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My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

 
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I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!
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my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.
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This is very easy to figure out, if you havent...

well...

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I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.
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You must be a member of the "average losers" chapter. You see, he already debunked you.
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Im not on expert on the masons , but I do think there is some truth to all the rumors we hear.

I used to go to a small bar that was run by 2 32nd degree masons. I got to know them both pretty well over about 5 years .I myself have read allot of books about the masons and after all the questions I had , I started to throw stuff at them here and there while I had a good buzz going. I would get allot of the standard , im full of shit type replys. I ended up saying to them the masons are gonna help usher in a NWO and stuff , they would get pissed. One day they even asked me back to the singing area to sit and talk , and to explain this NWO I was talking about more. They didnt say much to what I had to say. After we had this talk they never asked anything more about it to me , and I just let things be since I was a regular at this bar and didnt want to have to find a different watering hole. The crazy thing was , one night of drinking I go upstairs with some people to a apartment over the bar to have one for the road. When we go into the place I see the son of one of the owners and he was crying. This is a mans man from down south , they both still speak with an accent. Well I ask his buddy thats with him whats wrong , and he looks at me and asks if I ever heard of the illuminati! No shit! Before I can ask more they get up and make for the door. All I get from the people that were up there already, was he was going on about his dad and the masons and that he was leaving the state and didnt have a dad anymore. His dad told him something that freaked him out , he was a mason also , and I guess he said he didnt want to be anymore. Also people broke in the bar one time and stole a big wheel that was a part of this big picture of a stagecoach for some reason. They were real pissed about that too.No booze or anything else was taken.

Im sure Ill get a few BS flags , but its true.
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here is some wisdom for you, and see if it makes sense whether you're a Mason or not. It is generally believed by nearly everyone that by joining the masons on can expect certain advantages in society and be more successful if you join.

By design, no initiate can ever know what exactly it is he's getting into, because before he joins he's not allowed to know any of the secrets. So so the basic conditions that exist in a persons mind before they join is "I don't know what it's all about except it will provide me with an advantage over others if I join".

In this way the only people who are likely to join are those who are likely to do anything to advance. It's obvious, and goes without saying. In the first initiation, a Mason is told if he reveals any of the secrets, he will be killed, point blank.

Now whether they are good or bad is up to you to discern. In my experience good deeds do not be need to be covered in secrecy, but evil ones do.

My grandfather and father were both good men and both were high ranking Freemasons. They tried to recruit me into it, but when they refused to answer my questions about it, I simply said "i can't be a part of something if I don't know what it's about". They seemed to respect my decision and did not pressure me in any way that I can really say.

It had to be a decision made on my own free will.

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Grandfather was a 33 degree and my father a 32 degree. But I couldn't help but notice they were carrying baggage. My father was a totally different and distant man after he joined when I was in my teens, and he advanced very rapidly through their ranks. As he did, he seemed to become more and more hardened, as if it were killing his soul. That's my honest observation. I've read some of their initiation rituals in the higher degrees from some material that was left in my home when my father passed, and some of the things it involves cannot be considered benevolent , IMO.

When my father died ,the funeral hall was full of Masons , most of whom who I didn't know who had come from all over the country. there were over a hundred of them, and they all walked past the casket. My mom told me they have to all come to make sure he was really dead. That part pissed me off and made me wonder, especially when not a one of them turned out at the burial ceremony. They were just there to witness that he was dead, to make sure he was dead....
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Im not on expert on the masons , but I do think there is some truth to all the rumors we hear.

I used to go to a small bar that was run by 2 32nd degree masons. I got to know them both pretty well over about 5 years .I myself have read allot of books about the masons and after all the questions I had , I started to throw stuff at them here and there while I had a good buzz going. I would get allot of the standard , im full of shit type replys. I ended up saying to them the masons are gonna help usher in a NWO and stuff , they would get pissed. One day they even asked me back to the singing area to sit and talk , and to explain this NWO I was talking about more. They didnt say much to what I had to say. After we had this talk they never asked anything more about it to me , and I just let things be since I was a regular at this bar and didnt want to have to find a different watering hole. The crazy thing was , one night of drinking I go upstairs with some people to a apartment over the bar to have one for the road. When we go into the place I see the son of one of the owners and he was crying. This is a mans man from down south , they both still speak with an accent. Well I ask his buddy thats with him whats wrong , and he looks at me and asks if I ever heard of the illuminati! No shit! Before I can ask more they get up and make for the door. All I get from the people that were up there already, was he was going on about his dad and the masons and that he was leaving the state and didnt have a dad anymore. His dad told him something that freaked him out , he was a mason also , and I guess he said he didnt want to be anymore. Also people broke in the bar one time and stole a big wheel that was a part of this big picture of a stagecoach for some reason. They were real pissed about that too.No booze or anything else was taken.

Im sure Ill get a few BS flags , but its true.
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Something else that kinda blew my mind was , even though these guys still talked to me and were kind , I though it was because I spent allot of cash at the bar. After the above happened , I figured they didnt like me very much most likely.

Well these guys knew allot about me from the talks at the bar and knew I was in a little trouble with the law. My sister lived right down the street from the bar and one day I will just say some crap went down at her house and the police were called. I was out in the front yard , thinking well im going to jail , and while im talking to the officer , the bar owner pulls up out by the curb. The officer looks over to his car and the bar owner waves him over. Im thinking , O shit , this cops a mason to and hes probably gonna tell him to give me a hard time or something. Well ill be damned he walked over and said X knew me and have a good day lolz.
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I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!
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So by your logic, since they are telling you, they don't know?

Way to contribute there buddy.
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Hey, Those who don't speak know the one who's speaking doesn't know. lmao
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So the illuminati are the bad seeds of freemasonry.

I thought about becoming a mason, because I heard their intention is to better oneself in order to better the world.

And I need some friends lmao
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All Freemasons are two things.


They are Alchemists.

And they are followers in the Annunaki.

Freemasonry believes it has been bestowed with Investiture from them.
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What a bunch! Everyone in here is just looking for answers and knows nothing.
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My grandfather was also a 32nd degree Mason ..and was into some pretty ungodly things but claimed to be a preacher also. Now that I'm grown I know the things he done was very wrong. He was also a native American. So Idk if it was Masonic rituals that he was doing or had to do with native American rituals. I loved him dearly but the things he done outside of church were not what he did in church. Which made him a hypocrite. You don't straddle the fence you either serve Jesus christ or you don't. And mans ways will not get you into heaven. Only your faith in Jesus christ and what he done on the cross for our sins. God has done too much for me to deny him. But I do know if my grandfather wanted someone gone away it would happen..so idk if it was Masonic related or native American. Either way it was wrong.
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I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.
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fuckin retarded kids, 32nd degree mason isnt shit, its still 1 degree below 33rd degree and even then 33rd degree masons still dont know shit. there are A LOTTTTT of 33rd degree masons and none of them know anything. SO YOUR 32nd degree mason grandpa is either a lunatic or you are bullshitting.
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I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.
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My father was a 32degree mason.he told me basically the same thing.never any details but enough for me to know that masons were good.he told me of all the charitable things they do.also one of my uncle's also a mason.he never forced his children to believe in any religion. Only to be honest and a man of your word.this guys full of shit or his grandfather was. Fact
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Very interesting, OP. I can believe that since I know they worship lucifer aka Satan. Anything else you would like to share?
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What is your deal. You "know that they worship satan", huh? My great-grandfather was a 32nd degree mason and he believed and gave his life to jesus christ and god. You are a despicable excuse for a human being. Don't blab stuff out when you don't even have proof of evidence to back yourself up.
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The freemasons hahaha. A joke if you ask me. The Illumanati, I take very seriously and God wants me to destroy them all. You devil lovers have been warned. There are many like me. No friends, no familly. Just a bunch of secret society haters and you aint saying anything to change my mind.
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This thread is full of retards and YouTube slaves. Youhope you all realize that conspiracy and truth movement has been saturated and ppl actually get paid when you watch videos on there channels visit websites order books etc. Its just another market but this market is easy you don't even have to have facts and you flock of I'll minded peons eat it up. Its not masonry that's the problem its capitalism. You fools
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All Freemasons are two things.


They are Alchemists.

And they are followers in the Annunaki.

Freemasonry believes it has been bestowed with Investiture from them.
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^ reads two very common books of republished works and thinks he understands more about reality then others lol annunaki. My god do u have a mind to call your own?
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I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???

Omg.. Watch out boys this man has been watching YouTube. Stand back k as clearly his eternal knowledge flows. Lmao
This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.
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fuckin retarded kids, 32nd degree mason isnt shit, its still 1 degree below 33rd degree and even then 33rd degree masons still dont know shit. there are A LOTTTTT of 33rd degree masons and none of them know anything. SO YOUR 32nd degree mason grandpa is either a lunatic or you are bullshitting.
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lol masons get it. and its not a big secret. but the flock, they don't get it. they would rather pay some retared fool on youtube each time they go to watch one of his videos. then to step in threw the doors of a hall and speak to real people.
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lmao. you believe everything you see don't you?

Mark makes money off of you. FUCK ppl don't you realize that TV isn't the only form of media these days that makes money?!?!!?! Don't FEEED THE TROLLS WHO PLAY YOU FOR FOOLS
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Where did all these masonic freaks come from?
I thought those devils were permabanned on GLP?!?!

And here we are a thread full of these servants of Satan. WTH?!!??!
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fascinating stuff. The oak island article I stumbled upon rekindled my interest in freemasonry, though I doubt I'd gain much where I live where they meet one Tuesday per month.. probably just a bunch of beer drinking good natured guys with no real inside knowledge around here.

Makes me wonder what's under the surface that would 'wear on a person's soul' ... what are they being asked to do? I can only speculate... I'd be interested I should join and try to get up the ranks.. got nothing better to do and nothing to lose.

Perhaps it's the information that they are suddenly given is now being intrusted to them in such a way that they feel their life is in danger just for possessing it...

It wouldn't surprise me that there is an organization within an organization, actually I'd be surprised if there wasn't. Are their motives really that bad, however?

Nobody here can say for sure, and those who know who might be reading will never say.
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fascinating stuff. The oak island article I stumbled upon rekindled my interest in freemasonry, though I doubt I'd gain much where I live where they meet one Tuesday per month.. probably just a bunch of beer drinking good natured guys with no real inside knowledge around here.

Makes me wonder what's under the surface that would 'wear on a person's soul' ... what are they being asked to do? I can only speculate... I'd be interested I should join and try to get up the ranks.. got nothing better to do and nothing to lose.

Perhaps it's the information that they are suddenly given is now being intrusted to them in such a way that they feel their life is in danger just for possessing it...

It wouldn't surprise me that there is an organization within an organization, actually I'd be surprised if there wasn't. Are their motives really that bad, however?

Nobody here can say for sure, and those who know who might be reading will never say.
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Weird I just asked the same thing in another thread.
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Thread: Are you a travelling man?


I made this thread a while ago and was just looking back through it, just because.

I truly think it's one of those things we'll never know what truly goes on if in fact anything is going on. And this site is so full of trolls it's hard to tell the sincere from the crazy from the people just role playing.
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I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!
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You are ABSOLUTELY right! My grandfather was a 32nd degree mason - he took his "secrets" to the grave with him!
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My great Grandfather was a free mason. Even his parents and his parents parents were.
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Idol1Watching to much history channel.
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This is what i have to say; never judge anyone or any faction until you have walked at least a mile in their shoes. But if you are willing to give up your own selfless pride and walk at least 10 miles or maybe even 1000 miles in the shoes of ( this situation being the brothers of the freemasons) these men you are judging without experiencing first hand yourself then you might actually see the goodness in their hearts. Stop believing the hype that everyone is out to get us. Maybe sir you should try standing shoulder to shoulder with any of these fine men that call themselves FREEMASON, and maybe just maybe you might actually make some new really cool friends and then your respect for them will greatly improve.

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Im not a freemason but would love to become a member, i just do not know any personally......God Bless
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07/27/2014 11:31 AM
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Re: My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...
This dude's grandfather is a quack, I have first hand knowledge of the teachings, and nothing like that is included. Masons get a bad name and are slandered because people on the outside don't know what goes on inside. Sort of like someone who keeps the drapes and curtains closed all the time, people who cannot see inside, eventually make up negative stories about what is actually going on inside, and these rumors practically become the truth in other people's minds. I believe he was turned down from becoming a member so he started this nonsense. I feel sorry for him actually, but there must have been a source, or pivot point in his life for him to create such a story. Don't believe all that you see on TV and read on the internet, someone created those stories.

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