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Smoking ban on private property?
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It’s already against the law for smokers to light up near businesses, parks and playgrounds in California, but one town is now considering a total outdoor smoking ban — even on private property — all at one family’s request.

City officials in Rocklin, Calif. are weighing the Baker family‘s complaint about smoke drifting into their home from their neighbors’ backyards, the Placer Herald reported.


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Oh for fucks sake, that woman is ridiculous.
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Oh for fucks sake, that woman is ridiculous.
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Good luck with that. You would have to take down Procter and Gamble... and there is no way in hell thats happening.
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Christ on a bike, people are ridiculous these days. What's next, outlawing BBQs due to smoke?!
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Christ on a bike, people are ridiculous these days. What's next, outlawing BBQs due to smoke?!
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If she was my neighbor I'd park my smoker as close to her property line as I could. 365 days of brisket.
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Christ on a bike, people are ridiculous these days. What's next, outlawing BBQs due to smoke?!
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If she was my neighbor I'd park my smoker as close to her property line as I could. 365 days of brisket.
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Oh for fucks sake, that woman is ridiculous.
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Good luck with that. You would have to take down Procter and Gamble... and there is no way in hell thats happening.
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Have they ran out of things to do in Calif while the rest of us wait for tptb to start another death war with and against any country they choose?

I had really hoped the seriousness of the Hopey Changey thing we have been experiencing would have taken smokers off the radar as the leading cause of death for anyone downwind.

Just wait ... fat is next
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What about burning tires in your backyard?
Should that be ok with neighbors?
Depends on IF you are imposing on your neighbor.
Can you fire a gun across your neighbor's property?
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sounds about right for Cali.

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iD RECRUIT ALL THE SMOKERS IN THAT CALIFORNIA TOWN TO TAKE TURNS SHITTING ON HER WINDSHIELD EVERY NIGHT, JUST TO LEAVE HER A BIG FAT "FUUUUUCK YOU", FROM ALL OF HER KIND SMOKER NEIGHBORS, AND THEN ID DROP SOME SKUNK PISS IN HER RADIATOR...YA KNOW , FOR SHITS N GIGGLES.
JUST CUZ SHE BE ONE OF THOSE DUMBASS WOMEN THAT HAVE TO ACT SO STUPID YOU'D LIKE TO CHOKE HER TIL A LITTLE TURD POPS OUT...BUT YOU KNOW YOU CANT...CUZ THEY SAY IT AINT NICE OR LEGAL....BUT YOU KNOW ALL HER NEIGHBORS THINK SHES A BITCH....WONDER IF ANYONE HAS DUMPED A BOX OF CORNFLAKES IN HER YARD YET AND LET THE BLACKBIRDS INFEST????s226
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What about burning tires in your backyard?
Should that be ok with neighbors?
Depends on IF you are imposing on your neighbor.
Can you fire a gun across your neighbor's property?
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Having a legal smoke on your private property doesn't come even close to burning tires.
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This hate the smokers bullshit is starting to piss me off.. It's alright to blatantly discriminate against smokers but not any ethnic groups? This world is fucked and I really hope that it's time is almost up..
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Have they ran out of things to do in Calif while the rest of us wait for tptb to start another death war with and against any country they choose?

I had really hoped the seriousness of the Hopey Changey thing we have been experiencing would have taken smokers off the radar as the leading cause of death for anyone downwind.

Just wait ... fat is next
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There was a city in cali (forget which one) who outlawed setting off a nuclear explosive within city limits. So this isn't the craziest I've heard.
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Just wait when they turn the tables on the fat people of the world. You know that's next. Your too fat...so your banned from walking on the sidewalk, because it cracks the pavement!!!criscotard
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I am waiting for them to make smoking illegal. What about sitting inside your apartment or condo and having your smoke drift into other apartments or condos?

Yup its on its way! The gov will have a monopoly on cigarette smuggling like they do with the drug smuggling market.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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I am waiting for them to make smoking illegal. What about sitting inside your apartment or condo and having your smoke drift into other apartments or condos?

Yup its on its way! The gov will have a monopoly on cigarette smuggling like they do with the drug smuggling market.
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That's already illegal in some apartment/condo complexes in CA but it varies depending on the landlord.
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I am waiting for them to make smoking illegal. What about sitting inside your apartment or condo and having your smoke drift into other apartments or condos?

Yup its on its way! The gov will have a monopoly on cigarette smuggling like they do with the drug smuggling market.
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Belmont, Cali already banned apt smoking.

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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
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If she can smell it in her home she needs to have an inspector come tell her where the air leaks in her house are. If this is what the world is coming to I'd love to turn my neighbor in and ban parking sh!tty cars in the driveway. It's infringing on my rights to not see eyesores while on my own property getting the mail.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


Oh give me a break. If I can smell my neighbors BBQ is that infringing on my rights? Or what if I live in an apartment and I can smell the neighbor taking a shit? Cry me a fucking river.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

I'd like to go quietly in my sleep, like grandpa did. Not screaming in terror like the people in the back seat of the car he was driving.
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I wonder if there will be a fart law????
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Another California grade A cunt! Do those bitches grow on trees? Is there something in the water? WTF?
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Have they ran out of things to do in Calif while the rest of us wait for tptb to start another death war with and against any country they choose?

I had really hoped the seriousness of the Hopey Changey thing we have been experiencing would have taken smokers off the radar as the leading cause of death for anyone downwind.

Just wait ... fat is next
 Quoting: Ohwow!



Indeed. If that goes then they very well could not exclude gays, they would be next.

I'm a former smoker myself, but I never bought the second hand smoke is bad for you crap. I knew the day they imposed separate smoking sections in restaurants that the agenda would not stop there. At the time, smokers didn't have a problem with it because they understood that not everyone enjoyed the smell of smoke. Little did they know they just fell in a trap and would be hounded to the gates of hell. They have now moved to your vehicles, the open air spaces and even the home you pay rent for monthly. I'm not at all surprised to see them overtaking private property. If you want to see the insanity the governments or courts will impose, look to the fruitcakes in California. They seem to start everything.

People need to look far down the road before favoring a certain action or law because it just seems right or justified because the old saying, "give an inch and they take a mile" will apply every time.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
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Oh give me a break. If I can smell my neighbors BBQ is that infringing on my rights? Or what if I live in an apartment and I can smell the neighbor taking a shit? Cry me a fucking river.
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Well, technically, yes. All are infringing on your rights.

Now I didn't say this wasn't ridiculous. I just stated a fact.

Here's a little story. A good friend of mine lived in a condo with a smoke stack for a neighbor. The smell actually came up from her condo (bottom floor) into his condo (second floor) and stunk his place up big time. To the point he had to have it professionally cleaned to rid it of the odor and make the property ready for sale.

Now smart guy, he had to pay someone out of his pocket to rid his home of someone else's foul odors. He didn't take the smoke stack lady to court over it but in my opinion he should have.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
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Oh give me a break. If I can smell my neighbors BBQ is that infringing on my rights? Or what if I live in an apartment and I can smell the neighbor taking a shit? Cry me a fucking river.
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Well, technically, yes. All are infringing on your rights.

Now I didn't say this wasn't ridiculous. I just stated a fact.

Here's a little story. A good friend of mine lived in a condo with a smoke stack for a neighbor. The smell actually came up from her condo (bottom floor) into his condo (second floor) and stunk his place up big time. To the point he had to have it professionally cleaned to rid it of the odor and make the property ready for sale.

Now smart guy, he had to pay someone out of his pocket to rid his home of someone else's foul odors. He didn't take the smoke stack lady to court over it but in my opinion he should have.
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Fuck it, let's outlaw curry while we're at it. That smell lingers in rentals as well.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


Oh give me a break. If I can smell my neighbors BBQ is that infringing on my rights? Or what if I live in an apartment and I can smell the neighbor taking a shit? Cry me a fucking river.
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I hope that lady wears perfume. I'd countersue with that just because I can, or that obnoxious odors are wafting over from her house, just because I can. It can get very ridiculous if the courts don't nip this crap in the bud. No one knows how to be a good neighbor or tolerant anymore. That guy is likely outside smoking so that he doesn't smoke in front of the kids or wife and now he is being persecuted by his nasty neighbor for doing the right thing!
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


Oh give me a break. If I can smell my neighbors BBQ is that infringing on my rights? Or what if I live in an apartment and I can smell the neighbor taking a shit? Cry me a fucking river.
 Quoting: Marax


Well, technically, yes. All are infringing on your rights.

Now I didn't say this wasn't ridiculous. I just stated a fact.

Here's a little story. A good friend of mine lived in a condo with a smoke stack for a neighbor. The smell actually came up from her condo (bottom floor) into his condo (second floor) and stunk his place up big time. To the point he had to have it professionally cleaned to rid it of the odor and make the property ready for sale.

Now smart guy, he had to pay someone out of his pocket to rid his home of someone else's foul odors. He didn't take the smoke stack lady to court over it but in my opinion he should have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


Fuck it, let's outlaw curry while we're at it. That smell lingers in rentals as well.
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I'd say the landlord could probably claim damages if someone stunk up a unit. They don't normally do that but the probably could if they could prove their case.

The way I see it, if I'm out in public and I smell your cigarette, there's nothing I can do about that. If I smell it in my home, we've got problems.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
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It's people like you that need to live far, far away from others. You are what is commonly known as a troublemaker.
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


It's people like you that need to live far, far away from others. You are what is commonly known as a troublemaker.
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A trouble maker? lol

I just don't want someone stinking up my house.

How about if I move in next door to you and start a manure factory? Would you mind smelling shit all day?
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If in fact the neighbors smoke is reaching the woman's property, and if in fact she can smell it in or around her home, then the neighbors are in fact infringing on her rights not to smell their smoke on her property.

I'd say she has a valid case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11258870


It's people like you that need to live far, far away from others. You are what is commonly known as a troublemaker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11325182


A trouble maker? lol

I just don't want someone stinking up my house.

How about if I move in next door to you and start a manure factory? Would you mind smelling shit all day?
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I believe there are zoning laws for that. And I currantly do live next to a manure farm, so there. I have neighbors that fertilize the fields with poop twice a year and I don't complain about them. It makes for a pretty ripe two weeks out of the year. I don't complain about it. They were here first, not me. The problem these days is no one is willing to suffer a little to keep the peace. By your logic, the smoker could sue the lady for denying his right to have a smoke in the privacy of his own home or property. It works both ways. So as long as its not 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, grin and bear it and realize it really isn't the end of the world.





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