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A Special Investigation into the Dark World of Trolling - fab article!

 
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thank you so much OP.

now I completely understad what Im experiencing on the Internet since some years.

8 out of 10 people are sociopaths.

they are not able to think and act on their own.

thats why they always want to discredit the individual.

wow
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Yup!

I was attacked by a troll last night and i handed him a new A-Hole.

Hear is the link.

Thread: Who else thinks that Datona 500 crash was set up???

At first i was trying to be nice to him but he would not let up trying to derail my thread.

I still managed to get what i was looking for from a like minded GLPer and the shill even attacked him.
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There is a huge difference between trolling and cyberbullying. Cyberbullies, generally know their victim and the attacks are personal and malicious.

Trolling is completely different.
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Takes one to know one, doesn't it, BEN?

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Inappropriate Banana Smiley strikes again!

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I nominate Best Post of the Day!
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Dark humor? The kids alright.
 Quoting: gurunade


pictures of babies in meat grinders on memorial websites is a little beyond dark humor.

Makes me wonder if the Westboro Baptist Church members get off on harrassing and tormenting the family members of dead soldiers at their funerals in the same way Ben in the article enjoys that sort of thing.

There have always been twisted and perverted people, but at this point in time we seem to have a much higher percentage of sociopaths running loose.

People should read the entire article at the link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11299341


Definitely.
And that article was a good one on the whole psychology of trolling and why people do it. Essentially they vent their own insecurity onto others i.e. they were themselves hurt, so they want to hurt others to get even. No surprise there- it's just common sense.
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What's a Troll:

An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.

Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.

Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.

Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.

What Can be Done about Trolls?

When you suspect that somebody is a troll, you might try responding with a polite, mild message to see if it's just somebody in a bad mood. Internet users sometimes let their passions get away from them when seated safely behind their keyboard. If you ignore their bluster and respond in a pleasant manner, they usually calm down.

However, if the person persists in being beastly, and seems to enjoy being unpleasant, the only effective position is summed up as follows:

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.

When you try to reason with a troll, he wins. When you insult a troll, he wins. When you scream at a troll, he wins. The only thing that trolls can't handle is being ignored.

What NOT to Do

As already stated, it is futile to try to "cure" a troll of his obsession. But perhaps you simply cannot bear the hostile environment that the troll is creating and want to go away for a while.

If you do that, then for the sake of the others on the system, please do not post a dramatic "Goodbye!" message. This convinces the troll that he is winning the battle. There is, perhaps, no message you can write on a message system that is as damaging as an announcement that you are leaving because of the hostility that the troll has kindled.

If you feel you must say something, a discreet message to the system operator (and some of the others users, if you have their email addresses) is the best course of action. Incidentally, if you are writing the letter in an agitated state, it is a good idea to wait an hour and then give it one last review before you actually send it. That might spare you the pain of saying things that you don't really mean to people you like.

What about Free Speech?

When trolls find that their efforts are being successfully resisted, they often complain that their right to free speech is being infringed. Let us examine that claim.

While most people on the Internet are ardent defenders of free speech, it is not an absolute right; there are practical limitations. For example, you may not scream out "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, and you may not make jokes about bombs while waiting to board an airplane. We accept these limitations because we recognize that they serve a greater good.

Another useful example is the control of the radio frequency spectrum. You might wish to set up a powerful radio station to broadcast your ideas, but you cannot do so without applying for a license. Again, this is a practical limitation: if everybody broadcasted without restriction, the repercussions would be annoying at best and life-threatening at worst.

The radio example is helpful for another reason: with countless people having a legitimate need to use radio communications, it is important to ensure that nobody is 'monopolizing the channel'. There are only so many clear channels available in each frequency band and these must be shared.

When a troll attacks a message board, he generally posts a lot of messages. Even if his messages are not particularly inflammatory, they can be so numerous that they drown out the regular conversations (this is known as 'flooding'). Needless to say, no one person's opinions can be allowed to monopolize a channel.

The ultimate response to the 'free speech' argument is this: while we may have the right to say more or less whatever we want, we do not have the right to say it wherever we want. You may feel strongly about the fact that your neighbour has not mowed his lawn for two months, but you do not have the right to berate him in his own living room. Similarly, if a webmaster tells a troll that he is not welcome, the troll has no "right" to remain. This is particularly true on the numerous free communications services offered on the net. (On pay systems, the troll might be justified in asking for a refund.)

Why Do They Do It?

Affirmation.

Regular net users know how delightful it is when somebody responds to something they have written. It is a meeting of the minds, which is an intellectual thrill, but it is also an acknowledgement of one's value — and that can be a very satisfying emotional reward.

Trolls crave attention, and they care not whether it is positive or negative. They see the Internet as a mirror into which they can gaze in narcissistic rapture.

If you want a deeper analysis than that, perhaps a psychologist can shed some additional light on the matter.

Conclusion

Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody who you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, simply write a follow-up message entitled "Troll Alert" and type only this:

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.

By posting such a message, you let the troll know that you know what he is, and that you are not going to get dragged into his twisted little hobby.

The Internet is a splendidly haphazard collection of both serious and silly material. Because it is so free, there are bound to be problems. I think that we can best enjoy it if we deal with everything that happens online with a wry grin and a ready shrug
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For a minute there I thought you were talking about Trolling:

Trolling
[v.] To be under the influence of both LSD and Ecstasy; to be both "tripping" and "rolling."; candyflipping:


The type your talking about is pretty weak...but whatever floats your toast.
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you mad bro?


"hows it hangin?" i laughed so hard i pee'd a little!
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Zazz?
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Lol, I love how the supposed non trolls in the article were trolling.
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Interesting article. It clearly illustrates why ignoring a troll is the worst thing you can do to them.
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that troll aint shit. I would anti-troll him hard.

WHERE ARE YOU TROLL? YOU HEAR ME?!
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sociopaths fear to be alone.
they want to be part of a group.

to keep the group connected, they make war against individuals.

that way they dont have to share the
thoughts of the indiviuals
which would make them, alone again.

society produces such people.

they are not able to go their own way; they are sheeple.
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I honestly don't mind trolls. If you ignore them or laugh with them when they insult you they go away. Plus it is fun to join in some times. I personally enjoy trolling the trolls. I like to post some vid to one of their image boards that appears to be porn but ends up just being something silly like a Verka Serduchka video. stoner

Here is one of my favs to get people to watch [link to www.youtube.com]
Ben (not his real name) first started trolling in 2008 on the online forum 4Chan.
 Quoting: Possum

oh, and rules 1 & 2.

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Ok so that settles it.

higher dimensional parasites have lodged themselves in the brains of any human who vampires energy from another human and feeds off of it

that is not our spiritual nature, so for this to work, you literally have to open the door to your soul up to a vampire/demon spirit
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sociopaths fear to be alone.
they want to be part of a group.

to keep the group connected, they make war against individuals.

that way they dont have to share the
thoughts of the indiviuals
which would make them, alone again.

society produces such people.

they are not able to go their own way; they are sheeple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11601322


Yes, an advanced mind.

These are ego reactions, these social constructs and forms of creating drama to get attention. Like an attention whore, but there is no danger or threat, he's online.

Completely brain fucked.

Like a teen boy humping his computer, because his brain has convinced him it's actually socially acceptable.
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I disagree, Trolling is in fact a group activity, its a group think attack on an individual, led my a leader who we can call a troll, he imnstigates they follow.

that is true trolling.
The idea that a group of people can feel intimidated by one persons ocntrary argument is just plain silly
how can that be a troll?

No i insist trolling is a group activitiy
led by the one and followed by the many.

that is at least my experience of it.
if i ma talking to noe person wh disagresss with me one on one
i see that a debate, but if they get nasty or stupid i will just not talk anymore.

so whats the problem with trolls really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11591736


Yes, it's memetic, it must catch on.

The problem is that you don't wake up to a crowd of angry teen pranksters in your room or out your lawn, so you shouldn't have to answer to that online.

Put any of them in a real life situation, they suck the cock of everyone in the room.

Give them a computer or a mask or megaphone and they talk all the shit in the world.

Child porn magazine jack off - > online child porn magazine jackoff

kid who feels like a piece of shit with no self-esteem and must carry that on to another - > internet troll
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Hows it hanging guys lolol, now thats pretty funny

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Trolls are sociopaths.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9472664


Agreed!
 Quoting: Possum


So anybody who doesnt share your opinion is a troll? Its all good as long as everyone is telling you how right you are. Put it out there for the world to see and someone is gonna disagree. Dont like it go to China
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energetic vampire... the worst of all kinds... sad existence
a free man chooses, a slave obeys
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"It just makes me happy when I can make someone angry. It sounds weird but I kind of feed off their anger. The angrier I can get them, the better I feel," he told news.com.au.
He usually only trolls a post or website once before moving, not out of any sense of decency, but because he is scared of being arrested.
He said the worst thing he ever did was vandalise the Facebook memorial page of a young girl who had committed suicide. "I wrote, 'How's it hanging guys'."
He doesn't feel any remorse, and strangely doesn't consider his actions bullying despite claiming he probably wouldn't have started trolling if he had not been bullied at school.
 Quoting: Possum


Trolls are sociopaths.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9472664


Some. It sounds like a lot of them are passive-aggressive like the kid above.

Rather than retaliate against the source, they go after someone else.
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some people are just evil !
like Peta who say they save animals and
just kills them to end there sufering!!!
saves them money to.
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This article sounds out of date. I haven't seen any real trolls for a long time.

Insults are somewhat amusing.
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Trolls have been around long before the internets and will around long after. Remember boys and girls a trolls magic can only work on you if you let it.
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Interesting indeed... I knew the trolls were only pathetic attention whores.

#1 Best spell against trolls: ignore them!
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I remember the old days, prior to the web, and before the unwashed masses were released from AOL. What a fine, and wondrous place the internet was. Each fall a new influx from colleges would appear, and the community would chastise any bad behaviour. There were rules of conduct which were widely disseminated. It was community moderation at its finest.

Then the flood gates opened during The Eternal September.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Almost overnight, it was like a trailer park was planted right next door.
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Ok so that settles it.

higher dimensional parasites have lodged themselves in the brains of any human who vampires energy from another human and feeds off of it

that is not our spiritual nature, so for this to work, you literally have to open the door to your soul up to a vampire/demon spirit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10417993


So if I do not share the opinion of someone who posts something for the world to see and read, I am a demon?
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Hay guy's i need one more karma to pin this.

unless someone else wants to pin it?

Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 02/28/2012 02:58 PM
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I remember the old days, prior to the web, and before the unwashed masses were released from AOL. What a fine, and wondrous place the internet was. Each fall a new influx from colleges would appear, and the community would chastise any bad behaviour. There were rules of conduct which were widely disseminated. It was community moderation at its finest.

Then the flood gates opened during The Eternal September.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Almost overnight, it was like a trailer park was planted right next door.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11442014


Your remarks are condesending to people who live in mobile homes. You are a vampire/demon

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