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Game Over for NASA Moon-Landing Hoax

 
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I found it! a recent photo clearly showing the American flag..surely theres no doubt now?

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I found it! a recent photo clearly showing the American flag..surely theres no doubt now?

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Astro run away quick..no answers for that simple question? cant use your mumbo jumbo words to answer simple logic yeh, doesn't much matter because China know it was a hoax and are not far from proving it :)
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please can somebody tell me (astromut?) why cant they just point a telescope or satellite at the moon, zoom in to the flag and snap a photo?
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Dawes' limit. LRO is the only satellite with enough resolution (due to its close proximity in lunar orbit and sizeable 8" telescope) to directly resolve the equipment at the landing sites at all.
that's all any1 has to do to dispel any doubts of either side..i honestly cant believe we don't have any instruments that can see the flag if it is in fact there???
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You would demand images of what is about the smallest piece of equipment left there. Nice arbitrary goalpost, but here you go:
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
There. It saw the flag. Barely, but it saw it. Your goalpost has been met.
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Astro run away quick..no answers for that simple question?
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You flatter yourself. I've answered that same question countless times on GLP. You're not clever at all. I'm preoccupied with astronomy tonight, you get my attention when and if I have some downtime. Otherwise, well, go find something more "clever" to do with yourself.
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please can somebody tell me (astromut?) why cant they just point a telescope or satellite at the moon, zoom in to the flag and snap a photo?
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Dawes' limit. LRO is the only satellite with enough resolution (due to its close proximity in lunar orbit and sizeable 8" telescope) to directly resolve the equipment at the landing sites at all.
that's all any1 has to do to dispel any doubts of either side..i honestly cant believe we don't have any instruments that can see the flag if it is in fact there???
 Quoting: AC


You would demand images of what is about the smallest piece of equipment left there. Nice arbitrary goalpost, but here you go:
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
There. It saw the flag. Barely, but it saw it. Your goalpost has been met.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


that's classic haha..that's the only proof u have of a flag? after all these years? sorry but this could be anything and is not evidence of anything..they can take a photo of a 20 cent coin on earth from space but not a flag on the moon, that nonsense..makes no sense at all sorry

if u believe then fine but u cant expect some1 to see that photo and say yes that's an American flag
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they can take a photo of a 20 cent coin on earth from space
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Show me a picture of a 20 cent coin on earth taken from space.
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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway

quick google search I got this which isn't far off, and I think u'll agree its a lot higher resolution then any photos u have of the flag? and I would think its easier to photogragh the moon since theres no atmosphere or pollution, maybe i'm wrong but

[link to aerometrex.com.au]
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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway
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Actually it is your claim and that blog's quote is well, a blog. I asked for a specific photo example for a reason. The details are very important. Now provide it or retract the claim.

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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway
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Actually it is your claim and that blog's quote is well, a blog. I asked for a specific photo example for a reason. The details are very important. Now provide it or retract the claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


no I wont retract, I stand by the statement..i'll retract it when u can show me a photo of the flag
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ok Astro appreciate u trying and don't mean any argument just questioning what doesn't seem right..here is the quality type of photo I wanna see of the flag

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]

look at that quality
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07/27/2013 02:48 AM
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wont be lng anyway, the truth will come out whatever it is :)

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the question is what will the world think of the U.S. if it is a hoax..i would expect it to be a massive gamechanger, I kinda hope it isn't a hoax
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Jay-Z spotted at 18:11. OMG he is everywhere in old movies and clips!!!!!
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here's some more Hollywood action :)
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here's some more Hollywood action :)

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you gotta feel sorry for astro, goin to university n studying astrophysics all them years (supposedly) and yet not smart enough to comprehend basic physics a 6th grader understands.

Living your whole believing in such a hoax, defending it even lol its tragic really
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Where is your proof that the lasers are actually hitting retro-reflectors and not just bouncing off the surface?
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Do you know how big such a reflector is?
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The laser beam is 4 miles wide by the time it reaches the Moon from Earth. The largest reflector was around 3 feet wide. Since the moon's surface is reflective, there was no real need for the reflectors.
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Except when you use only the surface as a reflector your initial signal has to be more powerful and your return is smaller and more diffuse. When you use a reflector, even though only a small part of the beam hits it, you can use a weaker signal and you get a distinct, more precise return.
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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway

quick google search I got this which isn't far off, and I think u'll agree its a lot higher resolution then any photos u have of the flag? and I would think its easier to photogragh the moon since theres no atmosphere or pollution, maybe i'm wrong but

[link to aerometrex.com.au]
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The pics on that blog that approach the claimed resolution are NOT from space but from airplanes.
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lol its tragic really
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So is doing nothing but being a troll.
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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway
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Actually it is your claim and that blog's quote is well, a blog. I asked for a specific photo example for a reason. The details are very important. Now provide it or retract the claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


no I wont retract, I stand by the statement..i'll retract it when u can show me a photo of the flag
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I showed you a photo of the flag, now you're trying to move the goalposts back.
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ok Astro appreciate u trying
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I doubt that very much.
and don't mean any argument
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I doubt that even more.
just questioning what doesn't seem right..
 Quoting: AC

To who? You? You weren't even aware of Dawes' limit.
here is the quality type of photo I wanna see of the flag

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]

look at that quality
 Quoting: AC

Rhea has a diameter of about 1,528 km. It's about 886 pixels across at the full resolution of that photo. That's a spatial resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. So what you're actually saying (without realizing it) is that you want to see a photo of the flag on the moon with a resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. Ok. Here you go:
[link to farm4.staticflickr.com]
In this image the moon is about 4270 pixels wide. The moon's diameter is about 3474 km so the image has a spatial resolution of about 0.814 km/pixel, twice as good as the Cassini photo of Rhea. Yeah, good luck seeing the flag...
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ok Astro appreciate u trying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44118449

I doubt that very much.
and don't mean any argument
 Quoting: AC

I doubt that even more.
just questioning what doesn't seem right..
 Quoting: AC

To who? You? You weren't even aware of Dawes' limit.
here is the quality type of photo I wanna see of the flag

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]

look at that quality
 Quoting: AC

Rhea has a diameter of about 1,528 km. It's about 886 pixels across at the full resolution of that photo. That's a spatial resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. So what you're actually saying (without realizing it) is that you want to see a photo of the flag on the moon with a resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. Ok. Here you go:
[link to farm4.staticflickr.com]
In this image the moon is about 4270 pixels wide. The moon's diameter is about 3474 km so the image has a spatial resolution of about 0.814 km/pixel, twice as good as the Cassini photo of Rhea. Yeah, good luck seeing the flag...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Rhea crater? I don't know where you got that name..i mean the photo 2nd from the bottom on that link

The 13-mile (21-km) wide Giordano Bruno crater on the Moon’s far side was recently imaged by NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]


and no Astro you haven't shown any photo of the flag, you showed a photo of what could be anything. definitely did not show a flag..try again?
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e for starters I don't have access to that technology so I cant just show u a photo, its not my claim anyway
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44118449


Actually it is your claim and that blog's quote is well, a blog. I asked for a specific photo example for a reason. The details are very important. Now provide it or retract the claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


no I wont retract, I stand by the statement..i'll retract it when u can show me a photo of the flag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44118449


I showed you a photo of the flag, now you're trying to move the goalposts back.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


nope, I only asked you for 1 thing, a photo that shows the American flag is on the moon..you cant show it because there's no flag there
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lol its tragic really
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So is doing nothing but being a troll.
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unless you have something to contribute to the debate then why comment, unless you are the troll? cos that's what a troll does, comments crap with no relevance to the topic
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You would demand images of what is about the smallest piece of equipment left there. Nice arbitrary goalpost, but here you go:
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
There. It saw the flag. Barely, but it saw it. Your goalpost has been met.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

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Re: Game Over for NASA Moon-Landing Hoax
ok Astro appreciate u trying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44118449

I doubt that very much.
and don't mean any argument
 Quoting: AC

I doubt that even more.
just questioning what doesn't seem right..
 Quoting: AC

To who? You? You weren't even aware of Dawes' limit.
here is the quality type of photo I wanna see of the flag

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]

look at that quality
 Quoting: AC

Rhea has a diameter of about 1,528 km. It's about 886 pixels across at the full resolution of that photo. That's a spatial resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. So what you're actually saying (without realizing it) is that you want to see a photo of the flag on the moon with a resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. Ok. Here you go:
[link to farm4.staticflickr.com]
In this image the moon is about 4270 pixels wide. The moon's diameter is about 3474 km so the image has a spatial resolution of about 0.814 km/pixel, twice as good as the Cassini photo of Rhea. Yeah, good luck seeing the flag...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Rhea crater? I don't know where you got that name..i mean the photo 2nd from the bottom on that link

The 13-mile (21-km) wide Giordano Bruno crater on the Moon’s far side was recently imaged by NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44175054


The Giordano Bruno crater image is from LRO, it's the same satellite that took the images of the Apollo sites! 21 km wide eh? It's about 880 pixels across in that image. That's about 23.8 meters per pixel. That's not even enough resolution to see the LM descent stage, let alone the flag. The images of the Apollo landing sites from LRO show that they're real, they agree perfectly with the images taken by the astronauts during the Apollo program.
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
You are a troll, plain and simple.
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lol its tragic really
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So is doing nothing but being a troll.
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You certainly are the expert on that subject, aren't you stalker?
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lol its tragic really
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So is doing nothing but being a troll.
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You certainly are the expert on that subject, aren't you stalker?
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What can I say? I learned from the best, IDW/A.A -- you, yourself.
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ok Astro appreciate u trying
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44118449

I doubt that very much.
and don't mean any argument
 Quoting: AC

I doubt that even more.
just questioning what doesn't seem right..
 Quoting: AC

To who? You? You weren't even aware of Dawes' limit.
here is the quality type of photo I wanna see of the flag

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]

look at that quality
 Quoting: AC

Rhea has a diameter of about 1,528 km. It's about 886 pixels across at the full resolution of that photo. That's a spatial resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. So what you're actually saying (without realizing it) is that you want to see a photo of the flag on the moon with a resolution of 1.72 km per pixel. Ok. Here you go:
[link to farm4.staticflickr.com]
In this image the moon is about 4270 pixels wide. The moon's diameter is about 3474 km so the image has a spatial resolution of about 0.814 km/pixel, twice as good as the Cassini photo of Rhea. Yeah, good luck seeing the flag...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Rhea crater? I don't know where you got that name..i mean the photo 2nd from the bottom on that link

The 13-mile (21-km) wide Giordano Bruno crater on the Moon’s far side was recently imaged by NASA’s Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

[link to lightsinthedark.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44175054


The Giordano Bruno crater image is from LRO, it's the same satellite that took the images of the Apollo sites! 21 km wide eh? It's about 880 pixels across in that image. That's about 23.8 meters per pixel. That's not even enough resolution to see the LM descent stage, let alone the flag. The images of the Apollo landing sites from LRO show that they're real, they agree perfectly with the images taken by the astronauts during the Apollo program.
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
You are a troll, plain and simple.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


nope your'e the troll, regurgitating the same crappy photos that show nothing besides the fact that you are delusional

a dot on a screen isn't evidence, wouldn't the colour at least stand out n so be a red pixel, u have a photo of a rock or something..who knows

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