Response to "Game over Nasa....."

Good post I can see you took a lot of time writing that. Problem is that, that's exactly their plan.

They distract you from what is going on right now infront of your own eyes.

where was the lunar lander stored is my qusetion??

Well exactly, but aren't these valid questions that could easily be answered if it is common knowledge our technology allowed us to accomplish this amazing feat?? I've read that a cell phone has more computing power, by ALOT, than what was in the Apollo technology. I sure as hell wouldn't trust my life with my cell phone leading me into outer space!! lol

I believe that section that blasted off the moon and belly flopped into the ocean is at the Smithsonian museum. I've also say that if you see it in person, you can easly tell that the opening bay door is way too small to exit the astronauts in their full gear.... Again, just what I heard, I've never been there in person...

excellent post. logical questions.

should have been "I've also read that if you see it...." my bad

I'm the same OP. I've had those same questions all along and they NEVER get answered, especially the first one. Yes, they DID fake footage and pics just in case. So how can it ever be proven either way when finding a legit fake therefore does not disprove the idea that they did make it.

There is another side to all of this of course. Why would they fake sound recordings of the astronaughts radioing back to base claiming to see "other craft" following them to the moon and seeming to monitor them? I've got some of these audio clips on my USB flash drive, but I can't recall where I got them from exactly.

EXACTLY!!! NASA can put an end to this by just showing the side by side footage. Game over. "Here's us in the studio, and here's our beloved astronauts on the moon making history...NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL YOU NON BELIEVERS!"...LOL Seems easy to me....

I just hope all those that always shoot down someone not believing the official moon landing story would add to my post, and educate me to these questions that are valid...no?

It's amazing,,,you ask solid, scientific questions to an event that most believe on faith really happened, and almost no responses. The original post "Game over for NASA" has 95% name calling and stating everyone is full of shit and a constant borrage of responses.

It really is no wonder why orchestrated events can play out right in front of our eyes, followed by a bullshit story,,,and the world believes it without a second of doubt. Then,,god forbid someone questions it,,,they are either spit on, or ignored. It's amazing how the same goes on here....

Unbelievable......

OK..let's clear the air a bit. I shall try to address some of your questions.

While there have been internet rumors for quite a while regarding NASA having shot "backup" footage in case of a communications failure, I have never seen any official admission that such film ever existed.

As to the fuel needed to get to the moon and back you need to consider a few things about orbital mechanics. First, 90%+ of the fuel used by any rocket is consumed in the first few minutes of flight. This is because you need to escape from the earths gravity well. Once in orbit around earth, very small amounts of thrust (fuel) is needed to effect large changes in the orbit. The fuel needed to get to the moon and back was carried in the relatively small "service module" to which the Apollo capsule itself was attached. (As for the LEM - Lunar Excursion Module - it was stacked below the service module on the Saturn rocket. Upon reaching orbit, the LEM was undocked - the Apollo capsule/service module was rotated 180' and redocked with the LEM which made the trip on the nose of the capsule.) Other than the initial burn to leave earth orbit, a couple of course corrections enroute and the deceleration burn behind the moon, the entire trip from earth to the moon was accomplished in a coasting mode - no fuel was consumed at all.

Other than the Van Allen belt itself, the translunar radiation isn't really much of a concern. The structure of the spacecraft itself (just like the structure of the ISS) was sufficient shielding for the amount of time spent enroute. Except for the possibility of a solar storm there really was not much of a radiation hazard on the trip. The Van Allen belt isn't much of a hazard really considering the short duration of exposure while passing through or near the belt. I don't recall any Russian cosmonauts being "fried" in space (source?), although they did have a couple burn up on re-entry.

Yes, the temperature on the moon in direct sunlight is somewhere in excess of 200'F. However, the temperature in the "shade" on the moon is somewhere around -200F. There is no atmosphere to conduct heat or cold on the lunar surface. The "moon suits" included a network of tubes which circulated cooling water from the suit to a heat sink within the backpack. If the suit got too warm, it was a simple matter of turning so that the astronaut himself "shaded" the backpack and the cooling fins. If memory serves, the astronauts reported that they had to keep moving around because their shady side was WAY too cold while the sunny side was too hot.

I have no idea how much the LEM weighed, but the onboard fuel was sufficient for the final braking immediately before touchdown and the subsequent liftoff from the lunar surface. They were concerned that they would use too much fuel slowing for the landing thus the wait till the last possible second before slowing for the touchdown. Remember that the moon has only about 1/6 the gravity of the earth and the LEM was built as light weight as humanly possible. (ETA: Also keep in mind that the majority of the LEMs structure and thus weight was left on the moon. Only the crew compartment (about the size of two old fashioned phone booths with a rocket motor on the bottom) lifted off back into lunal orbit to dock with the Apollo capsule/service module which remained in lunar orbit with the third astronaut onboard. The LEM crew compartment didn't even have a place to sit! The astromauts stood up for the entire trip. It was more of a space-faring motorcycle than a proper ship..LOL)

Just an FYI - many of your questions were addressed in the movie "Apollo 13" starring Tom Hanks.

Hope that helps to answer some of your concerns.

Last Edited by Tholidor on 02/23/2012 08:17 PM

I really appreciate your response to my questions, I really do, but again, no solid scientific evidence to diffuse the questions. I agree, once out of the atmosphere, not as much fuel needed,,,but enough to propel the craft all those miles to the moon, land, blast off, meet up with their circling craft, and then have enough fuel to make it all the way back. Have you seen the size of their module?

As for your answer to the temps.....c'mon, they'd be doing the 'jitterbug' dance the entire time if their suit temp was going from 200 degrees F, to -200 degrees F every time they turned around??? What kind of micro processor were they using, and how much water were they carrying to pull that off??? There had to be a cooling unit, and a heating unit at the exact same time to keep them alive,,,no???

I know you are trying to answer these in an intelligent way,,,but WOW,,,I wouldn't stake my reputation on those responses.

ps---I will find a source for the Russian astronauts...

pps---I did see Apollo 13 hoping that these would be addressed, and they weren't. Unless you are willing to believe "our suits are good enough to protect us from radiation and the extreme cold and heat on the moon...." Ummm, that's not an explanation...

OK - one more time:

Fuel: Very little needed after leaving earth orbit. Again, if memory serves, the deorbit burn was about 5 mins. the lunar insertion burn was about 3 minutes and the course correction burns were measured in seconds. Other than that, no fuel was used going to and from the moon. And those manuevers were using a very small rocket motor on the service module. Gravity did all the work on the round trip. The LEM carried its own fuel supply. They were, in effect, falling the whole way with no fuel required.

Temps: Remember, one side is in sunlight while the other side is in shade. All that was needed to maintain a relatively comfortable temperature was a small pump to keep the water circulating from the hot side to the cold side with a small radiator to dissipate some excess heat in between. Not really much of an engineering problem there.

Actually I have seen an Apollo command module up close and personal. It is tiny, no doubt about it. BUT...

The command module is a very, very small part of an otherwise huge system. The service module was approx 19 times larger than the command module and crammed with fuel, oxygen etc. The command module/service module/LEM package is all that went to the moon. Only the service module/command module came back. The service module was abandoned shortly before re-entry. Only the tiny command module returned to earth.

It should be easy to find a diagram of the Apollo/Saturn V system on the internet, along with all the data to support what I have told you. May I suggest at very least a small modicum of research before you insist that my response is not "scientific evidence"?

Last Edited by Tholidor on 02/23/2012 08:45 PM

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Yeah we own the moon. Claimed the white land in 1969

It is game over to nasa/the world space programme.....Do you not see it?