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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8345379 United States 02/21/2012 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379 in europe, the vw tdi gets 74mpg....but we cant even get 45mpg from a hybrid? somethings fishy here.... BULLLLLSH*T!!!! Linky or you STINK! the VW "polo" gets 62mpg [link to www.volkswagen.co.uk] That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. ...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg. Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley: Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/21/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379 That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. ...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg. Care to try again??? Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/21/2012 09:39 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9352559 United States 02/21/2012 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If say 50% of American cars were electric... You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in. Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car. Doesn't seem all the clean anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8345379 United States 02/21/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. ...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg. Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley: Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? It's a manufacturer website, dumbass! It's unfortunate that you've never traveled abroad. This type of gas mileage is fairly close to average. Considering the price of petrol is substantially higher than the states. Ive driven this sub-compact and it's fairly accurate. The car belongs to my cousin and she seemed amazed that we didn't have a similar car here considering our much longer commute. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 285665 United States 02/21/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. ...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg. Care to try again??? :popcorn smiley: Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? to the whiny dumbass |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10934042 United States 02/21/2012 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cost to operate a Chevy Volt Quoting: train Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile. The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So the Government wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country [link to video.foxnews.com] ROFL! The volt is a fail, but you do NOT pay $1.16 per kwh. An absurdly high residential peak rate would be 16 CENTS per kwh. All your maffs are belong to fail. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/21/2012 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer That's not the 74mpg claimed earlier. ...nor do I see a link for anything that says that thing does even 62mpg. Care to try again??? Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? to the whiny dumbass Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim. OR.... Legit linky...or you STINKY! Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/21/2012 09:58 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1612386 United States 02/21/2012 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If say 50% of American cars were electric... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9352559 You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in. Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car. Doesn't seem all the clean anymore. When people say this I just tell them I guess its cheaper and cleaner to power your house with a gas generator. It will take 20+ years to get 50% usage. Oil is going to be around for centuries but we are at the start of the change. Natural gas/propane will be powering our cars in the near term-what do you think all the fracking is for? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8345379 United States 02/21/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8345379 Click the link...genuis,lol...then look at the third column that states "1.485 ps" under 'fuel consumption...damn lazy americans....you cant even read a simple chart. 62mpg is estimated. Ive driven one and the trip computer averaged 71mpg for the trip. close enough, sir. If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? to the whiny dumbass Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim. :popcorn smiley: OR.... Legit linky...or you STINKY! You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/21/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If say 50% of American cars were electric... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9352559 You would have to seriously upgrade our infrastructure to carry the juice to charge that many cars when they came home to be plugged in. Oil would still be burned to produce the electricity used to charge the car. Doesn't seem all the clean anymore. When people say this I just tell them I guess its cheaper and cleaner to power your house with a gas generator. It will take 20+ years to get 50% usage. Oil is going to be around for centuries but we are at the start of the change. Natural gas/propane will be powering our cars in the near term-what do you think all the fracking is for? Very likely true by one method or another. Natural gas / propane and coal fired power plants....or even converting the gases to HYDROGEN which is then used in the car directly with fuel cells or burned by and internal combustion engine. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/21/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer If it's Flashed based....I won't see it dipstick. Flash is full of viruses....GENIUS. Furthermore.... Got a legit link testing it???.... and not one with alleged manufacturer based CLAIMS??? to the whiny dumbass Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim. OR.... Legit linky...or you STINKY! You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day. No...I will not. You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up. Why you won't do it? BECAUSE ITS............ Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/21/2012 10:08 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 02/21/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better. Quoting: theCOOCH a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology. its all bullshit. A 1991 Geo Metro weighs 1700 lbs and were not very safe in accidents. Also the catalytic converter needs raw hydrocarbons to burn hydrocarbons. Modern low emission cars need to dump hydrocarbons into the exhaust to keep the catalytic converter hot. Basically you need gas to run the engine and gas to keep the converter hot.... this is why modern cars don't get as good mileage as older cars. Sort of ironic... the green freaks want clean cars... but to make exhaust clean you need to burn more fuel. The metro was "clean" back in '91 but today's standards are more strict. Also folks are concerned about safety and demand 10 air bags and reinforced cabins. Modern little cars are heavy for their size. In my opinion electric cars suck and will always suck. Buy a geo metro and save $$. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8345379 United States 02/21/2012 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim. :popcorn smiley: OR.... Legit linky...or you STINKY! You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day. No...I will not. You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up. Why you won't do it? BECAUSE ITS............ :bsmetar: It's not a bullshit claim....you wont even go unto the manufacturer website....What will be you're next excuse..."oh, I wont click Motor Trends website, the colour red attracts DEMONS into my router" LOL. I've given you the basic info, if you want to debate those claims then let's have dialog not this shit stirring diatribe. K? |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 02/21/2012 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer Provide a NON-MANUFACTURER based test to back up the 74mpg or 62 mpg claim. OR.... Legit linky...or you STINKY! You do the research, sir. Ive given you the manufacturer website and my personal experience driving the bloody thing! You wont even go unto the official website because you presume it's full of phantom viruses, lol! Honestly??? Pffft. shit stirrers can take a hike. Good day. No...I will not. You made the BULLSH*T CLAIM....now YOU back it up. Why you won't do it? BECAUSE ITS............ It's not a bullshit claim....you wont even go unto the manufacturer website....What will be you're next excuse..."oh, I wont click Motor Trends website, the colour red attracts DEMONS into my router" LOL. I've given you the basic info, if you want to debate those claims then let's have dialog not this shit stirring diatribe. K? 1) I went to the manufacture website....nothing there to see. 2) It's the MANUFACTURER WEBSITE. You think any mileage numbers there are REAL WORLD NUMBERS??? Still BULLSH*T until you provide a LEGIT TEST LINK for a NON-MANUFACTURER source. One that shows the cars get 74mpg and 62 mpg as claimed by tards like you. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/21/2012 10:20 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10869824 United States 02/21/2012 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i fish we troll around for hours using 1 12v battery.1500 lbs.a boat is much less efficient than a vehicle on wheels,just look up how much gas an outboard can burn.since the downturn we use the electric motors far more than we used to.also have an old fireless loco on display in my town.since it worked in the stockyards it could not have a fire box due to the spark hazard,they charged it with steam and it would run six hours pulling live stock cars around the yards.it basically is a big thermos bottle on wheels.we have no will to change or adapt anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10869824 United States 02/21/2012 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i fish we troll around for hours using 1 12v battery.1500 lbs.a boat is much less efficient than a vehicle on wheels,just look up how much gas an outboard can burn.since the downturn we use the electric motors far more than we used to.also have an old fireless loco on display in my town.since it worked in the stockyards it could not have a fire box due to the spark hazard,they charged it with steam and it would run six hours pulling live stock cars around the yards.it basically is a big thermos bottle on wheels.we have no will to change or adapt anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1612386 United States 02/21/2012 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and they catch fire!! An taxpayers have to buy them back. After paying for them!! Quoting: ChuckE 8166135 The cars that have caught fire did so after severe side impacts the NHTSA conducted DAYS after the crash and the determined there is no safety hazard. GM did a voluntary recall to quell any public doubt. Lots of cars catch fire all by themselves all the time. The car companies always go after to top company. Right now its GM, a year ago it was Toyota. Anyone remember something about a Toyota problem a year ago? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4596203 United States 02/21/2012 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how about the smart car? it gets a whopping 40mpgs..............for a microcar thats pathetic. i bet the new fiats dont do any better. Quoting: theCOOCH a 1991 geo metro gets 50+ mpg, no fancy hybrid bullshit, 20 year+ old technology. its all bullshit. Once the manufacturers had figured out how to cut SOx and NOx emissions, they had to create a new problem so they decided the incredibly common gas CO2 is a poison! Make enough constraints and the performance will be killed and complexity will approach infinity. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9704425 United States 02/21/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Notice how they try it out on a long range road trip. What kind of ~DUMBASS~ buys an electric car for long range driving? They are for short around town errands. Like what if you live 4 flat, stop sign studded miles from your job? The gas powered car will hardly be up to full opperating temperature by then. You might never get out of second gear. And out of the 15 minutes of "driving" time 10 minutes would be idling at stop lights. Your gas car would get about 10 mpg under those conditions while the electric one would have used about 25 cents worth of house current. Basically OP, STFU. |
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