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Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/27/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Here, the other topic I posted about earlier somebody also had posted and is now pinned. Makes Pennsylvania look GREAT alright... Thread: Pa. Court: Judge Uses SHARIAH Law to Free Muslim Assailant of assault charges Last Edited by Laura Bow on 02/27/2012 10:17 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1300330 United States 02/27/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! How would you like to be down-stream of a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11384947 chicken/hog/cow farmer that didn't manage manure properly and just let it runoff into the stream for you and your family or livestock to live with? How do you "manage" manure in a field properly? Is the farmer supposed to go around and pick it up? Then what? hahaha! Good one. |
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Kalivar User ID: 1465084 United States 02/27/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... B.S. Chicken manure does not take 2 years to compost. Where the hell did you pull that number from? It is quite obvious you know absolutely nothing about composting spreading bogus information like this. You cite seeds passing through the digestive system as a deterrent for using the manure it in the garden. If you were giving accurate information you would know that letting your compost cook to 130-150 degrees kills most seeds. [link to seattletilth.org] |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/27/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Wrong again as usual $nakie. I think that you are well aware that this is merely the camels nose poking into the tent stage. And what happens afterwards. TWEENIE! How's it hangin', braugh? As usual, I'll let you know when I am 'wrong' about something... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 02/27/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! How would you like to be down-stream of a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11384947 chicken/hog/cow farmer that didn't manage manure properly and just let it runoff into the stream for you and your family or livestock to live with? How do you "manage" manure in a field properly? Is the farmer supposed to go around and pick it up? Then what? Yes, with a super duper pooper scooper...then burn it in a boiler for clean power... Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/27/2012 10:47 AM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Dease User ID: 1505901 United States 02/27/2012 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! HOLY COW SHIT!!! What are they trying to do here ? Close down every farmer?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10728385 They're trying to close down anyone who could live off their own land. They want people to be helpless, and dependent on the NWO. "Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39 "What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23 |
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SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/27/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... B.S. Chicken manure does not take 2 years to compost. Where the hell did you pull that number from? It is quite obvious you know absolutely nothing about composting spreading bogus information like this. You cite seeds passing through the digestive system as a deterrent for using the manure it in the garden. If you were giving accurate information you would know that letting your compost cook to 130-150 degrees kills most seeds. [link to seattletilth.org] Rigghhhttt...Good luck getting a ton of horse shit to 'cook' every month, and that is just one horse (Manure and bedding)... As for chicken, I am not talking a few laying hens, Mr. Wizard... I love your 'reference' for chicken shit...Composting with a 'bin', or 'turning a pile' with a shovel... Get back to me when you know what the fuck you are talking about... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 02/27/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... Guy down the road has chicken houses, he washes them out and collects it in a pond and then sprays it on his crops...you can literally watch the corn and tobacco grow... Last Edited by BRIEF on 02/27/2012 10:44 AM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/27/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... Guy down the road has chicken houses, he washes them out and collects it in a pond and then sprays it on his crops...you can literally watch the corn and tobacco grow... That is slurry,. and it is diluted and the amonia 'cooks off' in the open pits... They do the same with cow shit for dairy cattle...Gets spread on corn fields and hay in between cuttings...No one uses chemical fertilizers around here... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Captain Spaulding User ID: 10648098 United States 02/27/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Exactly. I'd gladly send them pictures of my dog's crap and close ups of all the bird shit. I'd even do them more a favor and send them samples. Do they want a description of my cat litter box? I'll fed-x 'em some samples of that too. Maybe that's what everyone in Pennsylvania should do. |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/27/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! I was trying to find something specific to Agenda 21 regarding manure, I found this interesting and probably the closest thing so far... Appropriate use of manure The regulation regarding the principles of good practice in the use of manure (regulation regarding the use of manure of 26 January 1996) is based on the law on manure already enacted in Germany in 1977. It relates to the use of manure on agricultural and garden areas. Even if private gardens and thus also allotment gardens are excluded from the application field of this law, the principle stated therein should be complied with also in the field of allotment gardens. This seems even more important as the XXXI International Congress of allotment gardeners in Brussels (1998) specifically dealt with the questions of mineral manure. On the basis of a general very high use of manure and nutritive substances for plants in allotment gardens, mineral manure was classified among environmental poisons if used inappropriately. What is the point here? The principles for the use of manure include the temporary and quantitative limited use of manure so as to optimise the use of nutritive substances by the plants and thus avoid spilling of such substances into water. Nitrate containing manure should be used so as to make the amount nitrate contained therein correspond to the effective need of the plants. This however requires to know the actual need in nutritive substances of every single plant, to observe the growth cycles of species and to know which substances are already present in the soil, in particular nitrate. This again requires a soil analysis to be carried out. Nitrate containing manure may only be used if the soil can absorb it. If the soil is drenched, frozen or covered with snow, this type of manure may not be used. Nitrate levels of manure such as compost, animal manure, and green manure harvest residual should also be included in the overall balance. [link to www.jardins-familiaux.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9291538 United States 02/27/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! it's time for The American People to stand up and put a stop to this People ! If We don't than it's going to be too late ! That's it ! The World is watching and Wondering why ? And also The World will follow in Police State freedom loss if this keeps up ! Someone should dump a dumptruck full right on the State OF Pennsylvania's Capitol steps ! |
Pa resident1 User ID: 10641508 United States 02/27/2012 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... B.S. Chicken manure does not take 2 years to compost. Where the hell did you pull that number from? It is quite obvious you know absolutely nothing about composting spreading bogus information like this. You cite seeds passing through the digestive system as a deterrent for using the manure it in the garden. If you were giving accurate information you would know that letting your compost cook to 130-150 degrees kills most seeds. [link to seattletilth.org] Thanks Kavilar, exactly!! I have seen people's compost piles literally combust, as in smoke and fire. LOL one year the neighbor's compost pile was burning (they have theirs in a concrete bin). "When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends" |
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nzreva User ID: 1063963 United States 02/27/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! HOLY COW SHIT!!! What are they trying to do here ? Close down every farmer?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10728385 You have a muslim judge who freed a muslim .... .. a shocking case out of Pennsylvania, a judge has thrown out an assault charge against a Muslim immigrant based on Sharia law. The assault victim was the head of the Pennsylvania chapter of American Atheists, Ernest Perce V, who was marching in a Halloween parade as “Zombie Mohammed” next to a fellow atheist dressed as “Zombie Pope.” The former depiction didn’t sit well with Muslim onlooker Talag Elbayomy, who then attacked Mr. Perce. And with an admission of guilt by the assailant and video of the incident, it should have been an open-and-shut case. Ya'll have some serious problems.... glad I live in Texas. |
Pa resident1 User ID: 10641508 United States 02/27/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Exactly. I'd gladly send them pictures of my dog's crap and close ups of all the bird shit. I'd even do them more a favor and send them samples. Do they want a description of my cat litter box? I'll fed-x 'em some samples of that too. Maybe that's what everyone in Pennsylvania should do. "When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11542663 United Kingdom 02/27/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! time to patent a horse shit collector with a built in weighing scale then farmers can measure and weigh the amount of horse shit produced by each horse/pig/cow or turkey, and log it onto their excell spreadsheets daily, so that when the inspector knocks on the door, they have full records will be a bit harder on the worm farms as each gram of worm shit (vermicompost) will have to be divided by the estimated amount of worms in the worm farm fucking pathetic, and I wonder how long it will be before we have the same/similar laws in the UK |
Kalivar User ID: 1465084 United States 02/27/2012 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Manure (especially horse and chicken) makes IMO the best damn garden fertilizer on the planet. Quoting: Pa resident1 Chicken is fine, but takes two years at the least to compost, or don't plan on growing anything where you spread it for at least that long due to the 'amonia' level...It will kill plants quickly... Horse is some of the worst manure for gardens as it is full of undigested hay (read grass) seed...Horse needs to rot for years to effectively be used on gardens...If spread on hay fields, it is fine... B.S. Chicken manure does not take 2 years to compost. Where the hell did you pull that number from? It is quite obvious you know absolutely nothing about composting spreading bogus information like this. You cite seeds passing through the digestive system as a deterrent for using the manure it in the garden. If you were giving accurate information you would know that letting your compost cook to 130-150 degrees kills most seeds. [link to seattletilth.org] Rigghhhttt...Good luck getting a ton of horse shit to 'cook' every month, and that is just one horse (Manure and bedding)... As for chicken, I am not talking a few laying hens, Mr. Wizard... I love your 'reference' for chicken shit...Composting with a 'bin', or 'turning a pile' with a shovel... Get back to me when you know what the fuck you are talking about... Oh that's not what your talking about? Oh that's right, you did not signify exactly how many animals you were talking about. Maybe you should be more clear in your declarations jackass. If you had half of a brain, you would know that many farmers sell their collected "shits" to composting operations, who very easily "cook" it. Composting is a snap for those who wish to do it well, and composting chicken manure is no problem at all for the home gardener. You spouted bullshit, plain and simple. You may want to step down a few rungs, wouldn't want you getting a nose bleed from way up there. |
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wing-ed User ID: 1474169 United States 02/27/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! The government needs to keep their noses out of our manure !! Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good ! |
Laura Bow (OP) User ID: 1158661 United States 02/27/2012 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! time to patent a horse shit collector with a built in weighing scale Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11542663 then farmers can measure and weigh the amount of horse shit produced by each horse/pig/cow or turkey, and log it onto their excell spreadsheets daily, so that when the inspector knocks on the door, they have full records will be a bit harder on the worm farms as each gram of worm shit (vermicompost) will have to be divided by the estimated amount of worms in the worm farm fucking pathetic, and I wonder how long it will be before we have the same/similar laws in the UK If they aren't already in place, they probably have something in the works. I'm amazed they tried this here in PA versus a different state, oh well. PA is going down the tubes anyway. |
Girl Genius User ID: 1133676 United States 02/27/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! I have a three-step manure management plan: Step one: Relocate cow pies to strategic locations and cover lightly with hay to discourage uninvited "visitors". Step two: Collect horse apples to lob at those approaching the front door. Step three: Recycle kitty litter as a fuel additive for unauthorized vehicles stopping on the property. For obvious reasons, I will refrain from submitting a copy of my plan. For nothing is secret that will not be revealed… |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 1253268 United States 02/27/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! Oh that's not what your talking about? Oh that's right, you did not signify exactly how many animals you were talking about. Maybe you should be more clear in your declarations jackass. If you had half of a brain, you would know that many farmers sell their collected "shits" to composting operations, who very easily "cook" it. Composting is a snap for those who wish to do it well, and composting chicken manure is no problem at all for the home gardener. You spouted bullshit, plain and simple. You may want to step down a few rungs, wouldn't want you getting a nose bleed from way up there. Quoting: Kalivar It's pretty evident you are clueless... You linked to a source that explains how to compost the shit from a few chickens, and you got your ass called on it... Now you are attempting to further spin your way out of it... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Chicken Tractor User ID: 5643357 United States 02/27/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: POLICE STATE! Pennsylvania REQUIRING anyone who owns ANY type of livestock OR crops using manure to fill out management plan! How would you like to be down-stream of a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11384947 chicken/hog/cow farmer that didn't manage manure properly and just let it runoff into the stream for you and your family or livestock to live with? This ^ There is always someone downstream of you. Be responsible. For those that cannot be responsible we have minimum standard laws. So long as solutions are based on science and are reasonable they should be respected. Now go be productive. |