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AP: Israel Will Not Warn US of Iranian Strike

 
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Could they at least warn me? I'll keep my mouth shut.

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Primitive minds with high tech weapons. Why ponder what the outcome will be? Doesn't matter who strikes first, no one will be left to argue the point.
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Grand Theft Planet continues apace.
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Good maybe Russia an China can remove that cancer from the middle east and world before the USA can even threaten them.
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The "cancer" being IRAN!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094543


No Israel is the cancer and they want the whole Middle east essentially it time to say no the Khazars who are there completely illegally and who were never the peoples of 2000 years ago.
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ISRAEL IS THE PROBLEM
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ssshhh. it's hardly going to be a surprise anymore, is it!
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Reminder: America doesn't have an islam problem, America has an israel problem.
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Are you serious? only looking to the US President, tells us we have a Islam problem...
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Watch for commercial and cargo airliners being converted for bombers and in air refueling.

This will be a sign if they are going in without American help because Israel doesn't publicly have heavy bombers and long endurance air refuelers.
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WASHINGTON — Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

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Yes its true. The Mossad has all the US nuclear launch codes and they control our launch computers.

They would have given the US government the political choice whether to back them except they now see Obuma as more enemy than friend and want him out of the loop entirely.
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02/28/2012 04:40 AM
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To me it makes a lot more sense to NOT tell the US it's going to happen. Our government has more leaks than the titanic.

If you want to have a surprise attack, the last thing you want to do is tell politicians.
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WASHINGTON — Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

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Yes its true. The Mossad has all the US nuclear launch codes and they control our launch computers.

They would have given the US government the political choice whether to back them except they now see Obuma as more enemy than friend and want him out of the loop entirely.
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How did you come to know this?
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02/28/2012 05:05 AM
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Fine.
And the US will stop sending you oversea money and military hammy downs. Not that wee need those ancient weapons anyway.


If we said that, Israel would stop talking and "retract" their statement.
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02/28/2012 05:10 AM
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Good ! We shouldn't warn them we won't answer the phone when the come calling for help!
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Israel won't need our help!
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because they'll all be dead
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02/28/2012 05:23 AM
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WW3?
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02/28/2012 05:33 AM
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So much for the "Israel is our ally" myth.
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So much for the "Israel is our ally" myth.
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I don't know why ANYONE would ever believe that. They have done NOTHING for us. Ever.
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02/28/2012 05:49 AM
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So if no warning is going to be given, does that mean the US has to move through each day expecting a strike?
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No, it means that to protect its interests in the region and prevent a large-scale war the Pentagon will have to put its allies in the region on alert to intercept the Israeli planes en-route to Iran.

If Israel wants to play hard-ball, the US will play it too. They will never let Israel destroy what it's taken America and NATO 60 years to build in that region.

We're talking about global oil security, the geopolitical status-quo and the survival of Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

Believe it or not, there are priorities bigger than Israel for America in that part of the world. Israel appears to be ignoring this at their own peril.
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02/28/2012 06:00 AM
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Erm call me stupid but didnt the AP by releasing this info actualy inform the US.
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So if no warning is going to be given, does that mean the US has to move through each day expecting a strike?
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No, it means that to protect its interests in the region and prevent a large-scale war the Pentagon will have to put its allies in the region on alert to intercept the Israeli planes en-route to Iran.

If Israel wants to play hard-ball, the US will play it too. They will never let Israel destroy what it's taken America and NATO 60 years to build in that region.

We're talking about global oil security, the geopolitical status-quo and the survival of Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

Believe it or not, there are priorities bigger than Israel for America in that part of the world. Israel appears to be ignoring this at their own peril.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10800532


You are stupid if you think that. America would love Israel to strike, it would give them the excuss to go in and finish the job, it would give them real Plausible Deniability to the fact, that way America isnt the bad guy. Wake up from your delusions.
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Primitive minds with high tech weapons. Why ponder what the outcome will be? Doesn't matter who strikes first, no one will be left to argue the point.
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Are you talking about the U.S.
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Watch for commercial and cargo airliners being converted for bombers and in air refueling.

This will be a sign if they are going in without American help because Israel doesn't publicly have heavy bombers and long endurance air refuelers.
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Uhhh... that's like saying to watch for taxis and buses being converted for tanks and APCs.
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Ummm.... except we know that Israel has already destroyed most of Iran's nuclear capability. So this is just more bullshit.
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Timing of this release of info is interesting isn't it?
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ohyeah
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Good maybe Russia an China can remove that cancer from the middle east and world before the USA can even threaten them.
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The "cancer" being IRAN!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1094543


Did your Jutube tell you that ? derrrpp derrpp!

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Wow the first page of this thread is full of tools and shills.

Support Israel? Iran the 'cancer' of the world?

WTF is wrong with you?
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WASHINGTON — Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: - 588355


So, Israel intends to strike Iran despite there isn't proven Iranian nuclear bombs, and there is Israeli bombs instead. No mandate from UN whatsoever. No first strike of Iran so Israel to act in self defense. Israel presumes God-given right to eliminate everyone who struggles to obtain nuclear tech, as Syria and Iraq.

Let say for a moment Israel has its logic and justification for doing that.

By not informing even its closest ally, let alone to ask for some kind of permission or support from USA, EU, Russia, the Quartet, Israel isolates itself. USA is not involved in Israeli-Iranian exchange of strikes. And if tomorrow Iran strikes back, and that strike is much bigger than expected, Israel has no right to call the world for help. Do the leaders in Tel Aviv understand that?

I do not support Iran in its clandestine quest for nuclear tech with double applications. But I do not support either the move to make the world hostage of regional long-term conflicts that have their beginning in the Bible time. Because such a strike will go fast towards WW3. Iran is not Iraq. Putin just warned again against strike on Iran.
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Wow the first page of this thread is full of tools and shills.

Support Israel? Iran the 'cancer' of the world?

WTF is wrong with you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11499408



Israel would be more than happy to mind her own business and just coexist with the rest of the middle east. Unfortunately the muslims idea of coexisting is killing every last Israeli.

I certainly do not support a US war with Iran, but Israel has every right in the world to defend herself against them.

The fact is that Iran has publicly stated - PUBLICLY ON THE WORLD STAGE - that they want to wipe Israel off the map. What kind of a moran do you have to be to fault Israel for acting against Iran as they move closer and closer to acquiring a bomb big enough to carry out their plans for genocide?

Imagine for a moment that Russia decided to park some nuclear missiles in... oh, say... Cuba(?) ... just after saying they want to wipe us off the map... what do you suppose the US response would be? What would the American people want, or more accurately demand of their elected officials?
I've got a feeling that the same liberals and Democrats here that would deny Israel the right to defend herself miiiight just change their tune if it was their own lives hanging in the balance of action or inaction. 'Cuz if there is one thing the left excels in, it's hypocrisy and a mentality of do as we say, not as we do.
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The anti-Israeli rhetoric of Iranian religious-political leaders is not enough to indulge unsanctioned first strike. Israel says Iran is preparing a nuclear bomb and once ready it would be too late. But Israel itself has may be 200 warheads if not more. To act on presumption that someone who has a nuclear bomb will use it immediately to strike Israel, is not the best politics in today's 7 billion world. If so, Pakistan has hundred(s) warheads, is a Muslim country going increasingly fundamental, and its missiles may be put Israel in range. If not, Pakistan can always support terrorists. Why not Israel strikes Pakistan then? This is the only Muslim country with demonstrated nuclear weapons. Obviously the logic of Israel doesn't work in that case.

I am afraid it wouldn't work with the case with iran either. Because one or more nuclear sites on the ground being destroyed in overnight run, WILL NOT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM. What if that makes even bigger resolve in Iran to produce the bomb on a fast track, now when they have the capabilities, and when they are already under attack? What if they revert to chemical and biological weapons? What if at one moment of consequent negative development, Israel is tempted to use first nuclear weapon against non-nuclear country, under the pretext its existence is endangered? even now Israel acts under that pretext, how much more after the real war starts). How would the world react?

Also, Israel doesn't border Iran and that is a big problem. Israel needs quite many efforts to reach Iran conventionally (with exception of the doomsday submarines and Samson option). What if Iran provides Hezbollah with chemical weapons, and they use them without much consideration of retaliation - retaliation to who? What will happen to the now flourishing Jewish state after a chemical or biological attack from terrorist organization? Will Israel ever be the same prosperous country again? And even if after that Israel destroys a dozen of Muslim cities (I don't know how to qualify that option), will that fix the disaster? It will only bring WW3. Seems someone wants exactly that.

Unfortunately, Iranian hawks are no less on the war track, and will use the opportunity open to them after a first Israeli strike. The ghost will be out of the bottle once and for all.
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Watch for commercial and cargo airliners being converted for bombers and in air refueling.

This will be a sign if they are going in without American help because Israel doesn't publicly have heavy bombers and long endurance air refuelers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6920405



Uhhh... that's like saying to watch for taxis and buses being converted for tanks and APCs.
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Hey, laugh as you will but being sneaky and not obvious is a tactic. Many campaigns during world war 2 were successful using eccentric methods. Hollywood helped with props to hide entire defense factories on the west coast with camouflage or deception. The method you describe is not far from reasonable and could apply in some tactical scenario but I think you intended to insult me.

The mossad creed: 'By way of deception, thou shalt make war.'







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