Game Over for NASA Moon-Landing Hoax

Recoil. How does it work.


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I will give a hundred bucks (EUR100,-) to the first person who can prove a single relevant evidential fact ever claimed by any hoaxmonger.
The Halcyon Dayz EVIDENCE or STFU! Challenge.

rockets don't use "gas"

rockets work based on transfer of mass. the state (liquid, solid, gas, plasma) of the mass that leaves the rocket has NO EFFECT* on the thrust provided.

FFS, they can use inert nitrogen thrusters in space because all you need is relative few molecules released in succession to move the ship in the opposite direction. Gas is used EXACTLY because of the reasons you think it wouldn't work.

the phrase "it's not rocket science" exists for a reason . . . if you aren't a rocket scientist, you should probably shut up about rocket science.

*discounting secondary effects like friction, etc

Satellites and the ISS are in space and were placed there by rockets. They can be seen and communicated with. Farther out are multiple other satellites and spacecraft. An easy one to prove is STEREO which consists of two satellites that see other sides of the sun than we do from Earth. These have seen sun spots BEFORE they were visible to arth. These were also put in place with rockets.

Rockets work.

oh... golly gee Mr. Wizard.... (with my finger in my dimple) thank you so much for that clear refutation of the facts. Now I don't have to think anymore with you thinking for me.

But do you have to yell?

LOL

the shrill thrill shills need to get your stories straight.
other silly frilly shills suggest the thrusters were a non-issue to begin with...

it is obvious ye been blinded by fairy dust or did puff the magic dragon scare you as a kid, or maybe the NASA NAZIS got ya and turned you into a ... ?

why don't you do something singularly unique and be the first 'NAZA NASI' to show me a HI-RES image of anything the ASTRONOTS left behind on the moon?

AND I AM NOT impressed by those BULLSHIT low low low res pixel 'PIXAR' images NASA has the average patri-idiot like ye buying into ....

Between 1969-72 the ASTRO-NOT took GREAT GREAT STUDIO worthy PICTURES with their eyes closed wearing big clunky gloves that should have been useless in a vaccum, and here we are 40 years later and not ONE HUMAN has gone beyond the SAFE ZONE of about 300 miles PLUS the only pictures of the Lunar surface are SHIT SHIT SHIT while images of UFOS get BETTER BETTER BETTER?

What does not make sense is how lousy fuzzy UFO images since the 1950s have improved and kept pace with CGI but yet the images we get back from the lunar surface have gotten worse?

Or should I say if the issue is contentious ... all of a sudden the image and the story becomes FUZZY WUZZY?

Even the shutter crazy Japanese tourists who sent up Selene to take pictures of the Moon forgot to put a decent HI RES camera on board?

p.s. BTW everything those LYING SOBs wanker ASTRO-NOTS said they did could have been done with robots.

ROBOTS always go first and the ASTRO-NOTS should follow, that is the protocol.

What was the rush to get to the MOON?
Because the dead president made a promise?

LOL LOL

that is the way science works
ROBOTS first
just like Mars?

ye are wankers or idiot clones yourself to believe otherwise.

ASTRO-NOTS never went.

selah

Last Edited by Raphael on 10/12/2013 11:53 AM

You are interpreting. It has never been the stance of anyone who understand the project that the Moon was "swept clear" by the descent engine and that explains the lack of airborne dust.

The explanation is simpler. No air.



Pixar makes IMAX films. They could easily render a still at any arbitrary resolution. What -- you think that just because it is a billion-dollar conspiracy, they can't use last-year's special effects?





Eyes closed? Where are you getting this stuff? The pictures were hardly studio, and many of them were scrubs; there's more than one picture of an astronaut's thumb (or, rather, the nearest equivalent).




Exactly. It doesn't make sense from a conspiracy viewpoint. If there was a conspiracy, they would provide images of whatever arbitrary resolution would satisfy unbelievers.

It only makes sense out in reality-land, where bandwidth and lens length are real constraints.



Bandwidth, and lens length. The lowest orbit yet on Lunar probe is 50 kilometers. Run down to the mall right now and tell me which off-the-shelf camera there will return a detailed picture of your car from fifty kilometers away.

And then explain why you are going to stop all scientific return from a satellite for a week just to download that one pic.




Hoaxies are ignorant about multiple fields, not just the space sciences. Read up on period robotics.

Or look at the capabilities of the Viking lander (launched a few years after Apollo) and compare that to what astronauts could accomplish.




They did. Unmanned landings were first, in several different series of probes.




It was a political goal.

But it was also a sensible goal. The sentimentality didn't hurt, but the real point was the exercise. "We chose to go to the Moon...because it is hard." It required intensive and collaborative work between industry and science, it jumpstarted a dozen industries, it got a new interest in what are now called STEM fields among students. It spun off commercial and military applications.

I am surrounded by experts and I can guarantee not one of ewe wankers has been to the moon and back.
No air between your ears?
I agree.



Duh I was making a dig, ya dig?
Do you NASA Nazis have a sense of humor?
Pixar makes non-IMAX films too herr expert.
geesh give it a rest.



oh sorry point and shoot
how they worked those gloves in that vacuum only a NASA NAZI knows.



it sure does...
ewe went off on a tangent gent.
comprehension problems?



50 km eh?
run down to the mall?
LOL

ya wanker, the NASA NAZIS had camera technology since the 1960s that could take a Hi-res image 3 inches across from 100 miles up, and the moon has no atmosphere so 50 km. should be a snap crackle and pop goes the weasel.

ewe are the weasel btw.

we have NOT gone above the safe zone i.e. low earth orbit since Dec. 1972 according to the official records wankers never ever question...

LOL

Because no human has ever gone above it to begin with.



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/15/2013 09:24 PM

Yes, they do. What's you point?




Only NASA knows? Which? Vacuum? Or space suit gloves?




Link them. Show the evidence for them. Spysats on Earth are heavy and have long lenses. They aren't dimestore cameras you can duct-tape on to the outside of a lightweight probe.

And, yes...the Lunar Orbiter got down to 50 centimeters. That's pretty damned good resolution for orbital photography, whatever you believe.

So if you have a problem with that, you should first specify how good an image you think is necessary. Specify, don't just wave your hands and say, "whatever is real, isn't enough, and whatever is enough, they didn't have."

Every time I see a reply like this It makes me laugh.

attacking the poster instead of refuting the material all while having the Caps Lock on............Priceless

The Real Question: What is the ROI for Apollo and NASA? What discoveries have bettered lives of Americans? How many private sector jobs has NASA created?

How many did the war in Iraq?



Actually, it did create a LOT of private-sector employment. And even more money for dishonest contractors with cozy connections.

The gloves seem to work fine in a vacuum for the people on the ISS and the Space Shuttle. And the Gemini missions. They also worked fine for the Soviet/Russian space walks. And they seem to work fine for Taikonauts.

Why wouldn't gloves that work in Earth orbit not work on the Moon?
Same vacuum.

You haven't provided anything other than your opinion. Please do a little research.

everywhere else in the world it is easy to prove that technology (miniaturization etc.) makes EVERYTHING cheaper, so I am not surprised that a NASA NAZI complains about hard times.

How much of that BS budget back in the heyday of theft and graft was consumed by NASA NAZI wankers ordering hammers that cost $700?

Good thing NASA doesn't run the banks dude.

patri-idiots are idiots ... especially those that reBLEAT idiot stats about budgets.

Yes budgets reflect the bigger picture, especially pointing out what the black ops are. ;)

your silly nilly POV suggests kindergarten is on recess.



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/16/2013 01:19 PM

different gloves

why would a cash strapped NASA NAZI outfit waste money on expensive gloves when cheaper ones should do fine?

Would an astroNOT need the same protection in a low earth orbit as an astroNOT would need on the moon fully exposed to the elements (a walk in the park eh?) ... does a kiddie like ye know the diff between walking on the moon which is about 250,000 miles away and being up in sky about 250 miles >>> as ALL astroNOTs have been because NOT ONE has gone beyond the low orbit threshold since Dec. 1972?

PhDUH can I suggest the SPACE STATION be renamed HD the Low Earth Orbiter - HD is Homer's Donut.
Mind if I ask do you have a PHDoH?

go back to shleep kindergarten dude ... I would not want sheepish ewe to miss your afternoon nap.

Last Edited by Raphael on 10/16/2013 02:06 PM

How so?

You seem to think you are being clever and terse. What you are being is obscure. No-one understands what it is you think is wrong with the gloves. If you want an honest answer, get off the horse and write a full sentence explaining what you mean.



Challenger.

NASA went through a phase of "do it cheap." That got them crashed probes and dead astronauts.

And the budget of later years wasn't enough to go to the Moon on top of the pet projects of other people (like the Shuttle).



Low Earth orbit is still vacuum.

What changes? In low Earth Orbit, the thermal situation is worse. You've got the Earth sitting there radiating infrared at you and bouncing visible light at you, and you also lose a big part of the sky for possible radiators. That's why you see the shuttle drifting along with cargo doors open; it is trying to radiate away some of that heat.

You are above atmosphere so x-rays, gamma, uncharged particles, and high-energy cosmic rays are all striking you.

What you get when you are enroute to the Moon; a better thermal situation, but more lower-energy charged particles, plus a non-zero chance of getting caught in a solar flare.

It isn't safer in LEO -- it is just different.

ye are a patri-idiot for sure.
now listen here kiddie after your nap get yourself a library card and stay off the internet, it is making ye more stupid by the moment.

The Earth is surrounded by a blanket of air, which we call the atmosphere. It reaches over 560 kilometers (348 miles) from the surface of the Earth.

How many astroNOTs have been beyond 348 miles since 1972 OR ever in fact? LOL LOL LOL

It appears according to you the village patri-idiot that the atmosphere that the low orbit space station flies around in is MORE hostile than what the astroNOTS encountered on their 500,000 mile roundtrips?

Who let out the clowns during recess?



So what does these simpleton TRUTHS reveal about your voodoo outer space program?

All of it tells me ye are a patri-idiot not far removed from Dumber and Dumber.



The upper and lower layers of the thermosphere will be studied more closely during the Tethered Satellite Mission

The upper and lower layers of the thermosphere will be studied more closely during the Tethered Satellite Mission

The upper and lower layers of the thermosphere will be studied more closely during the Tethered Satellite Mission

The upper and lower layers of the thermosphere will be studied more closely during the Tethered Satellite Mission

Will they be TETHERING a astroNOT to the satellite too?

So EWE mean still no astroNOTS daring to leave low earth orbit ... not even approach the upper limits of the MIDDLE atmosphere?



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/16/2013 02:30 PM

You still haven't provided anything other that your opinion except for adding some baseless insults.

What different elements are astronauts exposed to on moon besides the surface temperature & dust? BTW, there is no ambient temperature on the Moon, so only the actual surface gets hot/cold.

What is the difference? You have failed to provide any information to back up your claims.

And if you can't contribute to a discussion without making insults, I think you need a nap, kid.

go back one step and read my last post to the other patri-IDIOT who beLIEves everything that Uncle Sam shows them on the 'idiot-box' the 'boob tube' and 'ewe tube' too.

Bible + Jesus the 'Sun-of-a-gun god' was a con rigged since 70 AD
TV game shows were cons rigged in the 1950s
TV Apollo the Sun gods travelling to the Moon 9 times was a con rigged between 1968-72
TV + WMD post 911 conned Christians into going on a Crusade in Iraq looking for WMD, it all proves what?
Are you going to force me watch WWII newsreels and make me cheer for the patri-idiots next?

All of the above PROVES to me that thousands of IGNORANT sheeple can be in on a conspiracy and not even know it.

The wanker walking on water, and 'we the sheeple' wanting to beLIEve it rings true with Apollo too.


Last Edited by Raphael on 10/16/2013 02:51 PM

Wrong.

Read the material you quoted. The atmosphere doesn't have a clear boundary.

If you think the protection of atmosphere is identical through its depth, then go ahead an open a door the next time you are on a transatlantic flight.

You can WALK (aka mountaineer) above the death zone; where there is too little oxygen to sustain life. At the height of commercial airliners (up to 13 km) cosmic rays are already several times stronger (actually, the cosmic ray background is already higher if you live in Denver or other high-altitude cities).

The Kaman line is at 100 km, and by this point you are above 99.9999 % of the atmosphere by mass. At around 150 hm is when meteorites burn up and somewhere around there is the ozone layer as well; by the time we get to the ISS we are above almost all the protection from ultraviolet, neutral particles, primary cosmic rays (even though some of the showers start even higher up, we are already in a zone with a mean free path of over a kilometer for air molecules.

Am I saying there is no protection at the level of the ISS? Hardly. IT is still within the Earth's zone of magnetic influence. But the thin wisps of atmosphere at that height are nearly useless as protection.

ye say that with such conviction...mr. 'no' brainer

the NASA stooge (you) is now going to use semite semantics, this is the next ploy in the manual?

ye are splitting hares yet ye probably can't tell me why christians beLIEve in shit like easter bunnies based on an easter jesus, and why Apollo Sun God Heroes pretended to go through a rite and ritual of going to the moon 9 times?

jesus walked on water and the patri-idiot astroNOTs walked on the moon too ...

LOL LOL




PhDoh no that is not what I think.
It is in fact a thought that crept into your pea brain sir.
Here is what I think.
I think flying in a low earth orbit hundreds of miles inside the Van Allen belts is far safer than OUTSIDE the Van Allen belts and flying around for 500,000 miles...dodging cosmic bullets on your way to the moon and back again.



I also think you are NOT a NASA stooge.
I think ye are three stooges in one...dumb, dumber, and dumbest.



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/16/2013 03:45 PM

You just made a 180 there. First you argued the air would protect you. Now you don't...so you switch to the magnetic field instead.

Which I never argued against.

But you misunderstand just what the magnetic field does for us here on the ground. It touches only lower-energy charged particles. That's it. Higher-energy ones are merely deflected -- they still lance down through the skies in a shower of pions, and can be detected under several meters of solid rock.

X-rays, gamma rays, are moderated almost not at all. Our atmosphere blocks UV pretty well, but at a level below where the ISS flies. Same for the around 20% reduction of visible light.

For pretty much everything save the solar wind, the ISS is just as exposed as a spacecraft on the Moon would be.

And the thermal environment is much harsher.

And I apologize for all the qualifiers above, but the poster is nearly incoherent, I have a busy morning, and it isn't worth my time to double-check whether, say, the kaman line is 100 miles or 100 km. Much less try to boil down the actual absorption across spectrum at different depths of the atmosphere into a single statement.

You still haven't provided anything. None of those points have anything to do with space suit gloves.

Please provide some actual pertinent proof of your space glove claims or GTFO.

Heck, at this point I'd be happy if he would just clarify what he is trying to say about the gloves.

Why don't they get the NASA moon suits and use them to clean up Fukushima? I mean they could take the amount of rads on the moon they can take the rads at Fukushima.

Different environment.

A lot less radioactive in general (The Moon). Generally speaking, mostly particular stuff -- electrons from the solar wind, that sort of thing. Not a lot of gamma, or neutrons.

Hard to move in the suit. In fact, with the full PLSS I think you would have great difficulty standing up for long. The suits are designed to keep air in, and are way too stiff for wandering around a construction site. Also, you'd overheat; the porous-plate sublimator requires vacuum.

So pretty much a rotten design all the way around for trying to work at a power plant. Especially one that's a mess and filled with debris.

UR a patri-idiot who has been arguing with themselves for quite some time.

Seeing as ye have taken 'we the sheeple' on a tour of lalala land can you now please define something else for me?

I wonder if a nuts and bolts NASA NAZI can now define what the ethnosphere is or perhaps the noosphere?



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/17/2013 08:49 AM

PhDUH you don't need the same kind of protection inside the Van Allen belts in low earth orbit that you would need for a walk on the moon outside the Van Allen belts.

period

are you just plain stupid or what?



but why does that matter...?
going to the moon wrapped up in alcan foil was a piece of cake ... they had no water or soil shielding, the most effective kind?

But then again NOBODY has gone to the moon and back so it is obvious why NOBODY has developed problems due to over-exposure of radiation.

Especially the fellas who passed through the radiation belts more than ONCE?

Were those astroNOTs supermen dodging the solar winds immune to the dangers or had they proved themselves bonafide LIAR LIARS who you could trust?
Yup that is the acid test all of the astroNOTs had to pass.

can ye keep a SSSecret?

Having undergone many psychological tests the astro-NOTS were deemed to be certified and valuable 'YES men' to the 'holy cause' or should I say they were now G-Men who defied laws of 'G' etc. etc. etc.?

The simple reason nobody has got sick or died out in space is because we have not been beyond the Van Allen belts.

And when they announce they are going to the Moon to set up a launch station for the trip to Mars ... guess what?

That will be the FIRST time we REALLY REALLY go to the moon.
Right now the SS Space Station housing the NASA NAZIs is really just a big laboratory a few hundred miles up in the sky filled to the brim with NASA NAZI rats who are themselves part of the ongoing study.

Maybe the astroNOTs are lead to beLIEve that they are part of Team Chosen?

I find it odd more divers get sick on earth descending into the depths of the ocean than sending astroNOTs to the Moon and back?

who said this?



HZE is probably the smoking gun or should I say the 'bullet' shot from the smoking gun a SN that will expose the ruse.
Just like WTC7 is another smoking gun.

That is one thing I like about science ... those that follow end up exposing the LIES and idiot beLIEfs of those that came before.


Last Edited by Raphael on 10/17/2013 09:56 AM

NASA not having been back to the moon in 40+ years really does behave like it never did go to the moon in the first place.



interesting video at this link here:
[link to ronabbass.wordpress.com]

what do 911 and Apollo both have in common?

they were what you could only call anomaLIES.

The 1st anomaLIE:
Only 3 buildings have ever collapsed due to fire and they all happened on 911 in the same place on the same day, WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.
So it all adds up to '37' to ME. (WTC1+2 and 7)

The 2nd anomaLIE:
ONLY APOLLO the SUN GOD got past the Van Allen Belts to the MOON a rite-geous 9 times?
ONLY APOLLO made it to the MOON ... AHA the Eagle of sAINT John another myth has landed?



LoL LoL

Did ya know that if you study patterns, you start to see patterns suggesting those that follow patterns are still following the same patterns laid down long long ago?

And if anything should go crash and boom onto the surface of the Moon it sounds like a ma-BELL?

hello hello is anybody home?

Ye realize your knowledge of what a Bell and Liberty represent is a cracked pot of patri-idiotic flag waving nonsense...?

Whether ya wave a flag on the moon or in Baghdad it is all designed to tug on your heART strings and fu*k with your feeble MiNd that is obviously ignorant of the language called SS.

S igns
S ymbols

Funny AND ironic how the 'Mythbusters' did not use myth to bust the NASA NAZIs?



Last Edited by Raphael on 10/17/2013 10:57 AM

You're a fruitcake loon