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My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

 
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The Masons have been infiltrated, and over-run, by a cabal of Psychopaths and Malignants who have co-opted and bastardized these alleged "secrets" and symbols.

I hate to be the Moran to break this to you, but your Grandfather was likely nothing more than a mind-control victim, or stooge, of these Malignant Psychopaths.

Ritualized Brain-Washing, Mind-Control, Secrecy, and threats of death are the standard operating procedure for these co-opted organizations of confused despot wanna-be's.

There are always some elements of truth woven into any good bamboozle.
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My Dad AND brother are 32 degree Masons. I can tell you that you are lying.
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My Dad AND brother are 32 degree Masons. I can tell you that you are lying.
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You are not a Mason so you don't really know.

There's a chance your dad and brother may not know what evil lies beneath the murky waters they have dipped their toes into.

There's a better chance they do know this is the truth but will never tell even you.

Not only did they take an oath under the threat of death and torture to never tell the truth, but the Masonic rituals turn people into psychopaths and drive them insane the same way Scientology does.

They may look like the same people you know and love but they are rotting from the inside out and can't be trusted.
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My stepgrandfather is a mason and I am really scared about that. I've always got a creepy vibe off of alot of the stuff in his house (that carries the mason emblems and symbols) .

He tried getting my stepdad into the DeMolays *AKA* Devil worship for teenage boys. Back in the 60s and my stepdad (who was my mom's high school boyfriend back then) tried getting her into the women's chapter but she was creeped out and left. Luckily. My stepdad did too.
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Biggest bunch of bullcrap I have seen..if his grandfather did not believe in GOD but Lucifer he was a fake Mason.
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I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!
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So by your logic, since they are telling you, they don't know?

Way to contribute there buddy.
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Not quite.
It's a polite way of saying " mind your own business".
Those who profess, in public and on here; to know about masonry simply don't.
Masons keep schtum.
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My family on both sides were masons and the women of my family were women of the morning star. I have in my possession their 32nd Degree mason paperwork that they carried in a leather case. My family has been involved in freemasonry for generations. However, it ended with my father. He refused to join but was part of the DE MOLEY society in Detroit in the early years. The documents are signed by 33rd degree masons. I have never see one of the documents ever posted anywhere.

I also have their pins and other items they wore.

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I call BULLSHIT with a dash of common sense.
Im a third degree MM.
I dont attend because of the sports talk, gossip
and general waste of time after the ceremonial meeting.
And a group within a group is logical HOWEVER
I think the OP is a shill or baiter because any
grandfather has a degree of wisdom...and YOU CANT
BELIEVE IN LUCIFER WITHOUT BELIEF IN GOD. IF THERES
ONE, THERES THE OTHER. OP'S NARRATIVE FAILS AT THIS
POINT (.)
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I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.
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This. I'm a 3rd Degree Master Mason and this thread isbsflag
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lies op is speaking the truth.
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I call BULLSHIT with a dash of common sense.
Im a third degree MM.
I dont attend because of the sports talk, gossip
and general waste of time after the ceremonial meeting.
And a group within a group is logical HOWEVER
I think the OP is a shill or baiter because any
grandfather has a degree of wisdom...and YOU CANT
BELIEVE IN LUCIFER WITHOUT BELIEF IN GOD. IF THERES
ONE, THERES THE OTHER. OP'S NARRATIVE FAILS AT THIS
POINT (.)
 Quoting: russ59dd


He is right and it is expected for you and all the others to say he is lying. Like your really going to admit he is right. And if he is wrong why should it matter? Why are you so defensive twerp. I know more than this but you know why I can't speak the deeper truth. Its not time for it to be revealed. I suggest we all leave and let lying dogs sleep.
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Hey Grandmaster Abysmal, Im not defending masonry
and Im not defending God. They dont need my effort
I just dont like shills and baiters.
Why are you so bothered, twerp?
Get mad much, bra?
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OH now I get it... bs-my-azz
I guess when ever someone disagrees
and calls BULLSHIT you get upset
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OH now I get it... bs-my-azz
I guess when ever someone disagrees
and calls BULLSHIT you get upset
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Ted you have been warned
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I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!
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^this
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I am a Knight of the Brazen Serpent and I can tell you that the OP is full of something, and truth it's not.

As far as the "Masons don't know what masons do!" Ok... and you do? Come off it. There is no hidden agenda, there is no global cabal. There are gullible people out there though, a lot of whom seem to congregate here.

-Unknown
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I agree. As far as deceitful controllers, I would look no further than the Vatican. All this anti-mason crap was started by them.
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I've been to mason halls and they mostly smell of adult diapers and colostomy bags. The fellers there are nice enough and usually planning their world domination schemes...you know, updating the local library, building baseball diamonds, cook offs.

All very mysterious and dark isn't it?

I know a couple of 32nd degree mason's myself, been drunk and stoned a couple times with them to. The ones I know are just trying to keep the local shit together with various degrees of success.
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freemasons on both sides of the family. mother was a rainbow girl, grandmothers eastern star, grandfather very high ranking military, and a high ranking mason, in his late 70s. the only thing he said was "its not a secret society, but it is a society with secrets"
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The OP is absolutely correct. My family belongs to grand lodge in Europe- where the actual power lies. They mock christianity and the fake idea of America being a democracy. Many chapters in the US are a bunch of good old boys that are not even considered real masons by grand lodge. I have been told repeatedly these insignificant lodges are more for local purposes and do not follow or understand the true knowledge. I do not hide my utter distaste for this organization and quite frequently jab my cousins for being devil worshippers. The patriarch of our family is very demeaning to american lodges and laughs at americans ignorance on the matter. They are certain that no one will believe the truth, so they just discuss it openly. I almost fell out of my chair the night I was informed so matter of factly. I do not say this to brag either, I do not like the fact that I am related to them. I think they are despicable people and I abhor having to be around them.
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Anyone that would take the Oath that Freemasons take is a dumb ass to begin with. Anyone that would join an Order or fraternity of any type that makes pledge or takes an oath when they didn’t know what it would be until the last minute is a fool. Oaths are no joke. Hitler had the entire German Military take an oath to Him for that very reason. One’s oath is powerful. The Masonic oath is about as self Damning as an oath can be. Quite horrible consequences for divulging any “secrets”. These people are simply men who need to belong to something and sold their souls without being aware of it. And Most don’t know anything anyway. Foolish men. Add two straight lines through the masonic symbol and you have the Star of David. Hiram a biff? I’m sure the all Seeing Eye at the top is most likely a Jewish one.
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wasn't Hitler a Mason ???
wasn't Stalin also a Mason ???
so is Ahmadinejad ???
and so is Bibi Netanyahoo ???
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Yup. FDR, Churchill, Hirohito, WWII and failed Masonry's WWIII (thanks to the nobody) is just a Satanic blood sacrifice. Freemasons have one obstacle to their New World Order- the Message of Fatima and the Third Secret from 2010-11:

[link to www.fatimamovement.com]
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wasn't Hitler a Mason ???
wasn't Stalin also a Mason ???
so is Ahmadinejad ???
and so is Bibi Netanyahoo ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11275401


and Clinton
and Bush
and Carter
and Reagan
and Obama (black freemason)

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true knowledge should be shared, not secreted away
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I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.
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Agreed! Ilumination was a secret in times PAST when the "priestly class" yielded more control over uneducated masses.
People are funny. They don't always follow the crystal thread very well~
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I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.
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This makes sense. I was an "entry level" mason -- an entered apprentice -- around 2005. Never went to meetings after being initiated, never even socialized with anyone being in law school at the time. My opinion is that they are, like you say, "agerage losers wanting to be a part of something" and are harmless. The guys I knew could never conspire to do much of anything except host bake sales or fundraisers, if they even did that much (like I say, I never participated after initiation).
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I am a Knight of the Brazen Serpent and I can tell you that the OP is full of something, and truth it's not.

As far as the "Masons don't know what masons do!" Ok... and you do? Come off it. There is no hidden agenda, there is no global cabal. There are gullible people out there though, a lot of whom seem to congregate here.

-Unknown
Idol1
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Says the Knight of the Brazen Serpent. Just having that kind of title........too funny!
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so i came to find out both of my grandfathers were 32nd degree masons, and given Google I wanted to learn more-interesting to note i came across this little 'angry' stream and while I admit to needing to learn more, in honor of both of them I will tell you they were two of the kindest, most gentle men that I enjoyed having in my life-no satan, no evil, no spoughting off like many of you in this 'chit chat'. Much of what I have read here smacks of ignorance-embrace people's difference, witch hunts went out of town a loooooooong time ago. God comes to all of us and expresses himself in many ways and on many levels-people are inherently good and want to do good-so get over yourselves and think about finding the good in others and what they do-don't be a part of anger; be a part of something better. I love you grandpa; I love you pop-pop-thank you both for being two good men in my life xoxoxoxo
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you are a bunch of wanker tards now then arent you?

crud, the masons set behind the throne, the Illuminati to the right. Though some may be enlightened (I doubt it), they are not one and the same.

The bit the fellow said about them being for the most part good, free will all that appears to be true, yet the enemy are infiltrators.
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One thing is true :
If your father is a freemason,you don't have a father,THEY have your father
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