Women: It is imperative that you subdue your ego

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How do I know I have an ego?

Could I survive without one?

The fact that I post in this thread, proves that I have an ego?

I am not egoïstic or egocentric. But I am an individual.

Individual = ego

So OP, you want me to be less me?

Based on my experiences and soul searching, daily meditations, etc.

The ego isn't our really identity, but simply a temporary identity used for this life. It is merely an identification with the body. The body will die, therefore the ego will die with it. The ego's existance is based off of the mind, which is a just one very well designed illusion.

It's not about losing your ego but becoming simply seeing it as it is, a tool, a vehicle.

It's when people take their ego too seriously; then they identify with it. What's the point in identifying with something temporary that'll just wither away and decay with time? That is what people mean by "ego"

The ego is a useful tool, you learn alot from it, and like mentioned before, tantra teaches to embrace both yin and yang. It's not about being ruled and identified with the ego, but simply using it as a tool, and being unnattached from it.

Ofcourse we and all and our ego is temporary. But that is not an answer to my questions...

Thank you though...

I was just thinking this exact thought yesterday. :)

Whatever you say master....baaaa....can I have some money now?

womens should take firearms from man and take back them from fuckin military

If you perceive distinction such that your consciousness relates what is registered by your mind as it's self, then yes, until such perspective is changed, there will always be an ego present. The raw conscious state, should be our aim.

Can we safely co-exist with society without an ego? I think not. The ego serves as a protective mechanism, much like a firewall is to the internet. Society, like the internet, cannot be fully nor safely digested without some type of filtration in the form of ego. Elsewise, if you were to participate in society freely, you risk exploitation, much like how we exploit the joy of children for our own amusement. In a sense, the very nature of society not only creates, but sustains our lesser sense of self.

I like this. Thank you.

Yes, on the point you made about our supposed 'leaders'. When you learn to wield the powers of the occult and of metaphysics, you naturally lose interest in such affairs. The power to create and destroy universes is at your fingertips, so do not serve a lesser power.

Not necessarily, which is why I targeted women exclusively with this topic. This case of the female, is a unique subject that required it's own topic.






The key to your heart, is this, but do you know why:



By hiding or subduing our ego, we attain a child-like state of mind, which like a Trojan horse bypasses your outer defenses leaving your heart exposed to attack. This is why, knowing what I do about the female process, I still chose to fall in love, rather than to exploit you mercilessly.

Messed up the post while trying to edit, see post below.

Last Edited by Pharista on 03/10/2012 12:54 PM

OP can you give some meaning to the symbolism of the picture you posted above of Krishna holding a little Krishna (I presume?)

Here is a post I made recently on the Spiritual Preparedness thread regarding the symbolism of the deity Vishnu and what he/she and the objects held by the four armed diety represent:-

According to a yogic path I learned and practice, there are four spiritual subjects we need to study, practice and learn to keep in balance:-

Knowledge: of our true identity and of the identity of Source/Creator. Becoming a spinner of the discus of self-realisation, aware of past, present and future but staying rooted to the Now.

Yoga: Meaning union - knowledge alone is dry and so direct experience is needed, time spent in spiritual yoga (meditation) connecting to self as soul and source is needed to make it 'real'

Dharna: Meaning practice of divine virtues - operating through our original qualities of peace, love, humility, tolerance, compassion etc. Every day we will be faced with challenges to overcome and situations will arise to bring up our own shadows and false beliefs. This is our battleground - destroying all that is false and returning to truth.

Service: Sharing spiritual truths with others in thoughts, words and actions, with our mind, body and wealth. Taking responsibility for healing the self and sending good energy to others and the universe.

The deity Vishnu is symbolic of a perfect balance of male and female attributes held by each and every eternal human soul. The objects held symbolise the study of the four subjects: In one hand he/she is spinning the discus of self realisation in another holding a mace of self sovreignty - knowledge and yoga.

In another hand Vishnu holds a lotus flower, representing the beauty of divine qualities forged and rising from the murky muddy depths where the roots are. The other hand holds a conch shell which represents sharing spiritual truths with others. Returning to our authentic selves and through example of 'becoming' spiritual service is then given automatically. These two arms and the objects held in them represent inculcation of divine virtues (Dharna) and service.

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Last Edited by Pharista on 03/10/2012 01:06 PM

When I said "goddess" I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek. Plus it was a reference to "goddess energy". Lighten up, dude. ;)

Why doesn't everybody just leave women alone and let them be whoever the hell they want to be? Nothing any of you say or think will make the least bit of difference in the conduct of anyone at all, regardless of sex. This is getting ridiculous. Even the politicians running for office these days can't seem to get their heads out from under women's skirts when one would think there are far more pressing concerns for our nation.

The reason is because women now are far removed from what they once were. Our ego's play a major part at this time. We are losing the feminine aspects of ourselves. I have taken Toadmaster's advice and have put it to use in my life. Now I can't say I dropped the ego 100% but I am working on it. When the ego is dropped you are more like a child at heart. That is the key. Love is the key... We are beaten down...put down...we are under men and it has made us cold. We need to change that part of ourselves :) It's not easy but to me worth it...

That picture is of Kali, and of Shiva who transformed himself into a child to stop her rampage on the battlefield.

I personally do not prescribe to Vishnu nor Brahma, as I've taken the Shakti/Shiva path, personified by the 10 Wisdom Goddesses. It's a complete system, focusing on the ten incarnations of Shakti, they being more primal than the younger Indian gods, with the strongest energy I've ever felt.

I find Vishnu/Krishna nudging a bit close to the 'Christ' archetype to satisfy my spiritual needs, he does not directly correspond to your kundalini and consciousness as does the Shiva/Shakti system, the latter more powerful and visceral, and is best for purposes of personal transformation. In Shaktism, you deal with kundalini (Bhairavi, Chinnamasta) and life energy (Kali) directly with mere mantra. There are no messiahs, so there is no waiting, nor are there any patriarchs, Shiva serving as the transcendent and unperturbed consciousness to the power and life energy of Shakti, which is why you usually see Kali or Tara dancing on top of his inert form.

My suggestion, is that you give them a go.

oooh I just noticed we posted at the same time Toadmaster...awesome Hope your having a good day honey :)

We did it again! wow... and don't cry I just want you happy :)

You're a very creepy lady, Ms. Aries.

Hey...creepy? :( man...that's not good lmao...

Ahh yes Kali - she looks so serene with Shiva transformed to a child :) my memory of the images of Kali are a lot more scary, I have never come across this depiction before but it makes perfect sense. The scary side of Kali has been necessary to bring things to this point of return though don't you think?

I believe there is much to learn about the symbolism of all the deities and characters from the Hindu scriptures. I know what you mean about the Christian parallels re Vishnu, Brahma and Krishna but their true representation is still very important imo.

Shiv Shakti is of course the ultimate state of being - powerful female energy connected to the purity of Source. Just like the picture. Thanks for sharing that

That intuition of yours, that allows you to tap into the unmanifest in such a manner... is very creepy to my more logical faculty, yet still you comfort the other half of my mind. Strange duality going on here.

Oh I got tricks honey just joking no I understand what you are saying. See I guess it's not as big a deal for me stuff like that happens to me on a daily basis. I just go with it. I'm glad I didn't scare ya away...I really like our chats honey lol

Kali will treat any who surrender their ego willingly in a similar manner to that of child Shiva. No need to fear a mother's love.

What a lot of 'new age' hooey! The very last thing any nation needs today is a weaker population than it already has. Want to be a 'real' woman or man? Find something useful to do instead of all this profitless mental masturbation.

What is wisdom to me might not be to you. I don't see any new age in any of my post...but hey to each their own. You will see...this is something that needs to be done in order to get back what we have lost over all of these years...

To all you morans who can't speak or read basic Greek, ego only means 'I.' Here's a letter from Ayn Rand to a reader who asked her about the 'I' in 'I love you' explaining why the sentiment means nothing without it:
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Maybe you all should be spending some time learning more languages instead of bothering yourselves over what other people are doing. How do you expect to compete with other people who know 5 or 6 of them for jobs and promotions? I know 8, so I'm smarter than all of you.

If ever I heard of someone needing to work on their ego it is you honey...good luck to you smart one