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Game Over for NASA Moon-Landing Hoax

 
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sure there are more questions, who filmed Armstrong, when he says the first blabla (where was the camera)
on aonther film, when the shuttle starts from the moon, the cam moves up (following the shuttle) how? with an controller? etc.
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The camera that videoed Armstrong was on a pallet on the side of the spacecraft that deployed in a way so that it was aimed at the ladder and landing gear.

The camera that followed the liftoff of the lunar module was on the moon rover and was controlled by an engineer in Houston. Since he knew exactly when liftoff would occur, even though there was a signal delay between the Earth and the Moon, he could anticipate when to start tracking. Even then, he had problems on Apollo 15 and 16 and only got it right on Apollo 17, which is of course the clip that everyone shows.

Five minutes of Googling would have answered both these questions.
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I'm dissappointed in the shillery.

Running out of gas so fast, wait I know call me a queer. Oh yeah I already took that from you. Here you go: Your A terrorist for sabotaging the national security of the U.S. by even admitting that there is a moon!!!
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sure there are more questions, who filmed Armstrong, when he says the first blabla (where was the camera)
on aonther film, when the shuttle starts from the moon, the cam moves up (following the shuttle) how? with an controller? etc.
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The camera that videoed Armstrong was on a pallet on the side of the spacecraft that deployed in a way so that it was aimed at the ladder and landing gear.

The camera that followed the liftoff of the lunar module was on the moon rover and was controlled by an engineer in Houston. Since he knew exactly when liftoff would occur, even though there was a signal delay between the Earth and the Moon, he could anticipate when to start tracking. Even then, he had problems on Apollo 15 and 16 and only got it right on Apollo 17, which is of course the clip that everyone shows.

Five minutes of Googling would have answered both these questions.
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What did you search, WikiGOVIA!
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Bouncing radio waves off an object (aka radar) is not the same as bouncing light off an object.

Are you that Fn stupid OP ?

Obviously you are....Since you've "studied" so call moon landing hoax videos you are an expert. ...

stfu
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Actually a laser is more akin to ultra high frequency radio waves than it is to visible light.

Its more a single frequencey radio wave that just happens to be in the visible spetrum.

Its also noted that they WERE bouncing lasers off the moon BEFORE the first apollo mission ever landed there.

The so called "Mirror" was placed there to give a fixed point of reflection they could measure accuratly to, as before "Mirror", the reflection could come from anywhere on the moon due to the laser spot size being difussed by our atmosphere by the time it reached the moon.

Reading is a wonderful research tool, you should try it sometime.

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Why are you all arguing about sand's property to reflect or refract light? Who cares... they sent unmanned flights *before* manned one, to do anything else is retarded. Any of those unmanned flights could have contained the mirror used to reflect the laser. Much easier than sending a remote control robot to Mars if you ask me. Less distance, less deviation.
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That's another possibility.

But no, the alleged retro-reflectors are irrefutable proof to the MoonTards that MAN HAS GONE TO THE MOON. They have such religious fervor!

cruise
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I defy you to find anyone who thinks the reflectors are the best proof that humans landed on the Moon. It's not something I even bother to bring up in arguments as a rule for just the reason that it could have been done (and in fact was, by Russians) on unmanned flights.
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No moon hoax and JFK spontaniously perforated himself.
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I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve.
 Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778


Some of us get a little tired of people - pretty much without exception sad, ignorant, arrogant people who don't have any accomplishments of their own - calling the greatest achievement in human history a fake. That doesn't entirely excuse the language, but I understand the feeling behind it.
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No one would believe any of MY accomplishments either if I couldn't reproduce them.

"The Language" Listen to the recordings, your precious ass-tronauts know those words too.
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Good point. I can't help but think reasonable people would demand you to show and prove before they would even consider your results. And if anyone could prove otherwise would be allowed to do so!!!
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one would believe any of MY accomplishments either if I couldn't reproduce them.

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So if a friend of yours said they'd climbed Mount Everest, you'd make them do it again before you believed them?
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Actually a laser is more akin to ultra high frequency radio waves than it is to visible light.

Its more a single frequencey radio wave that just happens to be in the visible spetrum.

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I'd invite you to try sending a laser beam through a brick wall that radio waves pass through easily. Good luck.
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one would believe any of MY accomplishments either if I couldn't reproduce them.

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So if a friend of yours said they'd climbed Mount Everest, you'd make them do it again before you believed them?
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I would believe any credible evidence they presented.

I'd also have many clues to dertimine if it was true.

But, if I had caught that friend in any lie previously the subject would be moot because I do not tolerate liars.

If I had the slightest suspicion that my "friend" was being dishonest. I would never associate with them again.

We don't have that option with the current tyranny.
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The movie Capricorn One showed exactly how a hoaxing could be done without a lot of people even knowing it. Folks often say my grandfather, uncle, cousin, neighbor, worked on the project as evidence and that the landing occurred which may be true. It's not complete evidence that the moon landing wasn't faked it's just evidence those people worked for a contractor or NASA supposedly to make the lunar landing happen. I suggest those who have an open mind to look at that old 1975 movie starring James Brolin to get some idea how it could've been done without many people being the wiser.
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Actually a laser is more akin to ultra high frequency radio waves than it is to visible light.

Its more a single frequencey radio wave that just happens to be in the visible spetrum.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11320671


I'd invite you to try sending a laser beam through a brick wall that radio waves pass through easily. Good luck.
 Quoting: ToSeek


You are not understanding the difference between lasers and "movie Lasers".

Bricks??? I've seen lasers cut steel. Much harder than brick

Laser etchings of the twin towers were very popular during the False Patriotism of 9/11.
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or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who;

1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat.

2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration.

i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it.
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You just said god encourages people to explore then says he doesn't want us too. Why don't you explore your way to ONE opinion at a time please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11316490


i guess you have never practiced the delicate art of sarcasm, read the reply again, this time with some comprehension skills
 Quoting: david 1404180


Work on your sarcasm skills. I re read it and see the mistake I made, but you still have no point.
I had no idea belgians waffled so much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11316490



i will spoon feed it to you, so pay careful attention,

i believe we went to the moon

i believe we should continue to explore space

i am tired of people telling us god does not want us to do so

i tried not to use any big words or tricky phrases.
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This blows every other moon-hoax documentary out of the water.

Man went 230,000+ miles (460,000+ miles round trip!) into space in the 1960's. Since then, no country in the world has "had the budget" to go more than 400 miles into space. Are you effing kidding me??!!

Apollo Zero


Did you ApolloTards realize that lasers can be reflected off the natural lunar surface?

Where is your proof that the lasers are actually hitting retro-reflectors and not just bouncing off the surface?



PIN THIS
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That statement right there proves you are a major retard. Fucking you Tube video…lol
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The bottom line is that we know we are being lied to.

The gov admits to thousands of lies. Do you think it is no longer a good tactic to use? Lying somehow stopped being the way to get ahead unfairly?

Stop listening to anything they say and maybe they will die from lack of attention.

If Man went to the moon and has no reason to return, then I call the entire moon mission a failure, because the one thing they ended up proving is: Billions of dollars were spent to explore a wasteland when most of the earth is unknown.

A fools endeavor.


Let's focus all our nations efforet on exploring the mall of america. There are proven returns on investment.
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Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together?
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ask NASA since they meet GOD.
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Nasa meets god? where when how
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Another thing, my children's children ARE my grandchildren.
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your children's children, is a poetic term for grandchildren. did you study anything in high school other than metal shop?
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ask NASA since they meet GOD.
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Nasa meets god? where when how
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Another thing, my children's children ARE my grandchildren.
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your children's children, is a poetic term for grandchildren. did you study anything in high school other than metal shop?
 Quoting: david 1404180


I was pointing out that you said my grandchildren and my childrens' children would be living in two different worlds. They are the same children. And if my grand children are going to be living in a world of quantam displacement because of my disbelief of the moon landing, then dear god this mystery is getting deeper by the second.

I also have abstained from trying to insult you, but you have made three attempts at me so here goes:
If you would engage your brain in thought, you would understand that metal shop is the only place in school that science is actually used. My schools didn't offer a metal shop class. I was stuck in the useless AP bullshit.
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ask NASA since they meet GOD.
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Nasa meets god? where when how
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Another thing, my children's children ARE my grandchildren.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11316490


your children's children, is a poetic term for grandchildren. did you study anything in high school other than metal shop?
 Quoting: david 1404180


I was pointing out that you said my grandchildren and my childrens' children would be living in two different worlds. They are the same children. And if my grand children are going to be living in a world of quantam displacement because of my disbelief of the moon landing, then dear god this mystery is getting deeper by the second.

I also have abstained from trying to insult you, but you have made three attempts at me so here goes:
If you would engage your brain in thought, you would understand that metal shop is the only place in school that science is actually used. My schools didn't offer a metal shop class. I was stuck in the useless AP bullshit.
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Nasa meets god? where when how
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Another thing, my children's children ARE my grandchildren.
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your children's children, is a poetic term for grandchildren. did you study anything in high school other than metal shop?
 Quoting: david 1404180


I was pointing out that you said my grandchildren and my childrens' children would be living in two different worlds. They are the same children. And if my grand children are going to be living in a world of quantam displacement because of my disbelief of the moon landing, then dear god this mystery is getting deeper by the second.

I also have abstained from trying to insult you, but you have made three attempts at me so here goes:
If you would engage your brain in thought, you would understand that metal shop is the only place in school that science is actually used. My schools didn't offer a metal shop class. I was stuck in the useless AP bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11323047


no where in my text have i said your grandchildren would grow up in two different worlds. there is desire in our country, to abandon a space program. i live in a democracy and must abide the will of the majority. i do have the right to protest when those i see as heroes are called liars, and i have done so. this has been your third attempt to point out supposed incongruence in my writing skills. i humbly apologize if i have offended your sensabilities with a little cynicism in return. i offer you the privilege of the final word as i will not respond again, good day to you.
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Just watched it, its full of good info, thanks OP!
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sockpuppet

lmao
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I often wonder about people who have sold their soul for money.

Snake you make me feel good inside, because I know there is no amount of money or baubles or techs that can make me turn on my fellow human beings.

It's also disheartening to know how many people will.

Just like George hw Bush(leaque) bowed to the queen of england, so must SNAKE AIRLINES bow to NASA.

How much does a Nasa photoshopper get paid anyway?

Maybe I'm wrong, it seems the 99% would rather have an abusive govdaddy. Helps pass the time at the Blue Sky salt mine.
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lmao

What the fuck are you on?
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The chang'e 2 photos & full high res map, gives you your answer.

No, the surface of the moon can't be used as a reflector (a refractor, perhaps), but the numerous Russian probes that have reflectors in order to calculate topography, exist on the moon.

The Van Allen theory is blown way out of proportion. It's a belt, not a sphere. We can bypass it.

Anyway, look at the Chang'e 2 maps. Humans were/are up there. Tell me, you don't see mining operations. They're all over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430


What are they mining? Cheese?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11195578


Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more.

And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430


Not to mention uranium...
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Anybody else find it funny, that the video compared the liftoff of a low thrust rocket on a tiny craft in a low gravity vacuum- to a low thrust rocket on a significantly larger craft, that has to fight a greater gravity and atmospheric friction?

Even funnier is the use of 2 shill videos to prove his point. He goes to the trouble of gaining scientific data, then shoots himself in the foot by raping the most footage from that wack-job Bart Sibrel. Sibrel's a disinfo agent. A cab driver, that claimed he worked in broadcast news.

I believe Apollo didn't happen as it was shown, but this video is gonna make people believe even stronger that it did. The truth is out there folks & you won't find it on youtube or wikipedia.
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Haha, the shills are really getting worked up now that this thread is getting so many hits. They actually think that they appear to be normal posters.

cruisecruisecruise
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Haha, the shills are really getting worked up now that this thread is getting so many hits. They actually think that they appear to be normal posters.

cruisecruisecruise
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they love you because you made them "work".
cruisecruisecruise
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The movie Capricorn One showed exactly how a hoaxing could be done without a lot of people even knowing it. Folks often say my grandfather, uncle, cousin, neighbor, worked on the project as evidence and that the landing occurred which may be true. It's not complete evidence that the moon landing wasn't faked it's just evidence those people worked for a contractor or NASA supposedly to make the lunar landing happen. I suggest those who have an open mind to look at that old 1975 movie starring James Brolin to get some idea how it could've been done without many people being the wiser.
 Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778


Capricorn One was produced by Peter Hyams, the same man that produced the television broadcasts for the alleged Apollo mission.

Capricorn One was funded by NASA, and even supplied props.


cruise

Could it get any more ridiculous for you folks?

You've been had.
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Haha, the shills are really getting worked up now that this thread is getting so many hits. They actually think that they appear to be normal posters.

cruisecruisecruise
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they love you because you made them "work".
cruisecruisecruise
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50 cents a post you think?

cruise
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Haha, the shills are really getting worked up now that this thread is getting so many hits. They actually think that they appear to be normal posters.

cruisecruisecruise
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they love you because you made them "work".
cruisecruisecruise
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50 cents a post you think?

cruise
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no, a dollar.
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You are not understanding the difference between lasers and "movie Lasers".

Bricks??? I've seen lasers cut steel. Much harder than brick

Laser etchings of the twin towers were very popular during the False Patriotism of 9/11.
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Yes, lasers can cut steel, but you're talking about darn powerful lasers. My cellphone can generate a strong enough radio signal to go through a wall, but the equivalent power put into a laser wouldn't even get the wall hot.
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Haha, the shills are really getting worked up now that this thread is getting so many hits. They actually think that they appear to be normal posters.

cruisecruisecruise
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Chang'e 2, brother. It will show you what Apollo missions did not happen.

Your video is shillery. The fact that you support it makes you Shillius McShillington jr. Even worse, is you shill folks that agree with you.

Or perhaps you're the idiot who made the video?
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The movie Capricorn One showed exactly how a hoaxing could be done without a lot of people even knowing it. Folks often say my grandfather, uncle, cousin, neighbor, worked on the project as evidence and that the landing occurred which may be true. It's not complete evidence that the moon landing wasn't faked it's just evidence those people worked for a contractor or NASA supposedly to make the lunar landing happen. I suggest those who have an open mind to look at that old 1975 movie starring James Brolin to get some idea how it could've been done without many people being the wiser.
 Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778


Capricorn One has all kinds of problems with it, most notably the complete lack of communications delay between the astronauts and Mission Control. If they were really on Mars, each response would take minutes.

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