My Grandfather was a 32nd Degree Mason...and revealed ALL to me...

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My Dad AND brother are 32 degree Masons. I can tell you that you are lying.

So by your logic, since they are telling you, they don't know?

Way to contribute there buddy.

This. I'm a 3rd Degree Master Mason and this thread is

I call BULLSHIT with a dash of common sense.
Im a third degree MM.
I dont attend because of the sports talk, gossip
and general waste of time after the ceremonial meeting.
And a group within a group is logical HOWEVER
I think the OP is a shill or baiter because any
grandfather has a degree of wisdom...and YOU CANT
BELIEVE IN LUCIFER WITHOUT BELIEF IN GOD. IF THERES
ONE, THERES THE OTHER. OP'S NARRATIVE FAILS AT THIS
POINT (.)

OH now I get it... bs-my-azz
I guess when ever someone disagrees
and calls BULLSHIT you get upset

I am not a mason but i have some friends who are and this much they tell me: Those who know don't speak, and those whose speak don't know!

I am a Knight of the Brazen Serpent and I can tell you that the OP is full of something, and truth it's not.

As far as the "Masons don't know what masons do!" Ok... and you do? Come off it. There is no hidden agenda, there is no global cabal. There are gullible people out there though, a lot of whom seem to congregate here.

-Unknown

wasn't Hitler a Mason ???
wasn't Stalin also a Mason ???
so is Ahmadinejad ???
and so is Bibi Netanyahoo ???

wasn't Hitler a Mason ???
wasn't Stalin also a Mason ???
so is Ahmadinejad ???
and so is Bibi Netanyahoo ???

I am a 32nd degree mason, and this thread is a joke. The secrets are not who we worship, nor controling the world. Freemasons are the ones who fight for people, and do not promote control. If some one was to worship lucifer they can, but freemasons do not chose, or discriminate who they let in by religion. As long as they will live by morals, honor is huge in freemasonry. You can say what you will, but my guess is your grandfather wasn't a mason. Please I know for a fact. There is more love and less gosip in a lodge then any church I've ever been to. Ignorance is bliss, there are no freemasons in your family. Keep trolling, I know what every single degree is about, and nothing you said is true. I once thought all the crap on the internet was true, and my grandfather is one. I realized my ignorance was making me judge my own grandfather, as a powerfull rich corrupt man. Not true, and I realized by looking at his life and family that there is no evil schemes going on. I've had people tell me that I'm a bad person for being a freemason. Well I haven't worshiped the devil, or Lucifer for that matter. Even so I am not evil, and becoming a freemason has helped me to work on who I am, not manipulate others. The motto to make a good man better. That's absolutely what it's about. A fraternity of brotherly love. All I can say is masons are very different from what I believed them to be. I once had a view like you, and not from a death bed. Your grandfather would've had nothing but good to say about his brothers. I've never met a freemason who was evil, instead they are very loving people who have the best intentions. Not selfish people at all. FACT.

I posted this in another thread, but I believe it to be thread worthy...Ask away if you want to....


Actually he revealed all to me as he died at 67 in the hospital bed. This is all we discussed for 2 days. he revealed the truth....the truth too simple for all to understand....I know the truth....

The truth is....that only a few Freemason chapters hold the key to this Illumanatti crap...these chapters are hidden within "the whole" of masons...What that means is that freemasonry is compartmentalized within chapters, so one chapter does not really know what the other chapters are doing....

The "illumanatti" type of guys are invited to join the "hidden chapters" where all the weirdo gay, blackmailing, political, international, dealing, ruling goes on.... most of the other chapters in America are agerage losers wanting to be a part of something. All members within chapters are cuttthroat, gossiping, losers fighting for power within the ranks....

The truth is that the "Illumanatti" have hidden their fraternal order within the guise of thousands of other chapters that are nameless, faceless entities, so we can spend eternity looking for answers, and being misdirected by people who think they know what is going on, but dont, directly within the organization itself.....

This should not be confusing....Consider the Illumanatti Freemasons as a secret society within Freemasondry...without Freemasondry even knowing it exists within itself....Simple military diversion tactic....Wrap it in Christian values, build legitimate chapters spreading far and wide, and noone knows what the fuck is going on except the select few with access to the "bat phone"...get it???


This is the truth of Freemasondry, and why NOONe will ever come on here and tell us a thing.....because if you know anything worth knowing, then you realize you are better than us, and we dont deserve to know the "knowledge"....

my grandfather did not believe in the Bible. My grandfather thought Christianity was for fools, My grandfather believed Lucifer to be the bearer of Light. My grandfather thought he knew a "secret" about God, and that everyone else was weak for not knowing the truth.

my grandfather thought the earth has existed through 5 earth cycles, and that ancient man has risen and fallen 5 times, and has achieved space/cosmos travel multiple times, and the earth has cleanses itself numerous times, and cavemen were just the first out the hole after armageddon, each time. he believed that all that is to be learned, has already been taught, and that ALL knowledge is handed down, and not learnt.

my grandfather was a 32nd degree mason.

I am a Knight of the Brazen Serpent and I can tell you that the OP is full of something, and truth it's not.

As far as the "Masons don't know what masons do!" Ok... and you do? Come off it. There is no hidden agenda, there is no global cabal. There are gullible people out there though, a lot of whom seem to congregate here.

-Unknown