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Chevy Volt=Epic Fail

 
Anonymous Astrophysicist
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


In 1978 the Volkswagen diesel rabbit got 58 mpg on the highway and 40 in the city. It depended a lot on which way the wind was blowing literally as to whether you would achieve those numbers, but 50 to 55 was average in the highway in mine.

I have a full sized GMC flare side Sierra that I have placed a Toyota deliver panel trucks 4 cylinder engine/ transmission in it that gets 40 and sometime 45 mpg on the highway and does 0-60 in a reasonable 15 seconds with a 5 speed transmission. It will cruise easily at 80 but gets its best fuel efficiency at 60.

The guy that sold me the truck/engine told me it got about 30 mpg if you kept it under 50, so I am assuming the much more aerodynamic shape of the Serra , the weight reduction that came with getting rid of the huge v-8 and all it's trappings, and the modifications I did to the engine including concentrating and re-burning combustible emissions increasing it's efficiency. The weight reduction was such that I had to modify the front suspension because the vehicle rode to high in the front, but that was a matter of simply cutting the bottom out of the bottom a-arm and welding it in a lower position. I then lowered the back to match an intentional overcompensation, so the ground clearance to the center of the undercarriage is less but overall identical to the original , since it is actually the rear differential that determines actual ground clearance and that was unchanged.. I found the more level the vehicle was, the better mileage it got and it also has an air dam and ground effects. Using air shocks on the back with an on board compressor allows me to position the vehicles attitude for maximum fuel efficiency, which shows in real time on an on board laptop..

It also utilizes a centrifugal oxygen concentrator to maximize combustion efficiency without increasing the size of intake valves or air intake, and the engine was supercharged to begin with, making the acceleration reasonable .( A stock GMC Sierra goes 0-60 in under 7 seconds with a 305 v-8 but gets a miserable 17 mpg highway or 18 or so with the big 4.3 liter v-6) . With a 25 gallon tank I can fill it up with regular diesel fuel and not have to worry about filling it up again until the following month , usually. It actually gets better mileage on natural gas, which is cheap compared to diesel.

I have also connected the fuel and air induction systems to an on board laptop that makes the engine where it can burn anything combustible. The ONLY reason vehicles like this are not available on the market is because big oil doesn't want them to be, PERIOD.
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Oh yeah your gas powered cars get 30 - 40 MPG......

Between Oaklahoma City and Dallas.

Have you checked you mileage at the place you do most of your 'driving' ie at your local stoplight? What's your MPG measure there, ah negative infinity? It is so bad they don't even have a real number for it.
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


a 1967 toyota truck gave 125MPG hiway , 85 city, after the so called anty-smog devices it went down to 15 MPG !

that is ten times the carbon footprint ! How can we pulute less using 10 times more gas ?

Fuck goverment , make your own cars using ROTOVERTER electric turbines for 5,000 MPG super-hybrid cars!
use geet , use hydroxil use water injector fueled diesel engines , screw the banks, dont get loans, boicot music, movies, TV & news media supporting sopa , sapo, grapo & mandato !
Goverment wants you dead !
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02/21/2012 11:36 PM
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THERE WAS AN ELECTRIC CAR COMPANY IN THE USA IN 1890's THAT COMPETED WITH HENRY FORD

THE SHED WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND AND HE LOST ALL HIS BUSINESS

JOHN D ROCKEFELLER ALSO LOST A BOX OF MATCHES THAT DAY

ENOUGH SAID ??? ???
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OP is quoting Fox news? lol
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SO glad I didn't spend 40 grand on the volt and got a Japanese car instead ohno
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OPEC hates my roller-skates.. happydance
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Currently the Ford Fiesta Econetic does combined 3.7 litres (1 gallon) per 100 kms (60 miles I think?), and is the best on the Australian market. It's all internal combustion too, diesel.

[link to www.themotorreport.com.au]

I don't know why some Americans don't believe these kind of mileage cars really exist!

cruise
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


In 1978 the Volkswagen diesel rabbit got 58 mpg on the highway and 40 in the city. It depended a lot on which way the wind was blowing literally as to whether you would achieve those numbers, but 50 to 55 was average in the highway in mine.

I have a full sized GMC flare side Sierra that I have placed a Toyota deliver panel trucks 4 cylinder engine/ transmission in it that gets 40 and sometime 45 mpg on the highway and does 0-60 in a reasonable 15 seconds with a 5 speed transmission. It will cruise easily at 80 but gets its best fuel efficiency at 60.

The guy that sold me the truck/engine told me it got about 30 mpg if you kept it under 50, so I am assuming the much more aerodynamic shape of the Serra , the weight reduction that came with getting rid of the huge v-8 and all it's trappings, and the modifications I did to the engine including concentrating and re-burning combustible emissions increasing it's efficiency. The weight reduction was such that I had to modify the front suspension because the vehicle rode to high in the front, but that was a matter of simply cutting the bottom out of the bottom a-arm and welding it in a lower position. I then lowered the back to match an intentional overcompensation, so the ground clearance to the center of the undercarriage is less but overall identical to the original , since it is actually the rear differential that determines actual ground clearance and that was unchanged.. I found the more level the vehicle was, the better mileage it got and it also has an air dam and ground effects. Using air shocks on the back with an on board compressor allows me to position the vehicles attitude for maximum fuel efficiency, which shows in real time on an on board laptop..

It also utilizes a centrifugal oxygen concentrator to maximize combustion efficiency without increasing the size of intake valves or air intake, and the engine was supercharged to begin with, making the acceleration reasonable .( A stock GMC Sierra goes 0-60 in under 7 seconds with a 305 v-8 but gets a miserable 17 mpg highway or 18 or so with the big 4.3 liter v-6) . With a 25 gallon tank I can fill it up with regular diesel fuel and not have to worry about filling it up again until the following month , usually. It actually gets better mileage on natural gas, which is cheap compared to diesel.

I have also connected the fuel and air induction systems to an on board laptop that makes the engine where it can burn anything combustible. The ONLY reason vehicles like this are not available on the market is because big oil doesn't want them to be, PERIOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483



What no fuel cells or antigravity assist?

Maybe you could arrange to always be uphill from where you are driving to. However in the real word you buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pray it gets there at all.
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Oh yeah your gas powered cars get 30 - 40 MPG......

Between Oaklahoma City and Dallas.

Have you checked you mileage at the place you do most of your 'driving' ie at your local stoplight? What's your MPG measure there, ah negative infinity? It is so bad they don't even have a real number for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425


There is a solution to that , but again, it's a bit expensive in initial cost.. You can install a braking system that charges the battery when you apply the brakes and have the car simply cut off when it comes to a stop, like a golf car with a gas engine.

Again, the oil companies resist engineering like this intentionally.

I have actually had an oil company representative threaten me when I helped a friends young man on his science fair project and we built and displayed a sodium powered hybrid engine at middle school science fair, they cordoned it off so no one could get close enough to look at it at it and the information concerning how it worked.. They made comments like it would be a rolling bomb and even called the state police who came and examined it, claiming it was dangerous. I pointed out driving around on top of 25 gallons of gasoline was certainly no safer, and that the design was actually considerably safer, and though the machine was operational it was not fueled. We had a video showing it in operation including measuring energy out put and such.
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IF PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND BY NOW THAT THE WORLD IS RUN BY AN ELITE CABAL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL FRIENDS AND THEIR AGENDA IS TO RAPE YOUR MONEY

THEN YOU DONT UNDERSTAND MUCH

WE LIVE IN A MATRIX

JOHN D ROCKEFELLER WAS FUNDED BY THE ROTHSCHILDS TO TAKE OVER THE CRUDE OIL IN THE EARLY 1900'S AND HE WAS BEST BUDDIES WITH HENRY FORD

AND I WOULD BET 1000000000000000 THEY BURNT THE ELECTRIC GUYS SHED TO THE GROUND

PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THEY DONT LOOK BACK AT A MEASLEY 100 YEARS OF HISTORY

HUMANS ARE HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD. 100 YEARS IS ONLY 1 PERSONS LIFETIME FOR SOME

WAKE THE FUCK UP

THE ELITE CABAL WANT TO RAPE YOUR ASS AND LEAVE YOU BROKE WHILE THEY FLY G650 JETS AND EAT CAVIAR
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02/21/2012 11:52 PM
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


In 1978 the Volkswagen diesel rabbit got 58 mpg on the highway and 40 in the city. It depended a lot on which way the wind was blowing literally as to whether you would achieve those numbers, but 50 to 55 was average in the highway in mine.

I have a full sized GMC flare side Sierra that I have placed a Toyota deliver panel trucks 4 cylinder engine/ transmission in it that gets 40 and sometime 45 mpg on the highway and does 0-60 in a reasonable 15 seconds with a 5 speed transmission. It will cruise easily at 80 but gets its best fuel efficiency at 60.

The guy that sold me the truck/engine told me it got about 30 mpg if you kept it under 50, so I am assuming the much more aerodynamic shape of the Serra , the weight reduction that came with getting rid of the huge v-8 and all it's trappings, and the modifications I did to the engine including concentrating and re-burning combustible emissions increasing it's efficiency. The weight reduction was such that I had to modify the front suspension because the vehicle rode to high in the front, but that was a matter of simply cutting the bottom out of the bottom a-arm and welding it in a lower position. I then lowered the back to match an intentional overcompensation, so the ground clearance to the center of the undercarriage is less but overall identical to the original , since it is actually the rear differential that determines actual ground clearance and that was unchanged.. I found the more level the vehicle was, the better mileage it got and it also has an air dam and ground effects. Using air shocks on the back with an on board compressor allows me to position the vehicles attitude for maximum fuel efficiency, which shows in real time on an on board laptop..

It also utilizes a centrifugal oxygen concentrator to maximize combustion efficiency without increasing the size of intake valves or air intake, and the engine was supercharged to begin with, making the acceleration reasonable .( A stock GMC Sierra goes 0-60 in under 7 seconds with a 305 v-8 but gets a miserable 17 mpg highway or 18 or so with the big 4.3 liter v-6) . With a 25 gallon tank I can fill it up with regular diesel fuel and not have to worry about filling it up again until the following month , usually. It actually gets better mileage on natural gas, which is cheap compared to diesel.

I have also connected the fuel and air induction systems to an on board laptop that makes the engine where it can burn anything combustible. The ONLY reason vehicles like this are not available on the market is because big oil doesn't want them to be, PERIOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483



What no fuel cells or antigravity assist?

Maybe you could arrange to always be uphill from where you are driving to. However in the real word you buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pray it gets there at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425

I'm not sure I understand you 'opinion', but no, you don't buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pay a dollar every 3 miles to drive if you've got any sense at all. I am assuming by your derogatory remarks you are offended by my intelligence or work for an oil company, or am I your assignment for tonight?
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NEW VEHICLES ARE A SCAM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS

THEY MAKE THEM HEAVIER AND HEAVIER WITH HEAVIER BIGGER WHEELS AND TIRES ON PURPOSE TO USE MORE FUEL THEN CREATE BETTER TECHNOLOGY TO PEG SOME OF THE FUEL USE BACK

IF YOU BUY AN EXPENSIVE NEW CAR TO SHOW OFF TO THE NEIGHBOURS AND YOUR NOT RICH ENOUGH THAT THE BANK PAID FOR IT WITH INTEREST, THEN YOU ARE A SHEEP FEEDING THE ELITE CABAL AND THEY LAUGH AT YOU
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GET ANY NEW CAR

TUNE THE COMPUTER

AND YOU CAN DROP THE MPG SUBSTANTIALLY

THEY PISS FUEL IN TO COOL THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, ANOTHER SCAM!!!!!!!

SCAM SCAM SCAM

THE BANKERS AND OIL BARONS PISS THEMSELVES AT ALL OF US, AND YOU HAD BETTER FUCKEN BELIEVE IT
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Oh yeah your gas powered cars get 30 - 40 MPG......

Between Oaklahoma City and Dallas.

Have you checked you mileage at the place you do most of your 'driving' ie at your local stoplight? What's your MPG measure there, ah negative infinity? It is so bad they don't even have a real number for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425


There is a solution to that , but again, it's a bit expensive in initial cost.. You can install a braking system that charges the battery when you apply the brakes and have the car simply cut off when it comes to a stop, like a golf car with a gas engine.

Again, the oil companies resist engineering like this intentionally.

I have actually had an oil company representative threaten me when I helped a friends young man on his science fair project and we built and displayed a sodium powered hybrid engine at middle school science fair, they cordoned it off so no one could get close enough to look at it at it and the information concerning how it worked.. They made comments like it would be a rolling bomb and even called the state police who came and examined it, claiming it was dangerous. I pointed out driving around on top of 25 gallons of gasoline was certainly no safer, and that the design was actually considerably safer, and though the machine was operational it was not fueled. We had a video showing it in operation including measuring energy out put and such.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483


That's all well and good and I am glad you are doing something in this field. I'm mainly commenting on OPs original post where the reporter queered up the test parameters to make a good concept look like shit - on purpose.
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ALL OF US MORONS CHEWING THEIR PETROCHEMICALS IS WHAT HAS ELEVATED THE ELITE CABAL TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS NEW WORLD ORDER UPON US

WE HAVE FED THEIR SYSTEM AND MADE THEM KINGS OF THE WORLD

ALL MAJOR CORPORATIONS ARE ALL OWNED BY THE SAME ELITE

THEY HIDE THEIR NAMES BY HIDING COMPANIES BEHIND COMPANIES AS SHARE HOLDERS

YOU HAVE ALL BEEN FOOLED

A HANDFUL OF FAMILIES RUN THE ENTIRE WORLD

ALL THE GOVERNMENTS ARE MERELY PUPPET SHOWS FOR THESE ELITE FAMILIES TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE IT IS A DEMOCRACY, WHEN INFACT THERE IS NO SUCH THING
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how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better.

a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology.

its all bullshit.
 Quoting: theCOOCH


In 1978 the Volkswagen diesel rabbit got 58 mpg on the highway and 40 in the city. It depended a lot on which way the wind was blowing literally as to whether you would achieve those numbers, but 50 to 55 was average in the highway in mine.

I have a full sized GMC flare side Sierra that I have placed a Toyota deliver panel trucks 4 cylinder engine/ transmission in it that gets 40 and sometime 45 mpg on the highway and does 0-60 in a reasonable 15 seconds with a 5 speed transmission. It will cruise easily at 80 but gets its best fuel efficiency at 60.

The guy that sold me the truck/engine told me it got about 30 mpg if you kept it under 50, so I am assuming the much more aerodynamic shape of the Serra , the weight reduction that came with getting rid of the huge v-8 and all it's trappings, and the modifications I did to the engine including concentrating and re-burning combustible emissions increasing it's efficiency. The weight reduction was such that I had to modify the front suspension because the vehicle rode to high in the front, but that was a matter of simply cutting the bottom out of the bottom a-arm and welding it in a lower position. I then lowered the back to match an intentional overcompensation, so the ground clearance to the center of the undercarriage is less but overall identical to the original , since it is actually the rear differential that determines actual ground clearance and that was unchanged.. I found the more level the vehicle was, the better mileage it got and it also has an air dam and ground effects. Using air shocks on the back with an on board compressor allows me to position the vehicles attitude for maximum fuel efficiency, which shows in real time on an on board laptop..

It also utilizes a centrifugal oxygen concentrator to maximize combustion efficiency without increasing the size of intake valves or air intake, and the engine was supercharged to begin with, making the acceleration reasonable .( A stock GMC Sierra goes 0-60 in under 7 seconds with a 305 v-8 but gets a miserable 17 mpg highway or 18 or so with the big 4.3 liter v-6) . With a 25 gallon tank I can fill it up with regular diesel fuel and not have to worry about filling it up again until the following month , usually. It actually gets better mileage on natural gas, which is cheap compared to diesel.

I have also connected the fuel and air induction systems to an on board laptop that makes the engine where it can burn anything combustible. The ONLY reason vehicles like this are not available on the market is because big oil doesn't want them to be, PERIOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483



What no fuel cells or antigravity assist?

Maybe you could arrange to always be uphill from where you are driving to. However in the real word you buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pray it gets there at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425

I'm not sure I understand you 'opinion', but no, you don't buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pay a dollar every 3 miles to drive if you've got any sense at all. I am assuming by your derogatory remarks you are offended by my intelligence or work for an oil company, or am I your assignment for tonight?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483




He doesn't which of the screwdriver to use. People who can re-engineer or fix stuff down to the component level are in short supply nowadays.

Drive on brother. I think you've done an outstanding job. This is a post worthy of a couple of car forums that I go onto
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AND THE CHEVY VOLT IS A PIECE OF JUNK ON PURPOSE

THEY PLAY 'PRETEND ENVIRONMENTALIST' TO FOOL EVERYONE WHEN IN FACT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE SUCKING OUT CRUDE OIL

PETROCHEMICALS AND BANKING IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED THESE ELITE FAMILIES TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD

YOU USE THEIR GAS. YOU LOAN THEIR MONEY. THEN THEY OWN YOUR ASSHOLE
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ALL OF US MORONS CHEWING THEIR PETROCHEMICALS IS WHAT HAS ELEVATED THE ELITE CABAL TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS NEW WORLD ORDER UPON US

WE HAVE FED THEIR SYSTEM AND MADE THEM KINGS OF THE WORLD

ALL MAJOR CORPORATIONS ARE ALL OWNED BY THE SAME ELITE

THEY HIDE THEIR NAMES BY HIDING COMPANIES BEHIND COMPANIES AS SHARE HOLDERS

YOU HAVE ALL BEEN FOOLED

A HANDFUL OF FAMILIES RUN THE ENTIRE WORLD

ALL THE GOVERNMENTS ARE MERELY PUPPET SHOWS FOR THESE ELITE FAMILIES TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE IT IS A DEMOCRACY, WHEN INFACT THERE IS NO SUCH THING
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938



They have found a way to re-instate the feudal system. You have to be smarter than the machine
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AND THE CHEVY VOLT IS A PIECE OF JUNK ON PURPOSE

THEY PLAY 'PRETEND ENVIRONMENTALIST' TO FOOL EVERYONE WHEN IN FACT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE SUCKING OUT CRUDE OIL

PETROCHEMICALS AND BANKING IS WHAT HAS ALLOWED THESE ELITE FAMILIES TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD

YOU USE THEIR GAS. YOU LOAN THEIR MONEY. THEN THEY OWN YOUR ASSHOLE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938



A little 'hillbilly engineering' and it will be fine.

Unfortunately for us, it will probably be a Chinese hillbilly
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I have not owned American car, over 25 years...they were pos back, then and still are today.
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[link to www.ecogeek.org]
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NEW VEHICLES ARE A SCAM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS

THEY MAKE THEM HEAVIER AND HEAVIER WITH HEAVIER BIGGER WHEELS AND TIRES ON PURPOSE TO USE MORE FUEL THEN CREATE BETTER TECHNOLOGY TO PEG SOME OF THE FUEL USE BACK

IF YOU BUY AN EXPENSIVE NEW CAR TO SHOW OFF TO THE NEIGHBOURS AND YOUR NOT RICH ENOUGH THAT THE BANK PAID FOR IT WITH INTEREST, THEN YOU ARE A SHEEP FEEDING THE ELITE CABAL AND THEY LAUGH AT YOU
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938


Bingo. First they run us out of fuel on purpose, then they blame it on us and want to Agenda 21 our asses because *we* waste too many resourses.

The fact that they run it both ways proves they are lying evil mutherfuckers to the core.
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Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the
Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.
For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on
the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16
kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to
drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and
you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your
average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so
I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per
kwh.

16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the
Volt using the battery.
Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32
mpg.
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000.
So the Government wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs
more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive
across country



[link to video.foxnews.com]
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Epic Fail? Depends on your perspective. Epic win for the recipients of the money from Bernanke's Epic Epicopter. Oh, if you are the one making the chevy volt and you dont have to be the one buying or driving it, its epic win. Try to look at the bright side. All you have to do is completely ignore the bad, and pretend it does not exist. If the bad becomes so bad, that you can't ignore it, just lie about it and it will get better. If the lie gets discovered, ridicule and use the media to spin it into something that appears to be good. And we all know that all that matters is appearances. Especially campaign ones.
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There is no reason whatsoever that with the resources the auto manufacturers have in research and development that mid sized vehicles that get 100mpg of gasoline should not be commonly available and the industry standard. It is a fact the oil companies and vehicle manufacturers work together to make sure there is no such vehicle available, and it is all about selfish greed. What is ironic about it is that the parasite is killing the host.

I hope they rot in hell.
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In 1978 the Volkswagen diesel rabbit got 58 mpg on the highway and 40 in the city. It depended a lot on which way the wind was blowing literally as to whether you would achieve those numbers, but 50 to 55 was average in the highway in mine.

I have a full sized GMC flare side Sierra that I have placed a Toyota deliver panel trucks 4 cylinder engine/ transmission in it that gets 40 and sometime 45 mpg on the highway and does 0-60 in a reasonable 15 seconds with a 5 speed transmission. It will cruise easily at 80 but gets its best fuel efficiency at 60.

The guy that sold me the truck/engine told me it got about 30 mpg if you kept it under 50, so I am assuming the much more aerodynamic shape of the Serra , the weight reduction that came with getting rid of the huge v-8 and all it's trappings, and the modifications I did to the engine including concentrating and re-burning combustible emissions increasing it's efficiency. The weight reduction was such that I had to modify the front suspension because the vehicle rode to high in the front, but that was a matter of simply cutting the bottom out of the bottom a-arm and welding it in a lower position. I then lowered the back to match an intentional overcompensation, so the ground clearance to the center of the undercarriage is less but overall identical to the original , since it is actually the rear differential that determines actual ground clearance and that was unchanged.. I found the more level the vehicle was, the better mileage it got and it also has an air dam and ground effects. Using air shocks on the back with an on board compressor allows me to position the vehicles attitude for maximum fuel efficiency, which shows in real time on an on board laptop..

It also utilizes a centrifugal oxygen concentrator to maximize combustion efficiency without increasing the size of intake valves or air intake, and the engine was supercharged to begin with, making the acceleration reasonable .( A stock GMC Sierra goes 0-60 in under 7 seconds with a 305 v-8 but gets a miserable 17 mpg highway or 18 or so with the big 4.3 liter v-6) . With a 25 gallon tank I can fill it up with regular diesel fuel and not have to worry about filling it up again until the following month , usually. It actually gets better mileage on natural gas, which is cheap compared to diesel.

I have also connected the fuel and air induction systems to an on board laptop that makes the engine where it can burn anything combustible. The ONLY reason vehicles like this are not available on the market is because big oil doesn't want them to be, PERIOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194483



What no fuel cells or antigravity assist?

Maybe you could arrange to always be uphill from where you are driving to. However in the real word you buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pray it gets there at all.
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I'm not sure I understand you 'opinion', but no, you don't buy a 1000 dollar hunk of junk and pay a dollar every 3 miles to drive if you've got any sense at all. I am assuming by your derogatory remarks you are offended by my intelligence or work for an oil company, or am I your assignment for tonight?
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He doesn't which of the screwdriver to use. People who can re-engineer or fix stuff down to the component level are in short supply nowadays.

Drive on brother. I think you've done an outstanding job. This is a post worthy of a couple of car forums that I go onto
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I got everything I needed out the junkyard or made it myslef. there is not voodoo science involved. I am certain with 100,000 dollars to invest I could make the same truck go 0-60 in ten seconds and get over 75mpg
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Re: Chevy Volt=Epic Fail
NEW VEHICLES ARE A SCAM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS

THEY MAKE THEM HEAVIER AND HEAVIER WITH HEAVIER BIGGER WHEELS AND TIRES ON PURPOSE TO USE MORE FUEL THEN CREATE BETTER TECHNOLOGY TO PEG SOME OF THE FUEL USE BACK

IF YOU BUY AN EXPENSIVE NEW CAR TO SHOW OFF TO THE NEIGHBOURS AND YOUR NOT RICH ENOUGH THAT THE BANK PAID FOR IT WITH INTEREST, THEN YOU ARE A SHEEP FEEDING THE ELITE CABAL AND THEY LAUGH AT YOU
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Bingo. First they run us out of fuel on purpose, then they blame it on us and want to Agenda 21 our asses because *we* waste too many resourses.

The fact that they run it both ways proves they are lying evil mutherfuckers to the core.
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EXACTLY. THE SO CALLED ENVIRONMENT MOVEMENT IS BEING PERPETRATED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MINE CRUDE OIL

THESE ELITE ARE TOO SMART FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON

THEY USED US ALL TO ELEVATE THEIR OWN WEALTH AND POWER, NOW THEY OWN EARTH

AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE BROKE USING THE "ENVIRONMENT" AS AN EXCUSE

THEIR SCAMS KNOW NO BOUNDARIES

IT IS ALMOST COMICAL TO SEE WHAT LIES IN PLAIN SIGHT, AND SEE 6 BILLION SHEEP WHO ARE BLIND
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Re: Chevy Volt=Epic Fail
Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the
Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.
For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on
the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16
kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to
drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and
you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your
average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so
I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per
kwh.

16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the
Volt using the battery.
Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32
mpg.
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000.
So the Government wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs
more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive
across country



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 Quoting: train


Epic Fail? Depends on your perspective. Epic win for the recipients of the money from Bernanke's Epic Epicopter. Oh, if you are the one making the chevy volt and you dont have to be the one buying or driving it, its epic win. Try to look at the bright side. All you have to do is completely ignore the bad, and pretend it does not exist. If the bad becomes so bad, that you can't ignore it, just lie about it and it will get better. If the lie gets discovered, ridicule and use the media to spin it into something that appears to be good. And we all know that all that matters is appearances. Especially campaign ones.
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I came up with an idea for a solar powered vehicle that uses dielectric paint to charge the batteries and comes with a stationary solar array that could be used to put the initial and main charge to the lithium based batteries. The dielectric paint would make the entire vehicle a solar array, charging the batteries while it was moving or sitting still. The initial cost would be near 40 -50 thousand dollars, the excess pricing over traditionally powered vehicles would be regained in 5 years of driving and the lifespan of the design would be at least 20 years...The one drawback of course is if there is a spell of cloudy weather you would have to use tradition methods to charge it, but on certain climates it would reduce operational costs to pennies. There are literally dozens of ideals like this that are suppressed by oil companies. The Volt is intentionally a bad idea, to make people give up on the ideas of hybrid vehicles.
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NEW VEHICLES ARE A SCAM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425


EXACTLY. THE SO CALLED ENVIRONMENT MOVEMENT IS BEING PERPETRATED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MINE CRUDE OIL

THESE ELITE ARE TOO SMART FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON

THEY USED US ALL TO ELEVATE THEIR OWN WEALTH AND POWER, NOW THEY OWN EARTH

AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE BROKE USING THE "ENVIRONMENT" AS AN EXCUSE

THEIR SCAMS KNOW NO BOUNDARIES

IT IS ALMOST COMICAL TO SEE WHAT LIES IN PLAIN SIGHT, AND SEE 6 BILLION SHEEP WHO ARE BLIND
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938



Ok, ok we get the picture. You wana get off the caps lock before the hear us and send out the goon squad?cruise
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NEW VEHICLES ARE A SCAM OF EPIC PROPORTIONS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425


EXACTLY. THE SO CALLED ENVIRONMENT MOVEMENT IS BEING PERPETRATED BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO MINE CRUDE OIL

THESE ELITE ARE TOO SMART FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON

THEY USED US ALL TO ELEVATE THEIR OWN WEALTH AND POWER, NOW THEY OWN EARTH

AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE EVERYONE BROKE USING THE "ENVIRONMENT" AS AN EXCUSE

THEIR SCAMS KNOW NO BOUNDARIES

IT IS ALMOST COMICAL TO SEE WHAT LIES IN PLAIN SIGHT, AND SEE 6 BILLION SHEEP WHO ARE BLIND
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11246938



Ok, ok we get the picture. You wana get off the caps lock before the hear us and send out the goon squad?cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9704425


IM NOT ON CAPSLOCK. I HOLD THE SHIFT BUTTON cruise





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