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White Preacher says Whitney Houston is in hell *Black followers agree* *Video*

 
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"Minister Justin Miller tears down the lies told at Whitney Houston's funeral by the false prophets, r&b singers, and actors. Nothing but the Word of the True Living God!"

He brings up some good points.
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Whitney was a child. Children don't go to hell.

Bobbie Brown is going to hell.
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Please give me a break ... such a blatant statement as this one is narrow-minded dribble that's being spouted out without any true wisdom or insight to back it. Such uncaring and wreckless thoughtlessness can create great harm for other beings and should, at best, be disregarded.

No matter what religion beliefs one harbors, offer up thoughts of healing & remediation for this be-ing, Whitney, if you genuinely care; give sincere prayers for not only this woman but also her family/friends that are missing her so much ... remember, she was a real human/e being, a person that is now in a spiriutal state of transition beyond our limited & distorted view of reality.

Sincerely, I humbly ask: consider how is it that we are to really know any truths about such things as this topic by looking to our so-called leaders in these most deceptive, distorted & tumultuous times as these on this planet in this particular time cycle - huh???

By study of all ancient cultures, teachings, mythologies, and religions, it can be found to be established firmly that one of our basic human responsibilities is to make sincere efforts towards generating thoughts, words, and deeds that promote qualities such as kindness, caring & compassion, helpfulness & turning the "other" cheek = to create righteousness & forgiveness towards others in all situations and in all ways possible ... and these form the true core tenents of the Christian faith too & are cited in basic precepts of most all global religions.

Keep in mind always that in this world there are many ones to avoid,, that many are false prophets or false teachers, false leaders not worthy of our attention or veneration; and just as many are attention-seekers, money &/or noteriety-seekers - so on ..... please refrain from buying into any foolish & wrongful ploys that can lead to the wrongful path of "better than thou" mob mentality - such as stoning to death those that are condemned as sinners or cases leading to killing one's own children in acts of murder for supposed family honor, as some have done!

Open your own mind along with your heart; to seek out the many, many sources of wisdom available for all those who seek such with an earnest & inquiring heart. Seek out those teachers & spirit guides that naturally exude good vibes = a field that you can actually sense like a feeling within your own self when simply being around them ---> like the individual is radiating wisdom-compassion-love from within their own heartcenter; such ones generally give meaningful guidance with loving & tender oversight. It is best to avoid those teachers that seem lacking in such qualities and instead seem to be cold, harsh and mean-minded, often ranting in disharmony and wanting to create a state of fearful obediance in others & dread of punishment.

On such example is the wisdom dating back to earliest times and found in the vast continent of India & its northern areas such as Tibet, Butan, & Mongolia and China* plus many other regions all throughout that part of the world (*although the current rulership of China steeped in their evil ways work desperately to destroy & eliminate all remnants of such ancient teachings) ...

A very good book on the natural state of dying & death -- and is like taking a fascinating journey -- is this one by a Tibetan teacher named Sogyal Rinpoche:
[link to www.rigpa.org]

Book: The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying

[link to www.rigpa.org]

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Deeper study for those wanting more intensive study is the ancient book titled: The Tibetan Book of the Dead,, which is thought to have been established about 1,300 years ago by hidden 'terma' teachings derived from a very enlightened, god-like being named "Padmasambhava" (similar to a Guru - Lama and in Vedic terminology would be considered as a Mahavatar).

This source linked below gives some background and provides a good way to study the original English translation by Dr. Evans-Wentz:

THE TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD
(OR THE AFTER-DEATH EXPERIENCES OF THE BARDO PLANE)


by Karma-glin-pa (Karma Lingpa)
English translation by Lāma Kazi Dawa-Samdup
Compiled and Edited by W. Y. Evans-Wentz
E-book by Summum

[link to www.summum.us]

+++ Last thought: many other cultures have similar teachings and basic precepts as these sources cited above +++

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May we not only humbly seek such "Human/e" qualities as these listed below, but within our own self ~ aka as the **Heart-Center** ~ make genuine efforts to generate them for the benefit of all sentient beings & Divine Creation:

Blessings - Prayers - Charity - Compassion - Truth - Courage - Honor - Dignity - Humility - Respect - Repentance - Foregiveness - Selfless Service & Wisdom

OM AH HO

TOPAZ
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Yu'all ....... going to Hell. Hook line and sinker. There is no way out at all except when the love gift dish is coming your way. There may be a one week little reprive for you, get my drift. See you next Sunday brother.
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And both are too ignorant to see she was in a hell before she died...that's why she's dead! Now, your living GOD has created an even great hell for this poor soul to go to? Wow people...WOW! Listen please YOU ARE in hell NOW if you are not totally in love with life. Has Whitney, or has ANY ONE who has taken that road not met tragedy in one form or another? She turned to drugs...others turned to religion both are addictive and just as "bad" for your souls growth! Both racial groups of FOLLOWERS are doing what all followers do, believe the one who is leading them as they follow to his/hers tune. And since humans are eager and ready to believe whatever comes easiest, there will never be a shortage of them followers or so-called leaders.
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And both are too ignorant to see she was in a hell before she died...that's why she's dead! Now, your living GOD has created an even great hell for this poor soul to go to? Wow people...WOW! Listen please YOU ARE in hell NOW if you are not totally in love with life. Has Whitney, or has ANY ONE who has taken that road not met tragedy in one form or another? She turned to drugs...others turned to religion both are addictive and just as "bad" for your souls growth! Both racial groups of FOLLOWERS are doing what all followers do, believe the one who is leading them as they follow to his/hers tune. And since humans are eager and ready to believe whatever comes easiest, there will never be a shortage of them followers or so-called leaders.
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Exactly. She was in hell. She's gone home to a better existence.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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Don't worry. She is in haven singing God Glory. He will never give her this voice if it wasn't to sing for him. This white preacher is stupid and idiot.
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Whitney was a child. Children don't go to hell.

Bobbie Brown is going to hell.
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"Hey, there, people
I'm Bobby Brown.
They say I'm the cutest
Boy in town.
My car is fast,
My teeth is shiny.
I tell all the girls
That they can kiss my heinie."
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It's up to God.
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I would doubt that God as we know him would give this loud mouth rednecked sorry excuse for a pastor the ability to discern who is going to heaven and who is not. Rather than spending his time traumatizing the families of the dead, he would be much better off spending his time spreading the real word of God as preached by Jesus when he was on this earth. And Jesus did NOT condemn ANYONE to hell (although as the son of God - God in the form of man on this earth, he probably had the power and ability to do so, yet he did not use that power for punishment or harm.) Rather our Lord preached a doctrine of forgiveness and love for all men. He taught that all of our sins could be forgiven in an instant simply by believing in him and accepting his atonement on the cross for the sins of this world and it's people.

I don't hear this vile little man saying anything about THAT. He's too busy telling the public and Miss Houstons' family who are still grieving that their beloved daughter is in hell!

I don't know anything about Whitney Houston's life, and even less about her death. I believe that it is up to God to judge her and decide her eternal destination based on her acceptance or rejection of Jesus while she was alive on this earth.

NO ONE ELSE HAS the power to do that or to make that determination. NO ONE.

By the way - why does this "white preacher" spend so much time and effort trying to sound like an uneducated black speaking in some ghetto-black style dialect? Can anyone really understand more than about every third or forth word that he speaks? I cannot.
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That many in this nation are openly opposed to the LORD GOD, the doctrine of Christ, and the Holy Spirit, is a no brainer! Just watch mainstream news! Liberal humanist traditions are the foundation of the laws of this land.
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"No, I told you a million times. Our church is gonna be classy! I'm Justin Miller! We'll have a podium wide enough for me, my two holy bouncers, and, most critically, our holy shout-out number. We'll have a bangin banner as wide as the podium with some clouds and the words Church, Lord, God, and Jesus. Also, we'll get one of them fake trees to show we ain't just some regular operation. Hold up. Hold up. Make it 4 trees...and a little bush to set down in front. I want the bouncers to hold up open Bibles the entire time and follow anything I say with nothing but MHM, YEP, AMEN, or PRAISE THE LORD. For visual effects, I want our website to bounce around near the bottom and a blue screen in the back for whenever Brother Jeremiah can figure out how to make it look like we're standing in heaven."
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No one is in hell and no one is in heaven.
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What a bitch !

Offer him a contract for a 100 million dollars, and he would cut his own wrist to supply the blood required for the signature.

Whitney is probably laughing her ass off at this foolishess.

Stare into the abyss if you must, and whisper one word into the darkness...Immortal. One who will never cease to be.
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"No, I told you a million times. Our church is gonna be classy! I'm Justin Miller! We'll have a podium wide enough for me, my two holy bouncers, and, most critically, our holy shout-out number. We'll have a bangin banner as wide as the podium with some clouds and the words Church, Lord, God, and Jesus. Also, we'll get one of them fake trees to show we ain't just some regular operation. Hold up. Hold up. Make it 4 trees...and a little bush to set down in front. I want the bouncers to hold up open Bibles the entire time and follow anything I say with nothing but MHM, YEP, AMEN, or PRAISE THE LORD. For visual effects, I want our website to bounce around near the bottom and a blue screen in the back for whenever Brother Jeremiah can figure out how to make it look like we're standing in heaven."
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So true. And the worst of it is that idiot peoples will follow him.
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Clearly this guy has no knowledge of scripture WHATSOEVER.

If Whitney repented in her dying minutes, before slipping into unconsciousness, they she will escape Hell.
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So these bitches think they're God and pass judgement huh?
Will they be in for a surprise.
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white preacher trying to sound like a black preacher.
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Whitney was a child. Children don't go to hell.

Bobbie Brown is going to hell.
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May we not only humbly seek such "Human/e" qualities as these listed below, but within our own self ~ aka as the **Heart-Center** ~ make genuine efforts to generate them for the benefit of all sentient beings & Divine Creation:

Blessings - Prayers - Charity - Compassion - Truth - Courage - Honor - Dignity - Humility - Respect - Repentance - Foregiveness - Selfless Service & Wisdom

Topaz,
Once again you have enlightened us to the Best meaning of "Rest In Peace". And at long last Whitney has hers. Thank you for your wisdom and heart.hf
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Christ said, no man is good, not one! He also said not to worship him, but to worship the LORD GOD! Psuedo-Christianity teaches worship of Jesus Christ, yet Christ himself said not to! Som'tin' wrong I'd say!
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"Minister Justin Miller tears down the lies told at Whitney Houston's funeral by the false prophets, r&b singers, and actors. Nothing but the Word of the True Living God!"

He brings up some good points.
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He's right..if scripture is true which i personally believe its true..Whitney Houston is indeed in hell right now. I am no saint myself..i am not the type of person to shove my beliefs into someone that does not believe what i do but my own opinion agrees with what this man has said. I also believe the "black american culture" has a very bad influence on people and i am not racist in any way...the preacher man in the video is spot on.
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That WHITE PRECHER will bve LICKIN' Whitney's



crackheaded PUZZZZZZZZZZZZY IN HELL!!!!!!!



lolatu
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So these bitches think they're God and pass judgement huh?
Will they be in for a surprise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278422


no they do not think they are "God" and men of God are allowed to pass judgement on those that "claim" to be men or women of God. Its in scripture...

Here's the problem why so many get offended today..the gospel that is preached today is a very very watered down version. in other words its not taught the way it use to be taught..most of it is spoken in a way not to offend people, not to lose people from their congregation or lose money from their members. Its not just that..i just think and feel that the "hard truth" is shunned upon today.
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He makes a good point. He said if he were like the other preachers who said "Whitney is in heaven" he wouldnt be attacked but people attack him for "judging" but sayin "Whitney is in heaven" is judging too.

He also made a good point about preachers who say they dont judge. Its because they are living in the wrong. What does the bible say about judging?

You will be judge with the same measuring tool you judge others with. So if hes prepared for that then preach on! Im not a homosexual so its okay for me to judge a homosexual but to say homosexuals are going to hell and I live a homosexual life style that means im going to hell because I just judged them to hell and the same measuring tool will be used on me.
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He makes a good point. He said if he were like the other preachers who said "Whitney is in heaven" he wouldnt be attacked but people attack him for "judging" but sayin "Whitney is in heaven" is judging too.

He also made a good point about preachers who say they dont judge. Its because they are living in the wrong. What does the bible say about judging?

You will be judge with the same measuring tool you judge others with. So if hes prepared for that then preach on! Im not a homosexual so its okay for me to judge a homosexual but to say homosexuals are going to hell and I live a homosexual life style that means im going to hell because I just judged them to hell and the same measuring tool will be used on me.
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What???

You have completely misunderstood whatever it is you are trying to defend (I'd like to see an actual Bible quote). By your understanding, then we can all be horrendous sinners & be saved anyway as long as we don't judge that sin! I think I'll murder someone today, then become a Wiccan- & I'll be ok as long as I don't judge murderers or those who worship a false god. Dude are you crazy???
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He better quit judging, No one knows what side of the gulf Whitney Houston or anyone else went to. It is none of our business, we are not to judge, that is up to God The Father.
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He makes a good point. He said if he were like the other preachers who said "Whitney is in heaven" he wouldnt be attacked but people attack him for "judging" but sayin "Whitney is in heaven" is judging too.

He also made a good point about preachers who say they dont judge. Its because they are living in the wrong. What does the bible say about judging?

You will be judge with the same measuring tool you judge others with. So if hes prepared for that then preach on! Im not a homosexual so its okay for me to judge a homosexual but to say homosexuals are going to hell and I live a homosexual life style that means im going to hell because I just judged them to hell and the same measuring tool will be used on me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11330401


What???

You have completely misunderstood whatever it is you are trying to defend (I'd like to see an actual Bible quote). By your understanding, then we can all be horrendous sinners & be saved anyway as long as we don't judge that sin! I think I'll murder someone today, then become a Wiccan- & I'll be ok as long as I don't judge murderers or those who worship a false god. Dude are you crazy???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1852977


When we die all souls go to heaven, which side of the gulf in heaven a person goes to is none of our business. God does the judging.
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So these bitches think they're God and pass judgement huh?
Will they be in for a surprise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1278422


no they do not think they are "God" and men of God are allowed to pass judgement on those that "claim" to be men or women of God. Its in scripture...

Here's the problem why so many get offended today..the gospel that is preached today is a very very watered down version. in other words its not taught the way it use to be taught..most of it is spoken in a way not to offend people, not to lose people from their congregation or lose money from their members. Its not just that..i just think and feel that the "hard truth" is shunned upon today.
 Quoting: Cat Mouth


We are to judge a person by their fruit only. We are never to say which side of the gulf someone went to. that is none of our business. God and God alone decides who goes where.

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