do not follow scripture as you do, but my higher self which is the spark of my father within. My spirit is in alignment and I can only speak for myself because I have done the work within my soul/spirit to find that which did not make sense to me on a soul level.

Jesus and his father brought to us clarification with a better understanding of these times by which we live. Two thousand years ago, you must remember the people of that time had a different life style and their thinking and understanding in teachings was limited to some degree based on education of what they could comprehend at that time. Jesus taught according to their understanding and reasoning for the culture of that time.

Looking back you can see that the people of that time were not ready for even Jesus. His message went against the thinking of the rabbis and religion of that time, so much so that he had to be killed.

Today also most are not ready. All religions have become small corporations/governments onto themselves. They profit weekly by our donations and so any material coming fourth that challenges their teachings is condemned almost the same way Jesus was condemned.

I know much of what I have written is shocking to people, but I can only say that I had the courage through my guides to be open minded enough to seek and understand these new revelations of truth given. Many are not yet ready to accept or be open minded enough to explore and trust that guidance.

We are all energy and we continue to create and manifest through our desires and dreams, so that evolution is continuing to move forward. History tells us this, that our society is not what it was 200 hundred years ago. Well in God's kingdom there also is continuous evolution of his creations, and this is based on our soul's journey here and how mankind progresses on a spiritual journey. It is continuous evolved consciousness. Nothing is as it seems, and even predictions made 2000 years ago, are changed based on man's continuous consciousness and moving forward.

This is why the Urantia book and Phoenix books were given at this time, because mankind is now ready for these spiritual truths and can better comprehend the immense universe in which we come. Two thousand years ago it was based more on a physical thinking by which the people of that time could comprehend and understand in accordance with their education.

Jesus is within us all and until we align with him and the spirit of truth within and connect spiritually in all our thoughts, words, and actions we follow an outer religion and not the inner religion of his essence within us.

It is the fear of moving forward from which you have been taught God's word, that keeps you from exploring and discerning other material. Trust me you are not a bad person for trying to get answers and explore. In fact your angels and guides would jump at the chance to help you. When we let scripture overrule growing and learning and even questioning, we become frozen in a time warp. As long as you love God, nothing can take that from you. I can quote scripture until I am blue, but what really counts is how you serve God in your daily life, in kindness, love and compassion. You see it is the inner spiritual work that needs to be done, which we than manifest through our actions and deeds towards others.

This is the true message of Jesus to become just like him.

The Urantia book dwells more into this...the spiritual.

The Phoenix Journals dwells also on this, but includes how the dark cabals (Illuminati) have infiltrated and corrupted all world governments, media, religions,etc., and have literally kept us from learning and knowing the truth. These 2 books they have also tried to stop from being published.

This is where I am and that is really all I can share. I do not wish to go one to one with you quoting scripture. For it is within us that the real tough work begins. That is the real deal.

I would also like to add that I honor all beliefs. I admire those here that have the ability and memory to quote biblical verses. Your fortitude and faith is truly admirable. You are aligned with your father in your love for him, and that does not change in any way when your expand your consciousness in learning and understanding.
What comes back is an inner wisdom and understanding of greater things that you are now able to comprehend. Expansion of consciousness is knowledge which is available to all here. Just my 2 cents in hoping to share truths not known to many.

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Yes, even 100 years ago, much less 2000, the archeological findings that have been uncovered the last 50 years could have not even been made available to the common person. The internet in particular has brought us much knowledge that had been hidden for ages past. BUT, again, none of that...especially the hieroglyphics of extraterrestrial visitors discounts the TRULY spiritual aspect of our creator. They do, however, point out that some of the history recorded in writing 2000 years ago could be incorrect.

I wish I had read Chariot of the Gods. I did not when it came out and even thought the same things you, who discount the credibility of extraterrestrials being our friends and family, are thinking and posting. I was told that the author went into scripture to prove his points. Maybe we should all take a look at that if we have a chance. It might prove to be an eye opener.

Yes Dok I agree. Much coming out that was hidden in the past is because we were not yet ready for it. The internet is indeed a vehicle by which much can be shared all over the world.

I saw the movie Chariot of the Gods, but never read the book.
There is much to learn that is being revealed now, and I myself believe in ufo's, there is now too much out there and captured on film to deny.

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(2 Timothy 3:1-17)

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

Goodness, you haven't already passed judgement that I am involved in all those things which you highlighted have you? No/no/no....that's a No No! Men WILL know me by my fruit, but you have no idea what my fruit consists of. All you know is that I disagree with some of the stances that you take so dogmatically.

I certainly do agree that all scripture is given by "inspiration" of God. What I do not agree with is that it takes precedence over spiritual revelation out of the mouth of Jesus, or that it has never been tampered with or unable to contain any man's discrepancies.( Just for instance...the reason the KJ version came into being. You did know why that particular version was "written" didn't you? ) If the men who were "inspired" to write the new testament had believed that to the tee and without question/blindly following, they never would have been able to see and believe past the "inspired" old testament to accept the life and work of Jesus. But, they did not put the Spirit of Revelation and Truth in a box. THEY accepted the person of Jesus...going against "inspired" old testament.

I quote the Word while you post pictures of flowers and flap your gabber.

You disagree with the Word of God and are spreading dangerous false doctrine.

Remember, every knee shall bow.

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Would you have received what you refer to as "flapping my gabber" any better if I had quoted scripture? How about "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED"....I thought I said the same thing in a much more loving way. I even tried to lighten it with flowers...oh well, some days chickens/some days feathers.

My knees already bow...Jesus is my big brother and I love HIM with all my heart. I am sorry that you cannot love me the way I am, or at least it would appear that you might not. I do love you in the spiritual sense and know that Papa God loves us both. I do not disagree even one little bit with the living word of God, Jesus...even though there are some things,not all, that I disagree with you on. Maybe here is where we should just agree to disagree in those areas where we cannot. Surely we can agree on love your neighbor/brother as you love yourself. Even earthly siblings have disagreements.

BACK TO TOPIC: What I find most interesting is that you can find yourself in tune with Mary Baxter's book hook line and sinker when there are obvious references to extra terrestrials in the bible which were not presented as evil in any way.

I'll leave you with the Word:

(Mark 3:28-30) "Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:"

sorry its taken me awhile to get back with you, but I have had the flu..

I trust the Spirit of Truth that resides in me, over a written book yes. It is a wonderful History book.

My feelings and experience is the proof that I get personally from my Father above that what I do is between he and I, we all are responsible to carry out the personal relationship with the Father, from there he defines who you are!! You don't need to go to church on Sunday to be fed by some man to tell you what the Bible say's, that is being led by what man has organized.

And when I said stuiped behavior, that is what I meant, We have it within us that we can judge dumb and ignorant behavior. Like some teenagers, and so on, or people who do not change from the inside out prehaps? Or ones who use their words with no regard of another human being. Our Father is the One who passes judge's and many religions are about seperating than joining together.

[link to abundanthope.net]

check out the link. I have gotten my material from the Urantia book and phoenix journals they are at that site if you would like to start studying.

Truth the word of God is within each of us. Our Spiritual Family are alive and kicking so to speak. Everything we do during the day is watched, I gaurantee you we are watched when we use the restroom, They know what you do in your down time within your four walls, nothing is hidden.

Truth the people who put the bible together knew what they were doing. They knew at one time people will be so programmed to think and talk like a robot.... where is your own creativity? do you have it?

Do you get up everymorning and say Father what is it that you would have me do?

Father wants the real deal not the programmed thinking mind.

The people who wrote this matrix of Life, wants to keep the population from ascending moving up so to speak.


If you believe one min that Jesus died for your sins, you are in error, the drinking his blood and eating his body comes from the old testament, he did not die for our sins, we are responsible for our own sins....

Jesus Christ came to show us how to rise above DUALITY, and duo meaning, we are so programmed everything is about good bad , hot and cold, There is only ONE way to be!!! That is ONE with the FATHER. YOU and I being ONE with the FATHER...

There is NO good and evil, there is no right or wrong,
we are the ones who created all this mess we are in , from this polarity thinking.

I thought I would post a link showing ancient artwork and paintings showing spacecraft/starships depicted within the pieces of art themselves.

[link to www.dudeman.net]

Through out history it seems men and woman have seen these objects and may not have known completely what or who was in our skies, but clearly there is no doubt they saw something, and decided to incorporate it into their artwork.

To declare these beings be of evil only is truly not a reasoning conclusion. Anyone contemplating the universe can clearly see there is more to understand and know.

I myself am fascinated! The thought of them in our skies brings great joy not fear to me!!

Thanks dmfs...

Renaissance paintings also showed the same:

[link to www.bing.com]

[link to www.bing.com]

These were accepted and not fear producing for those of the time.

There is also a painting of George Washington with an UFO in the background sky...NOT a photo shopped internet hoax...a painting that hangs today.

These do not indicate the demonic not take away from the personal divinity of Jesus.

Have you suffered from serious abuse of any kind as a child, OP?

Not trying to be nasty, it's a serious question.

Would you like to know what I ate for breakfast today too? How about my shoe size?

This thread is not about me, read the original post and learn something important.

You won't answer the question? That's fair enough.

Just that you come across as a bit of a fanatic and i'm trying to figure out what's with that.

More or less for the benefit of the forum because you seem to cast a dark shadow over it.

A fanatic? I suppose that's true. I am a fanatic for Jesus and the truth. I want people to know the deceptions of satan so they don't fall for it.

Hmm, personally i think there's more to it than that.

Well, you're welcome to sit there and analyze me if you want, but you're better off analyzing Jesus because I can't save you.

In all seriousness and respect for all, I just want to know why Jesus/God lets Satan do all this damage and horror. Good beats evil. So why does Jesus let the Devil get so far? He has let the Devil reigned on the earth for all these years....but then he will stop him right? The great battle between Jesus and Satan? Armageddon? Will any humans witness this battle or will we all be in Heaven by then?
I know I may sound ignorant in some of this, but I am just asking questions. :)
Why did Satan even have to fall from Heaven in the first place! Since I was a child, I always wondered why didn't he just behave and listen to God. Why did he have to rebel?

Yeshua and the 12 Apostles and only them had the Authority of the Father .

So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. John 8:28

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Matthew 18:18

Also , notice Paul was not one of the original 12 . Make of that what you will .

Alex, what is "irony".

Very good find, this vid should be a thread on its own.

Also thanks for sharing Mary's experience. For some of her vids, as she recounts her experience, you see her eyes red and watery. Showing that this was a truly traumatic experience, while she experienced and saw hell. This helps to let us know, that she's legit and wasn't lying about the experience.

Disinformation from the dumbing down of believers.

God is omnipotent and all life is His Creation, including the people of Cosmic origin.