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Weakest Solar Cycle in over a 100 years...Do not buy into it....

 
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This is interesting !

The Fireballs of February
[link to science.nasa.gov]

and this !

NASA Claims Sun's Polar Shift Due In 2012
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

And Nasa -

Space Weather Center to Add World's First 'Ensemble Forecasting' Capability

After years of relative somnolence, the sun is beginning to stir. By the time it's fully awake in about 20 months, the team at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., charged with researching and tracking solar activity, will have at their disposal a greatly enhanced forecasting capability

Since the sun reached its solar minimum in 2008

As part of its 11-year cycle, the sun is entering solar maximum, the period of greatest activity. It is expected to peak in 2013
[link to www.nasa.gov]

And they were saying (I cant find the story atm) March 2013 is the expected peak !

So to work on a cycles average activity, the sun has alot of catching up to do in a short amount of time IMO so we probably will be in for a rough time !

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 Quoting: KAITIAKI


So.. Chemtrails are real.. They are actually used as an umbrella against the sun..they knew for years what is coming..Case closed..
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Solar Cycle 24 Begins
Jan. 10, 2008: Hang on to your cell phone, a new solar cycle has just begun.

"On January 4, 2008, a reversed-polarity sunspot appeared—and this signals the start of Solar Cycle 24," says David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center.

Much of this is still years away. "Intense solar activity won't begin immediately," notes Hathaway. "Solar cycles usually take a few years to build from solar minimum (where we are now) to Solar Max, expected in 2011 or 2012."

[link to science.nasa.gov]

Scientists Predict Big Solar Cycle

Solar cycle 24, due to peak in 2010 or 2011 "looks like its going to be one of the most intense cycles since record-keeping began almost 400 years ago," says solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center

Astronomers have been counting sunspots since the days of Galileo, watching solar activity rise and fall every 11 years. Curiously, four of the five biggest cycles on record have come in the past 50 years. "Cycle 24 should fit right into that pattern," says Hathaway.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

Solar Storm Warning

Like most experts in the field, Hathaway has confidence in the conveyor belt model and agrees with Dikpati that the next solar maximum should be a doozy. But he disagrees with one point. Dikpati's forecast puts Solar Max at 2012. Hathaway believes it will arrive sooner, in 2010 or 2011.

"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.
[link to science.nasa.gov]


And it just goes on and on ! if you look its there, its just most people hare too buisy fitting into the system.

I hear polyethylene plastic is a good shield ??
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Damn phone wont let me quote...thanks for all the great links...i just think people shouldnt let their guard down...this could all be a big cover up like stated by others
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Yup !

IMO chemtrails are used for multiple reasons/purposes.

one being to keep the majority thinking at lower IQ levels, which makes it easier for those operating at higher (more natural) IQ levels to pull the wool over the masses eyes.

These apocolyptic events / cycles have been known about for ever.
This time its different as the world isnt working together.

The information is there though.
Most religions / cultures / mythologies / etc talk about times like this, we have lost the IQ? to intereret the teachings and/or have been mislead from the teachings / information.

even when presented with sound theories we mostly literally cant belive our eyes !, its soo far from what we have been bred to belive ! IMO

grinning
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Damn phone wont let me quote...thanks for all the great links...i just think people shouldnt let their guard down...this could all be a big cover up like stated by others
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Exactly Bro !

It makes sense !! come on if we get real would WE tell EVERYBODY ? na I reckon more could survive if the masses didnt panic till the last minute, maybe if the world wasn't lied to at the start or for so long we could have globally collectively pulled something together ?!.

Maybe the chemtrailing, sattellite research, deep space observatories, CERN !, are efforts to do something to protect the planet and peoples ?!, It would be more important to save the planet than the people IMO.

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Damn phone wont let me quote...thanks for all the great links...i just think people shouldnt let their guard down...this could all be a big cover up like stated by others
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


Exactly Bro !

It makes sense !! come on if we get real would WE tell EVERYBODY ? na I reckon more could survive if the masses didnt panic till the last minute, maybe if the world wasn't lied to at the start or for so long we could have globally collectively pulled something together ?!.

Maybe the chemtrailing, sattellite research, deep space observatories, CERN !, are efforts to do something to protect the planet and peoples ?!, It would be more important to save the planet than the people IMO.

ohyeah
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I don't think the planet needs saved as it has been through these cycles many times before and would probably be quite happy with quite a few less of us shitting all over the place.
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what are the odds of another carrington level event?

how much notice would we have if one occured? or would we have any notice? 2 or 3 days?

i'm sure the continuance of government people have run many a scenerio on such an event.ratdance
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Very obviously a government shill or at the least a naive college grad that still has faith in NASA.

Do your homework folks, get your info from sources outside of NASA(Never A Straight Answer) before making an informed decision.

Have fun with this one, when ppl die because of your ill informed bullshit make sure you drop a penny in your "fuck yeah" jar dumbass.

Hit STEREO, SOHO, SECCHI and other related sources, gather the data folks, this shit isn't a fucking joke, the earth has expanded by 26 miles at the equator because the core is heating up from the increased solar energy(among other things).

Stay safe and be prepared peeps, Peace.
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Very obviously a government shill or at the least a naive college grad that still has faith in NASA.

Do your homework folks, get your info from sources outside of NASA(Never A Straight Answer) before making an informed decision.

Have fun with this one, when ppl die because of your ill informed bullshit make sure you drop a penny in your "fuck yeah" jar dumbass.

Hit STEREO, SOHO, SECCHI and other related sources, gather the data folks, this shit isn't a fucking joke, the earth has expanded by 26 miles at the equator because the core is heating up from the increased solar energy(among other things).

Stay safe and be prepared peeps, Peace.
 Quoting: siniXster


What he said ^^^^^^^^^^^

Nasa has info there but probably as much or more disinfo, they contradict themselves every 5 seconds.

At the end of the day dont deny what you feel !

Get prepped, open yer eyes and ears.
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cool thread. cool2

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what are the odds of another carrington level event?

how much notice would we have if one occured? or would we have any notice? 2 or 3 days?

i'm sure the continuance of government people have run many a scenerio on such an event.ratdance
 Quoting: tinygreen


More like 8-9 mins at most.
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what are the odds of another carrington level event?

how much notice would we have if one occured? or would we have any notice? 2 or 3 days?

i'm sure the continuance of government people have run many a scenerio on such an event.ratdance
 Quoting: tinygreen


More like 8-9 mins at most.
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Wouldn't it be the CME that would actually do the damage? This should give us some time, shouldn't it?
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Breath in
Breath out
Breath in
Breath out...
Long breath in..in....in......and .....wait for it....

Oh look.. he stopped breathing!
wait for it...
O AAAaaCHOOOO!!>>>>>>>.))))))))).--------> °
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OK I'm a CMEtard... Anyone know what a massive CME can do to us? Fried power grid and satelite for sure, but what else?

Say the largest CME in history times a million, can it kill animals directly? Can it also fry ALL electronics even when they are unplugged (that'll really be back to stone age)? Trigger massive lightnings? Turnadoes and earthquakes and vulcanos? What are we protecting our collective asses from?

Even in 'The Killshot' I didn't see an exact explanation. The scenario in the movie 'Knowing' is not CME, but the effect of the sun becoming a red giant, which isn't gonna happen yet (right?).


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All I have to say is bring on the Sun Doom! We need it.
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[link to solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov]

The current prediction for Sunspot Cycle 24 gives a smoothed sunspot number maximum of about 63 in early 2013. We are currently over three years into Cycle 24. The current predicted size makes this the smallest sunspot cycle in about 100 years.

BUT---even so all it takes is one flare like what hit during the Carrington event of 1859 to possibly knock out technologies. So we are not out of the woods yet just because they are predicting a week cycle. We have already seen some pretty good flares and strong CMEs this cycle.. or they could also be playing it down.

Carrington event link:

[link to science.nasa.gov]

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Another interesting link from the last solar cycle(23)..sounds to me like they would have better luck predicting the weather..lol..We shall see..

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Criticisms of long-term solar cycle prediction focus on the thin physical foundation beneath such predictions and the limitations of the data used to define and extend solar and geophysical variability. The panel largely agrees with these criticisms, and offers the following recommendations to improve future studies:

Long-term, consistent measurements of important solar and geophysical parameters should be continued and their quality maintained (e.g. calibration and sampling rates), including observations of 10.7 cm solar flux, international sunspot number, interplanetary fields and plasma near Earth, geomagnetic indices, and cosmic ray fluxes.

Measurements of those parameters which may improve our understanding of solar cycles, such as solar vector magnetic fields, coronal mass ejections, stellar observations, and paleo cosmogenic data (e.g., ice cores, tree rings, etc.) should be continued.

Prediction research should be supported and the scientific community encouraged to develop a fundamental understanding of the solar cycle that would provide the basis for physical rather than the present empirical prediction methods.


Pictures from the strongest proton storm in years..Don`t buy into this "weakest" cycle in 100 years..stay prepared

:cme2222222:

:protons:
 Quoting: <<LOOK`n thru YOU>>


??? Wtf are you reading ? . This solar cycle has been predicted for many years to be the strongest ever , I have been waiting on 2012 with relish
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What happens if I do "Buy into it" ???
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This is the fifth Sun and the last transition for man. To forecast the solar weather now, all one needs to do is to read prophecy.
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The prediction is totally wrong. The last solar maximum lasted at least3 years longer than it was supposed to, the logical collusion is that the 11 year cycle is no longer as predictable as it once was, for whatever reason. What we are observing at the moment is a gradual increase in solar activity that is approximately 2 years late in developing, precisely what one would expect if you were analyzing the information logically.

There are three significant factors that have not been brought up on this thread, one is the shrinking of the heliosphere and the increase of interplanetary plasma, which makes any solar radiation storm more geo effective by increasing the conductivity of 'open' space between the Sun and Earth. This is why relatively minor flares have caused extreme radiation storms on Earth. The other factor that has not been brought up is the fact that the magnetosphere has been found to be deteriorating and now has large voids, meaning large geographic areas are unprotected from solar particle and cosmic radiation. This translates into even if there is no unusual solar activity at all, being in one of these areas is exposing you to up to 100 to 1000 times the normal particle flux.

Now, for factor number three, contrary to what the 'experts' are saying, the 'ribbon' of plasma is in fact the galactic plane, and we are entering it. As we do, the conductivity of space will increase and the energy of the Sun will be focused on this planet by a peculiar alignment that will take place on you got it, 12/21/12. On that date the Earth will be directly between the galactic center and the Sun. The effect will be for the Glactice center to focus solar radiation on this planet, and the results will be catastrophic.

You don't have to believe me, after all most of you are believers in traditional academic physics and quantum theory, and reject the idea of the Electric universe. By the time I am proved right, there will be no way left for me to tell you I told you so, but the plasma in the galactic plane combined with the electromagnetic forces applied on the Sun as the solar system enters the galactic plane will result in a total failure of the geomagnetic field that coincides with radical solar radiation storms which are intensified by the effects of a high density of ionized plasma. The main reason the solar cycle has been delayed is simply because of the effects of the shrinking of the Suns magnetic field as we enter the plasma cloud. Sooner or later, we will enter the region of un ionized hydrogen in the galactic plane that forms stars in the first place, and our star will go into overdrive as it's gravitational field pulls in hydrogen, which is what fuels it. It will be a bit like pouring gasoline on a fire.
. DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING FROM MAINSTREAM ACADEMIC PUBLICATIONS AND SOURCES , NASA, OR NOAA. They are NOT going to warn you about what is about to happen.
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So is there anything we can do about this? Or is it pretty much a moot point at this point?
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here's the 2012 breakdown: obama is getting a second term, there is no cosmic disaster, america will legislate policies which, in union with the economic downturn present lucrative incentive for manufacturing to return. nothing will hqppen in iran, america will not start a new war. the dow will remain above 10k and the dollar will stay within current trends. gas will fluctuate between 4.30 and 3.30/gallon on average. in december 2012, there will be all sorts of hype and bullshit, NYC will drop the ball as usual but with more aggrandized hype. 2013 will ring in without any mishap, and glp will certainly have new doom to contemplate, possibly in the form of a crisis involving the pacific ocean/ocean life.

that's about it, read it and weep or not but i'll guarantee, 2012 is going to be a massive let down for the doomers/preppers.

mark this post, and what it contains, which is truth.
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The prediction is totally wrong. The last solar maximum lasted at least3 years longer than it was supposed to, the logical collusion is that the 11 year cycle is no longer as predictable as it once was, for whatever reason. What we are observing at the moment is a gradual increase in solar activity that is approximately 2 years late in developing, precisely what one would expect if you were analyzing the information logically.

There are three significant factors that have not been brought up on this thread, one is the shrinking of the heliosphere and the increase of interplanetary plasma, which makes any solar radiation storm more geo effective by increasing the conductivity of 'open' space between the Sun and Earth. This is why relatively minor flares have caused extreme radiation storms on Earth. The other factor that has not been brought up is the fact that the magnetosphere has been found to be deteriorating and now has large voids, meaning large geographic areas are unprotected from solar particle and cosmic radiation. This translates into even if there is no unusual solar activity at all, being in one of these areas is exposing you to up to 100 to 1000 times the normal particle flux.

Now, for factor number three, contrary to what the 'experts' are saying, the 'ribbon' of plasma is in fact the galactic plane, and we are entering it. As we do, the conductivity of space will increase and the energy of the Sun will be focused on this planet by a peculiar alignment that will take place on you got it, 12/21/12. On that date the Earth will be directly between the galactic center and the Sun. The effect will be for the Glactice center to focus solar radiation on this planet, and the results will be catastrophic.

You don't have to believe me, after all most of you are believers in traditional academic physics and quantum theory, and reject the idea of the Electric universe. By the time I am proved right, there will be no way left for me to tell you I told you so, but the plasma in the galactic plane combined with the electromagnetic forces applied on the Sun as the solar system enters the galactic plane will result in a total failure of the geomagnetic field that coincides with radical solar radiation storms which are intensified by the effects of a high density of ionized plasma. The main reason the solar cycle has been delayed is simply because of the effects of the shrinking of the Suns magnetic field as we enter the plasma cloud. Sooner or later, we will enter the region of un ionized hydrogen in the galactic plane that forms stars in the first place, and our star will go into overdrive as it's gravitational field pulls in hydrogen, which is what fuels it. It will be a bit like pouring gasoline on a fire.
. DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING FROM MAINSTREAM ACADEMIC PUBLICATIONS AND SOURCES , NASA, OR NOAA. They are NOT going to warn you about what is about to happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1171727


Nice piece of korero Bro !
Got me onboard applause2