Game Over for NASA Moon-Landing Hoax | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11302304 Germany 02/23/2012 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are you all arguing about sand's property to reflect or refract light? Who cares... they sent unmanned flights *before* manned one, to do anything else is retarded. Any of those unmanned flights could have contained the mirror used to reflect the laser. Much easier than sending a remote control robot to Mars if you ask me. Less distance, less deviation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1161927 sure there are more questions, who filmed Armstrong, when he says the first blabla (where was the camera) on aonther film, when the shuttle starts from the moon, the cam moves up (following the shuttle) how? with an controller? etc. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8597527 United States 02/23/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why are you all arguing about sand's property to reflect or refract light? Who cares... they sent unmanned flights *before* manned one, to do anything else is retarded. Any of those unmanned flights could have contained the mirror used to reflect the laser. Much easier than sending a remote control robot to Mars if you ask me. Less distance, less deviation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1161927 That's another possibility. But no, the alleged retro-reflectors are irrefutable proof to the MoonTards that MAN HAS GONE TO THE MOON. They have such religious fervor! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 8597527 United States 02/23/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh well, the shilling doesn't work anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11316490 we all know the gov doesn't pick the smartest people to follow orders. Schill= Internet acne Frankly I'd probably give up my research the day these quislings start agreeing with me. How does the salmon know he's headed the right way? |
david User ID: 1404180 United States 02/23/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The astronauts reactions to the accusations is evidence enough. If they really went they would have embraced the "joke" by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11309134 Poor monkeys can't hide emotion. They even had a Christian way out of the bible swearing by sayind swearing is against gods law. But emotions rule the primate and his need to keep up his appearance gives his intentions away. or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who; 1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat. 2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration. i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10952430 Canada 02/23/2012 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The chang'e 2 photos & full high res map, gives you your answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430 No, the surface of the moon can't be used as a reflector (a refractor, perhaps), but the numerous Russian probes that have reflectors in order to calculate topography, exist on the moon. The Van Allen theory is blown way out of proportion. It's a belt, not a sphere. We can bypass it. Anyway, look at the Chang'e 2 maps. Humans were/are up there. Tell me, you don't see mining operations. They're all over. What are they mining? Cheese? Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more. And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The astronauts reactions to the accusations is evidence enough. If they really went they would have embraced the "joke" by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11309134 Poor monkeys can't hide emotion. They even had a Christian way out of the bible swearing by sayind swearing is against gods law. But emotions rule the primate and his need to keep up his appearance gives his intentions away. or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who; 1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat. 2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration. i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it. You just said god encourages people to explore then says he doesn't want us too. Why don't you explore your way to ONE opinion at a time please. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303897 United Kingdom 02/23/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The chang'e 2 photos & full high res map, gives you your answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430 No, the surface of the moon can't be used as a reflector (a refractor, perhaps), but the numerous Russian probes that have reflectors in order to calculate topography, exist on the moon. The Van Allen theory is blown way out of proportion. It's a belt, not a sphere. We can bypass it. Anyway, look at the Chang'e 2 maps. Humans were/are up there. Tell me, you don't see mining operations. They're all over. What are they mining? Cheese? Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more. And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too. Don't forget titanium, a very useful metal indeed. In fact, the Moon is pretty much made of the stuff! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The astronauts reactions to the accusations is evidence enough. If they really went they would have embraced the "joke" by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11309134 Poor monkeys can't hide emotion. They even had a Christian way out of the bible swearing by sayind swearing is against gods law. But emotions rule the primate and his need to keep up his appearance gives his intentions away. or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who; 1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat. 2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration. i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it. You just said god encourages people to explore then says he doesn't want us too. Why don't you explore your way to ONE opinion at a time please. Are you talking about defying god or gravity? If god didn't want the wright brothers to fly he's pretty weak, I believe I could have stopped them with a match. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The chang'e 2 photos & full high res map, gives you your answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430 No, the surface of the moon can't be used as a reflector (a refractor, perhaps), but the numerous Russian probes that have reflectors in order to calculate topography, exist on the moon. The Van Allen theory is blown way out of proportion. It's a belt, not a sphere. We can bypass it. Anyway, look at the Chang'e 2 maps. Humans were/are up there. Tell me, you don't see mining operations. They're all over. What are they mining? Cheese? Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more. And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too. Don't forget titanium, a very useful metal indeed. In fact, the Moon is pretty much made of the stuff! Who put all the Titanium ALLOY on the moon? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303960 Portugal 02/23/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more. And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too. Don't forget titanium, a very useful metal indeed. In fact, the Moon is pretty much made of the stuff! Who put all the Titanium ALLOY on the moon? GOD |
Betsy_B User ID: 3390778 United States 02/23/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When this is the only answer to the OP post, there must be some truth to the movie. I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve. |
Morpheus User ID: 729560 Canada 02/23/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth-Moon-Earth, also known as moon bounce, is a radio communications technique which relies on the propagation of radio waves from an Earth-based transmitter directed via reflection from the surface of the Moon back to an Earth-based receiver. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Bouncing radio waves off an object (aka radar) is not the same as bouncing light off an object. Are you that Fn stupid OP ? Obviously you are....Since you've "studied" so call moon landing hoax videos you are an expert. ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When this is the only answer to the OP post, there must be some truth to the movie. I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve. Excellent point. The reactions to race political or religioous attacks come from people thinking your attacking their parents belief system. Who was brought up with NASA and the gov as their belief system? These shills wouldn't care if you slandered their wives so why the moon landing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth-Moon-Earth, also known as moon bounce, is a radio communications technique which relies on the propagation of radio waves from an Earth-based transmitter directed via reflection from the surface of the Moon back to an Earth-based receiver. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Bouncing radio waves off an object (aka radar) is not the same as bouncing light off an object. Are you that Fn stupid OP ? Obviously you are....Since you've "studied" so call moon landing hoax videos you are an expert. ... Notice this post didn't come with an explanation of the difference? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10952430 Helium 3, Gold, Bauxite, probably more. And yes, this is probably a data mining thread, too. Don't forget titanium, a very useful metal indeed. In fact, the Moon is pretty much made of the stuff! Who put all the Titanium ALLOY on the moon? GOD Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? |
david User ID: 1404180 United States 02/23/2012 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The astronauts reactions to the accusations is evidence enough. If they really went they would have embraced the "joke" by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11309134 Poor monkeys can't hide emotion. They even had a Christian way out of the bible swearing by sayind swearing is against gods law. But emotions rule the primate and his need to keep up his appearance gives his intentions away. or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who; 1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat. 2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration. i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it. You just said god encourages people to explore then says he doesn't want us too. Why don't you explore your way to ONE opinion at a time please. i guess you have never practiced the delicate art of sarcasm, read the reply again, this time with some comprehension skills |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303960 Portugal 02/23/2012 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11303897 Don't forget titanium, a very useful metal indeed. In fact, the Moon is pretty much made of the stuff! Who put all the Titanium ALLOY on the moon? GOD Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? ask NASA since they meet GOD. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The astronauts reactions to the accusations is evidence enough. If they really went they would have embraced the "joke" by now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11309134 Poor monkeys can't hide emotion. They even had a Christian way out of the bible swearing by sayind swearing is against gods law. But emotions rule the primate and his need to keep up his appearance gives his intentions away. or perhaps it's simply righteous indignation for being called liars, by people who; 1. can not believe that mankind is not capable of performing such a wondrous feat. 2. can not believe in a god so benevolent, that he would create a universe full of wonder, and then encourage it's exploration. i can not believe we find ourselves in a time when there is virtually no space program. of course everyone knows god doesn't want us in space, just like he didn't want columbus to sail past the horizon, or the wright bros. to fly.. but rest assured you've done your good works. your grandchildren will grow up in a world where many nations will travel the trackless voids of space, will experience beautiful new things. but your children's children will live in a country that has as much effect on the future as belgium. you know, just the way god intended it. You just said god encourages people to explore then says he doesn't want us too. Why don't you explore your way to ONE opinion at a time please. i guess you have never practiced the delicate art of sarcasm, read the reply again, this time with some comprehension skills Work on your sarcasm skills. I re read it and see the mistake I made, but you still have no point. I had no idea belgians waffled so much. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? ask NASA since they meet GOD. Nasa meets god? where when how |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? ask NASA since they meet GOD. Nasa meets god? where when how Another thing, my children's children ARE my grandchildren. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8051464 United States 02/23/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NASA shills are on the way! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527 Seriously, watch this people. I've been studying moon-hoax documentaries for years and this is the one that seals the deal. Great post, OP. There should be some big-style shilling on this one! government posters dominate this and every other site out there. It's getting ridiculous! wheres the money coming from to pay for these people to go post all this crap? probably from tax money. I know! lets cut medicare nationwide so we can afford more government posters to try to shill the truth away... i am truly disgusted by the actions of our 'officials.' and if we really went to the moon, SOMEONE would have went back by now! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303960 Portugal 02/23/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? ask NASA since they meet GOD. Nasa meets god? where when how Why do you think that there is a show on History Channel called Ancient Aliens? believe me they meet GOD. |
ToSeek User ID: 9492698 United States 02/23/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay, that was a waste of half-an-hour (not more than that because I skimmed through it). Anyhow, here are the main arguments: - President Clinton hinted that the landings were faked. Others have noted that the real point was all the weird stuff that goes on in Washington and on TV. - It hasn't been done since. Amazing how no one has seen fit to spend $150 billion on a profitless exercise. - The Van Allen Belts are scary. This has been refuted a zillion times over. - The astronauts would overheat on the Moon. Ditto. - Von Braun said it would take a huge rocket to go directly to the Moon and back. The whole point of the quote being that you don't go directly to the Moon and back with the entire spaceship, as in fact the Apollo missions did not. - Grissom was murdered to keep him from blowing the whistle. Of course, he was absolutely the only astronaut who would have done so - all the other several dozen astronauts involved with the program could be relied upon to toe the line. - Something about seeing stars from the Moon. I skimmed through this, but it looked to be yet another quote (this makes three) taken completely out of context. - Von Braun went to the Antarctic and collected lunar meteorites that were used to fake the Moon rocks. Yeah, of course, you're going to fake a Moon landing, so you send the world's most famous rocket scientist on a high-profile expedition to collect the fakes. Not to mention that the first Moon meteorites weren't identified until after the Apollo missions, and then only by comparing them with the Apollo samples. - Flag waves on the Moon. In exactly one clip right when the astronaut walks past it and quite possibly brushes it. Even then, it continues to wave far longer than it would in an atmosphere. - Tired old complaints about the photos. Not worth addressing - there are plenty of other sources for this. - Something blocking the image of the Earth even though Armstrong says the camera is in the window. This is blatantly dishonest: the Armstrong quote, even though it's presented before the image with the Earth being partially blocked, is actually from NINE MINUTES LATER. Isn't it possible that the camera was moved in the meantime? - Aldrin profited off the moon missions by selling memorabilia. Yeah, big deal. - The lunar module would have to go really fast to get into orbit, and that's just ridiculous. Except to every rocket engineer who's actually looked at the data. - Scientists don't blow the whistle because it would jeopardize their careers. Scientists retire eventually. Why are they still keeping their mouths shut? - If you look at the progress of flight technology, Apollo is a statistical anomaly. This is about the only one I'd agree with. Somehow the US government decided to spend 6% of the entire federal budget for years on landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth. If NASA still had the same relative budget, it would get something like $250 billion a year, more than a dozen times its actual current budget. All in all, the video is obviously made by someone lacking almost any scientific or engineering understanding of the Apollo missions. It's no surprise it was made by Jarrah White, whose claims have been shredded repeatedly by much smarter people than me. (Google on "Jarrah white Jay Windley" for more.) |
ToSeek User ID: 9492698 United States 02/23/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve. Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778 Some of us get a little tired of people - pretty much without exception sad, ignorant, arrogant people who don't have any accomplishments of their own - calling the greatest achievement in human history a fake. That doesn't entirely excuse the language, but I understand the feeling behind it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303897 United Kingdom 02/23/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NASA shills are on the way! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8597527 Seriously, watch this people. I've been studying moon-hoax documentaries for years and this is the one that seals the deal. Great post, OP. There should be some big-style shilling on this one! government posters dominate this and every other site out there. It's getting ridiculous! wheres the money coming from to pay for these people to go post all this crap? probably from tax money. I know! lets cut medicare nationwide so we can afford more government posters to try to shill the truth away... i am truly disgusted by the actions of our 'officials.' and if we really went to the moon, SOMEONE would have went back by now! It's crazy, really. It's like Chris Columbus found the Americas in 1492, then sailed back to Spain and told Queen Isabella, "Yeah, we done that, now let's chill". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11316490 Why would god need to make titanium, if he felt it was necessary woulkdn't he have put it in the universe as apur metal not one that man had to blend together? ask NASA since they meet GOD. Nasa meets god? where when how Why do you think that there is a show on History Channel called Ancient Aliens? believe me they meet GOD. Ok I agree, whether its true or not though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11303897 United Kingdom 02/23/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve. Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778 Some of us get a little tired of people - pretty much without exception sad, ignorant, arrogant people who don't have any accomplishments of their own - calling the greatest achievement in human history a fake. That doesn't entirely excuse the language, but I understand the feeling behind it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11316490 United States 02/23/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I absolutely agree with you something must be right with your argument for folks to be name calling and cussing about a difference in opinion. For people to get bent out of shape discussing if you want to call it that whether or not the Moon landings were faked seems a bit odd. I can see if you were talking about religion, race, politics, even men verse women, but hoaxing the Moon landing? The OP must have hit a nerve. Quoting: Betsy_B 3390778 Some of us get a little tired of people - pretty much without exception sad, ignorant, arrogant people who don't have any accomplishments of their own - calling the greatest achievement in human history a fake. That doesn't entirely excuse the language, but I understand the feeling behind it. No one would believe any of MY accomplishments either if I couldn't reproduce them. "The Language" Listen to the recordings, your precious ass-tronauts know those words too. |