Narcissistic Personality Disorder - does anyone else have a family member...

oh yes. Aren't they just the best?



Can't decide if it's narcisism or psychopathy. Probably the latter.

what do you think is the difference??

i have a boss who has a narcisstic personality

psychopaths have narcissistic traits. Not all with NPD are psychopaths.

They do suffer to an extent because they wind up isolating themselves with their own personality disorder. PDs don't go away though except the possibility of going away with age. Not all people overcome them though.

I am not sure, please describe the behavior of someone with NPD.

what does this mean?They do suffer to an extent because they wind up isolating themselves with their own personality disorder

It means that the person with the NPD is suffering too! Not just the family.

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Yes. My Grandfather has NPD. Today was his 89th birthday. He is incredibly selfish and self-righteous, among other things, and is no joy to be around. He thinks he's wonderful, generous, extremely likable, and the best Christian that's walked the land since Jesus. He is the opposite of all those things.

When dealing with NPD (or Borderline people), although difficult, it's best to walk away. These people will never change and cause much chaos and grief.

I'm sorry to hear that you're dealing with this, too. I wish I could tell you it will get better, but it doesn't. If you're not able to distance yourself from your sister, it's important that you set up VERY CLEAR boundaries with her.

Read reviews on Amazon to find a good book on how to deal with NPD people. There are some good tactics that you may find helpful. However, what frankly pisses me off is that we're the ones that have to change our behavior around these people because they won't change. That makes me angry.

Good luck and hugs

Don't walk. Run.

You will never win

Truly

If u try to love and reason with anyone with this disorder you will still in their minds be the "bad guy". You could bend over and spit diamonds and it will never be good enough

If u cut them off completely ...you will be painted as the bad guy and slandered to anyone who will listen but u atleast have chance at sanity.

Best advice ...leave. if u choose to remain in relationship document every incident. Otherwise u will feel like the insane one. And the borderline narc will convince others you are. They are masters of manipulation.

One way (very dangerous) to protect yourself is to either video or tape record them. Their biggest fear is exposure and accountability. This however could facilitate a potential psychotic break.

Facebook is a good example: Generally if someone talks about themselves a lot, or has a lot of pictures of themselves on their profile, or turns the conversation towards themselves- they have a narcissistic personality.

Psychopathy is somewhat different- Psychopathy is a total disregard for someone's suffering, especially within the family, causing suffering to others or other animals, or having a manipulative, deceitful personality.

This is the truth: Run away and don't look back. I had an encounter with one and it took all the strength I had to cut all ties and remove myself from their manipulative behavior. I tried for too long to reason with them and tried to be motherly and a mentor. Their only goal is to play you and have you believe they will change - all the while they tell you how much of a Christian they are while they laugh at you behind your back. I was glad to have awoken before too much damage was done. One of the first signs is someone who is extremely charming... Don't fall for it, they have deep seeded problems.

I would think that would be 1/2 the posters on GLP.

Run VERY FAST!!!

Unfortunately a close friend is going through this with her brother. He can't handle criticism and anyone who won't live the imaginary world of how perfect he is, thinks innocent comments are attacks on him, reads into everything and cuts people off because he thinks they are against him. Has no heart except for that which he "owns" if you know what I mean. If he controls it, he can (sort of) love it, if people are their own person he fears them, etc. He is a rather ugly person.

My husband went through this with two of his cousins, brothers, they won't speak to each other because their narcissm clashes so epicly.

I believe there is a genetic predisposition for this disease, but I also believe a false-disorder version of it can arise from the way people are being raised these days. The spoiling, the lack of trust in their parents and society can turn a person inward and only feel for themself and they build a fantasy persona to increase their very lacking self-confidence. The latter version is undetectable from the former because the outward expression people notice is identical.

The only hope is that although one is immune to love, the other can be improved by it.

My brother. For moments, when he wants something, he can be the most charming person, but then he will stab you on the back given the chance. It's really hard to deal with him, because you never know when he's lying or telling the truth. We can't trust him. It's really sad, because he's only 23 y.o and still a long way to go in life. He has already 2 kids, had been married but then left his wife and kids. A total asshole, as people would call him. He always find his way to get into trouble, and can be abbusive, verbally and even physically (we got into a sour fight once for a stupid thing he made and we almost went to the fists, but luckily my fiance was there so he stopped us and then he apologized). But apart from that, at least I know he doesn't hit women, but when he won't ever accept he's wrong. My mom has a hard time with him now. She accepted the fact that there is no much she can do, and I won't do anything either, it would only make things worse. These kind of people will never accept they have a psychological problem, therefore, will never accept any help on that matter.

It's really sad for me, because, eventhough he's a problematic person, and takes me out of my nerves, I wish him nothing but the best, and it's my (perhaps unrealistic) hope that someday he could see his errors and change a bit, for himself, not just for us. I mean, I hope nothing bad happens before that..

I wish I could do something more, or maybe have the strenght to be more persuasive, to talk with him and trying to help overcome the problems he isn't even aware he has, but I just don't know how to deal with it. So far, after some incidents, I realized the best way to keep harmony is to stay away, leave him alone, and don't talk about personal issues, it's sad that eventhough we're brothers from the same blood, we've never been close to each other. We are not even friends (I'm 6 years his senior). I'm also sad for his kids, they will grow up without even remember his dad. But maybe it's the best thing after all, I know it isn't, but still.. But then again, I can't be there always, I need to take care of my life and the rest of my family too.

So yes, OP, I know and feel what you're going through with your sister too. Just remember you need to live your own life too, it doesn't need to be always about her, try not to let the negativity ruin you and your family. I guess there is a time when we must say "Enough is enough"..

Yep have two family members with it.If your sister had it you would know long before years went by.They feel grander than anyone else around them.They take what belongs to others and sincerely believe its owed to them.They are cold and calculating and dont care who they hurt to get their way.Most are very successful because they dont care who they have to stomp on to get what they want.They have no emotion except fake emotion to fit in.They are cold and unfeeling and they cause others a lot of pain.They dont really even want children because they get in the way of their success and they cant show love nor understand something as simple as sharing.
If they do for another its only because it will benefit them in some way at a future time.

Why yes!!! the same way you suffer from yours. No wonder you "understood" that! Congrats

Those two things are the most dangerous because they will destroy anyone that they feel is in their way.They never get enough and destroying others brings them joy and the grand feel of success

.masters of manipulation.
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Never forget this one even for a moment.

They will destroy you,literally,before they would become accountable.The first step is they try to make others think the person they want to destroy is the crazy one.My EX did just that very thing to me and also another of his EX lovers.

Yup, I have one too...my sister...She is always right even when she makes no sence, she is better than every one, smarter, funnier, more talented, wise, and so giving....in reality, she makes no sence, has no sence of humor, she may be book smart but can not function in the real world, all her problems are someone elses fault and never her own..she will suck all the energy out of a room...

I do but I love her unconditionally. It can be very painful at times.

I left a spouse of many years after finally coming to the understanding that I was dealing with a narcissist and sociopath. It was a totally miserable marriage and I finally have peace. There is no fixing them. They do not believe there is anything wrong with what they do nor how they treat others. Only THEY matter to themselves.

karma never seems to touch these people

True this.

Keep as far away as you can. Don't answer calls, don't open doors. All they want from you is your last breath. They will kill you- death from a thousand cuts, empathy is manna to them.

My daughter is becoming narcissistic in a way but she only 14 so it might be something else.

I have noticed that too.Doesnt matter how nasty they are they always come out smelling like the rose.Do good in the stock market,investments pay off well.Never seem to have any hardships even though they cause many to suffer.

That we see

That would be your OPINION, like most of psychiatry

I truly am now, a year after my mother's death, beginning to wonder if she was litteraly demonic possessed. I would have scoffed at the notion years ago but since the information via the web and the recent teentrend in Hollywood movies on the subject, I leave my mind open to the possibility.

My mother was like Joan Crawford x's 100. I remember watching mommy dearest as a kid thinking Christina was far luckier than me.

The scary part is it was always behind closed doors. She was a bar fly and the town just loved her.

Her nightly fits of rage were something out of the exorcist. Screaming at top of lungs...sometimes for hours on end. Nowadays I would have been removed from home. No father ...she drove him to nervous breakdown ..he lived among the homeless ...such a gentle soul he was. I heard he was a genius.

I won't go into details...as an adult now I realize how sick gots was. And yet only directed at me....

My uncle ...her brother said she was nasty even as a young child. My grandfather finally sent her away in the late 60s for her emotionlly violent fits. She underwent ECT...experimental shock treatments.

I also believe she dabbled in the occult. I have never to this day heard of a more evil mother...aside from the ones who murder their own