Robert Kennedy's son charged after protecting newborn from vaccinations at hospital

Yes, Nurse Ratchett.

Me too but don't know why a person would want to take their newborn out for some fresh air if you're being discharged from the hospital soon.

It's very strict. They give the mother a bracelet to wear as well as the newborn...I can't remember if the father got one but everytime they would bring my baby in to be fed, etc. they would check the bracelet on me and her as well. There is no walking around outside of your hospital room with the baby. Too many chances for a mistake to happen.

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Yes the father gets a bracelet as well which is tagged with an ID number with the newborn so they can see that you're the parent. People don't realize that hospitals take this shyt serious. It isn't just a waiting room. Serious shit can happen to a newborn in the wrong hands. Not funny stuff.

The sheep who believe hospital staff can do whatever evil they want to a newborn and its parents have come out to play in this thread.

Maybe you haven't read that "severe misconduct" is now the norm in most hospitals. I've seen it all first hand. Medical mistakes are the #1 killer in the country. So back off with the "lying" stuff.

When my kids were born a few short years ago i guarded them from the nurses. I sat in that window and watched them until the baby was brought back in our room. At one point two nurses ganged up on me about the vaccines. I used their names and made it clear to them that if they stuck a needle in my baby they'd personally encounter me on the street. Had no problem after that. We pushed for early release and got the fuck out the next day.

Afterwards i received letters from the county threatening me about vaccines. I called the person up about the letters and said if they sent me anymore garbage like that i would mount a highly publicized lawsuit against the state that would cost them millions. The letters stopped. Sometimes you just gotta be a gang star.

This kennedy thing looks very real. But i'm not convinced it isn't yet another damn ploy to scare people. This is one sick world we live in. Never leave the home without the chrome.

the thing is, when you go into the hospital, you sign papers saying they are responsible for you when you are there. That is why you can't walk out of hospital after being a patient, you go out in a wheelchair. You are THEIR responsibility until you hit that curb. If he had tripped outside (dropped the baby?) or done anything like that, the hospital could be sued. I agree with the other posters, they should have had the midwife at home.

Why does everyone think it was strange that he wanted to take his baby for a walk? They have been in the hospital for 3 days. The Mother is the reason they are there that long because she was recovering.
Now he decides he wants to for for a walk and take his new born with him.
Here is where I'm trying to understand if what he did was illegal.
I have been through the whole hospital process with my kids and I know they have strict rules. Understandably, they don't want whats happened in the past to happen again where someone actually kidnaps a newborn out of the hospital or a baby gets switched. These are hospital rules and SOPs. This is not law as far as I know. So if he wanted to walk out of there with his own child then so be it! If he doesn't want to follow the rules don't let him back in.
He obviously handled the situation in the worst way. From the video it looked like he had no interest in resolving any confusion he was creating by walking out the door with a baby. I get that maybe the nurses thought "what if that's not his baby hes walking out with?" Still, what was the illegal act? Did the nurses have legal grounds to lay hands on him and the boy? If they didn't, then he had all the right in the world to defend himself.

it's just a piece of paper

He is absolutely right, I mentioned the Constitutional right to a trial be a jury of my peers and a judge told me point blank the Constitution is not in force in his courtroom, he can rule however he pleases, and not to mention it again or I would be held in contempt of court. If you go into a courtroom and there is a yellow fringe around the flag , the Constitution is not in force. Once the civil war was lost by the succeeding states, the Constituent was defeated by the federalists.

As I remember the maternity area is secured. One reason is to prevent kidnappings. So no, by saying you're whoever, you do not get the right to override their security. That would nullify the security.

As I remember, you can't take the baby out until approved to leave the hospital, and you must bring a child seat and carry the baby out in that, to your car. Maybe a stroller would do as well. But they have rules like that, and they look like they'll enforce them.

No, they brought in a bunch of paperwork while I was in labor, nothing about shots. No one came up to me and explained my hours old child would be getting a shot and they needed me to sign / give consent. Its possible something about the vaccination was on 1 of the 8 paper I had to sign, perfect time to slip it in when a woman is in the discomfort of labor. Just because you personally would have done the right thing, dont count on all hospitals/nurses to be the same way.

One policy in all of these places is that they maintain 100% accoutability at all times of the babies. That means they know you have the baby or they know they do. There should not have been a "is that his baby" thought. They would have known that was his son. Like someone said before though, they want you to check out and double check before you go. Thats why they freaked out, because he didnt follow the rules.

Yep, in my situation they brought the paperwork in while I was in active labor. I had to sign at least 8 pages, and she said nothing about vaccinating the unborn baby, next time I know, no matter what read every inch of paper because it was probly in there somewhere. We put to much trust in workers expecting them to look out for us, when we only need to look out for ourselves. I was reading yesterday on another forum a womans baby died due to a negative reaction to the hep vaccine while in the hospital, its crazy.

So what vaccines do they do as a newly delivered baby? I think Hep B which I think is wrong. They should test the mother beforehand and if the baby is at risk, go ahead but otherwise, no. And a vitamin K shot maybe to clot the blood?? Maybe it's different now. Just askin

he's not a moran he's a kennedy both irish names granted but very different.

Your avatar is all wrong. You definitely need a sheep instead.

The hospital doesn't own the baby. Figure out the rest.

get off your high horse. vaccinations are BAD end of story if you work for those giving them out or are yourself and defend them thats your karma and bad it will be.

Is that what happened to you? Or were you dropped on your head at birth?

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Prisoners detainees incompetents deviants perverts kidnappers - American males sure have fallen on hard times.

How did they know why he was taking the baby, he could have had a fight with hs wife and was taking the baby for all they knew. The news said nothing about vaccinations, only he thought he didnt have to go by the Hospitals rules. Why would he want to take a new born out in freezing cold weather? thats crazy

until it is dismissed they are lible for all the babies, including his.

babies can get their vitamin k administered by oral drops instead of a shot. you just have to request it, it helps if you add it as part of the "birth plan" so they know for sure.

.... you would probably also vote for the Obuma health care plan making you a prisoner in own country.

Vaccines or not ... what's wrong in that hospital when a father cannot take his child out for fresh air whenever he wants ?