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Chevy Volt=Epic Fail

 
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in europe, the vw tdi gets 74mpg....but we cant even get 45mpg from a hybrid? somethings fishy here....
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BULLLLLSH*T!!!! thwak

Linky or you STINK!
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the VW "polo" gets 62mpg

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. naughty

...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg.

Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
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BULLLLLSH*T!!!! thwak

Linky or you STINK!
 Quoting: Burt Gummer



the VW "polo" gets 62mpg

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. naughty

...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg.

Care to try again??? popcorn smiley
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
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If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???

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If say 50% of American cars were electric...

You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in.

Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car.

Doesn't seem all the clean anymore.
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the VW "polo" gets 62mpg

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. naughty

...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg.

Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


It's a manufacturer website, dumbass! It's unfortunate that you've never traveled abroad. This type of gas mileage is fairly close to average. Considering the price of petrol is substantially higher than the states. Ive driven this sub-compact and it's fairly accurate. The car belongs to my cousin and she seemed amazed that we didn't have a similar car here considering our much longer commute.
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lmao
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bumpbumpbumpfor nobama
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the VW "polo" gets 62mpg

[link to www.volkswagen.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. naughty

...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg.

Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


bsflagto the whiny dumbass
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Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the
Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.
For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on
the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16
kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to
drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and
you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your
average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so
I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per
kwh.

16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the
Volt using the battery.
Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32
mpg.
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000.
So the Government wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs
more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive
across country



[link to video.foxnews.com]
 Quoting: train


ROFL! The volt is a fail, but you do NOT pay $1.16 per kwh. An absurdly high residential peak rate would be 16 CENTS per kwh.

All your maffs are belong to fail.
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That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. naughty

...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg.

Care to try again??? popcorn smiley
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


bsflagto the whiny dumbass
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Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim.
popcorn smiley

OR....


stfu


Legit linky...or you STINKY!

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If say 50% of American cars were electric...

You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in.

Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car.

Doesn't seem all the clean anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9352559


When people say this I just tell them I guess its cheaper and cleaner to power your house with a gas generator. It will take 20+ years to get 50% usage. Oil is going to be around for centuries but we are at the start of the change. Natural gas/propane will be powering our cars in the near term-what do you think all the fracking is for?
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Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


bsflagto the whiny dumbass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 285665


Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim.
:popcorn smiley:

OR....


stfu


Legit linky...or you STINKY!
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day.
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If say 50% of American cars were electric...

You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in.

Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car.

Doesn't seem all the clean anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9352559


When people say this I just tell them I guess its cheaper and cleaner to power your house with a gas generator. It will take 20+ years to get 50% usage. Oil is going to be around for centuries but we are at the start of the change. Natural gas/propane will be powering our cars in the near term-what do you think all the fracking is for?
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Very likely true by one method or another.
Natural gas / propane and coal fired power plants....or even converting the gases to HYDROGEN which is then used in the car directly with fuel cells or burned by and internal combustion engine.
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If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. thwak
Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS.

Furthermore....
Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS???
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


bsflagto the whiny dumbass
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 285665


Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim.
popcorn smiley

OR....


stfu


Legit linky...or you STINKY!
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day.
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No...I will not.
You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up.

Why you won't do it?
BECAUSE ITS............

bsmetar

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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
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A 1991 Geo Metro weighs 1700 lbs and were not very safe in accidents.

Also the catalytic converter needs raw hydrocarbons to burn hydrocarbons. Modern low emission cars need to dump hydrocarbons into the exhaust to keep the catalytic converter hot.

Basically you need gas to run the engine and gas to keep the converter hot.... this is why modern cars don't get as good mileage as older cars.

Sort of ironic... the green freaks want clean cars... but to make exhaust clean you need to burn more fuel.

The metro was "clean" back in '91 but today's standards are more strict.

Also folks are concerned about safety and demand 10 air bags and reinforced cabins. Modern little cars are heavy for their size.

In my opinion electric cars suck and will always suck. Buy a geo metro and save $$.
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bsflagto the whiny dumbass
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Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim.
:popcorn smiley:

OR....


stfu


Legit linky...or you STINKY!
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day.
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No...I will not.
You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up.

Why you won't do it?
BECAUSE ITS............

:bsmetar:
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It's not a bullshit claim....you wont even go unto the manufacturer website....What will be you're next excuse..."oh, I wont click Motor Trends website, the colour red attracts DEMONS into my router" LOL. I've given you the basic info, if you want to debate those claims then let's have dialog not this shit stirring diatribe. K?
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personally i drive a chevy tahoe.

nice big AMC hunk of junk.

lol

sorry chevy you had a few good makes and models.

but you are an epic fail in so many ways sometimes.
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Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim.
popcorn smiley

OR....


stfu


Legit linky...or you STINKY!
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379


No...I will not.
You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up.

Why you won't do it?
BECAUSE ITS............

bsmetar
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


It's not a bullshit claim....you wont even go unto the manufacturer website....What will be you're next excuse..."oh, I wont click Motor Trends website, the colour red attracts DEMONS into my router" LOL. I've given you the basic info, if you want to debate those claims then let's have dialog not this shit stirring diatribe. K?
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1) I went to the manufacture website....nothing there to see.

2) It's the MANUFACTURER WEBSITE.
You think any mileage numbers there are REAL WORLD NUMBERS??? 1rof1

norespect


Still BULLSH*T until you provide a LEGIT TEST LINK for a NON-MANUFACTURER source.
One that shows the cars get 74mpg and 62 mpg as claimed by tards like you.

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and they catch fire!! An taxpayers have to buy them back. After paying for them!!
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Its GM that says it all.
I know a few of the executives there, they are more focused on golfing and building luxury homes than cars. its an MBA run company, they don't give two shits about engineering, just bottom line.

FUCK GM
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who pays $1.16 per kwh??? here its lik .08 - .115....without credit check styled electricity highest i had was .279....so a dollar and 16 cents O_o...
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who pays $1.16 per kwh??? here its lik .08 - .115....without credit check styled electricity highest i had was .279....so a dollar and 16 cents O_o...
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My Chevy Aveo gets better mileage, 32mpg winter and 40mpg summer (yes more than the manufacturer claims, I hyper mile a lot).
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i fish we troll around for hours using 1 12v battery.1500 lbs.a boat is much less efficient than a vehicle on wheels,just look up how much gas an outboard can burn.since the downturn we use the electric motors far more than we used to.also have an old fireless loco on display in my town.since it worked in the stockyards it could not have a fire box due to the spark hazard,they charged it with steam and it would run six hours pulling live stock cars around the yards.it basically is a big thermos bottle on wheels.we have no will to change or adapt anymore.
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i fish we troll around for hours using 1 12v battery.1500 lbs.a boat is much less efficient than a vehicle on wheels,just look up how much gas an outboard can burn.since the downturn we use the electric motors far more than we used to.also have an old fireless loco on display in my town.since it worked in the stockyards it could not have a fire box due to the spark hazard,they charged it with steam and it would run six hours pulling live stock cars around the yards.it basically is a big thermos bottle on wheels.we have no will to change or adapt anymore.
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and they catch fire!! An taxpayers have to buy them back. After paying for them!!
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The cars that have caught fire did so after severe side impacts the NHTSA conducted DAYS after the crash and the determined there is no safety hazard. GM did a voluntary recall to quell any public doubt. Lots of cars catch fire all by themselves all the time. The car companies always go after to top company. Right now its GM, a year ago it was Toyota. Anyone remember something about a Toyota problem a year ago?
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


Once the manufacturers had figured out how to cut SOx and NOx emissions, they had to create a new problem so they decided the incredibly common gas CO2 is a poison!

Make enough constraints and the performance will be killed and complexity will approach infinity.
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Had a 200,000 mile dodge neon that got 40mpg. Now the engine was really loose with all those miles but 40mpg is better than some hybrids.

Big Oil won't let car manufacturers produce very good fuel efficient cars. The technology is there, but Big Oil pulls the strings.
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Notice how they try it out on a long range road trip.

What kind of ~DUMBASS~ buys an electric car for long range driving? They are for short around town errands. Like what if you live 4 flat, stop sign studded miles from your job?

The gas powered car will hardly be up to full opperating temperature by then. You might never get out of second gear. And out of the 15 minutes of "driving" time 10 minutes would be idling at stop lights. Your gas car would get about 10 mpg under those conditions while the electric one would have used about 25 cents worth of house current.

Basically OP, STFU.
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At least Hitler built a better car.



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