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I find this so interesting. You know, I have went back and forth for a long time on why something is good, or evil. Why I believe that a person should do, or refrain from doing because it is good and that is bad. I finally came to the conclusion that I cannot justify my own perceptions of good and evil. I can't tell you why I believe that pushing an old lady under a bus (for no apparent reason) is wrong. I can only tell you it "feels" wrong. That my conscience won't allow it. I finally came to the conclusion that it was imbedded in my DNA. I don't care to speculate why. But if good and evil does "exist". I suppose it is written there.
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Talmudic Law. Why - self explanatory.
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Evil is for me to to take your 10k $.

This is the only proof you need, and not the one you think it might be.

If you hope that someone, anyone, to give a proper definition of evil, your are hopless.
Everyone sees evil from his own eyes.What is evil for a somalian, is not evil for a sudanese.
What is evil for a iranian, is not for an israeli.

And so on.


If you happy with my answer, just contact me to settle how and when to send me the 10k.

Is that evil enough for you?
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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Self "ishness"

Proof = remove this "ishness" from the Earth and you have a perfect planet.
If your delivery sucks, it doesn't matter how right you are.
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EVIL is NOT good! Good is NOT evil. There ya go!
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ERROR!!

GOOD IS YOUR VERSION OF YOUR TRUTH!!!

NOT "THE TRUTH"!!!!
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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Self "ishness"

Proof = remove this "ishness" from the Earth and you have a perfect planet.
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REMOVE ISHNESS...

YOU HAVE NOTHING!!!

PROOF...

DEFINTION OF PERFECT!!!
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evolution got ill = in short: evil

hf
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to live is evil
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^that^

Because when Alive, you learn what it is to love and hate and as much as we love to be alive - we hate to say good bye.

All things perish from the earth.

Therefore the loss of something is evil. It is merely the yang to the yin, black of the white, etc.
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Probably perturbations in our consciousness from the lower order of our brains. Like the place where the involuntary stuff is, tied into some serious shit. Like the reward system our body has, serious shit not to be fucked with.

Some of these perturbations can express themselves in ways that are likely shunned in our society.

Also, one could to take into account our tendency to project our inner struggles on to the outer world, to have a safe place to work on it (like on a forum).
Jus kiddin.

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Probably perturbations in our consciousness from the lower order of our brains. Like the place where the involuntary stuff is, tied into some serious shit. Like the reward system our body has, serious shit not to be fucked with.

Some of these perturbations can express themselves in ways that are likely shunned in our society.

Also, one could to take into account our tendency to project our inner struggles on to the outer world, to have a safe place to work on it (like on a forum).
Jus kiddin.

cheers
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In a literal sense, I agree with your perspective. It has a lot of substance.
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Probably perturbations in our consciousness from the lower order of our brains. Like the place where the involuntary stuff is, tied into some serious shit. Like the reward system our body has, serious shit not to be fucked with.

Some of these perturbations can express themselves in ways that are likely shunned in our society.

Also, one could to take into account our tendency to project our inner struggles on to the outer world, to have a safe place to work on it (like on a forum).
Jus kiddin.

cheers
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In a literal sense, I agree with your perspective. It has a lot of substance.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


Thank you.

hf

Wish it had $10,000 worth of substance, lol.

Last Edited by Livingood on 10/31/2012 02:03 AM
”It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” - Aristotle
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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Sadistic parasitism.

Because it is the negation of all life process value through the antithesis of love.
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The theory that thought is merely a movement in the brain is, in my opinion, nonsense; for if so, that theory itself would be merely a movement, an event among atoms, which may have speed and direction but of which it would be meaningless to use the words 'true' or 'false'.
C.S. Lewis

If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions… … Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain, in turn created by too much pizza the night before. If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena, like swamp gas over fetid water. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality. If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else.
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The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of.
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My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?... Of course I could have given up my idea of justice by saying it was nothing but a private idea of my own. But if I did that, then my argument against God collapsed too--for the argument depended on saying the world was really unjust, not simply that it did not happen to please my fancies. Thus, in the very act of trying to prove that God did not exist - in other words, that the whole of reality was senseless - I found I was forced to assume that one part of reality - namely my idea of justice - was full of sense. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never have known it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.
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If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents - the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else's. But if their thoughts - i.e., Materialism and Astronomy - are mere accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It's like expecting the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug. It should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.
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Of course people ignore the hardcore answers.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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I will take a stab at it. $5000 will do ( smile).

Evil is minimal good and good is minimal evil. Both are two sides of the same coin. Good and evil are labels of the mind.That is the function of the mind - to label. The mind is in duality and in life there is no duality.Nothimng wrong with the mind. It is doing it's thing.

All is energy. All is light. All are just molecules, electrons, neutrons ,atoms etc.

Man doesn't see. Man thinks. The seeing is there. But the eyes do not see. The eyes receive light waves. All images are in the mind. That is why the sages say we live in a world of thoughts.

So the seeing is happening but the mind comes in and labels. This or that is beautiful or that is ugly. I like this and I don't like that etc. You get the drift. This is what I mean when I see we don't see - we think. The true seeing is without judgment or preferences.

Back to the labels good and evil. They exist in thought only and in the mind.And the mind is illusory.The mind is not in life. Life is void of labels. Life is whatever is happening in the present moment.Life is the aliveness. The mind is never in the present but in the past and future. The past and future only exist in thought not in actuality.

The mind is not real as the mind is just a thought. Real is what is eternal and always present.Real has no beginning or end. Thoughts come and go. Where is your previous thought? Where is it? It is gone as all of previous thoughts are gone. Good and evil are just words. And words are not the real thing. Can you drink the word " water?" Can the word fire burn you ? Of course not. But in the relative mind good and evil exists in this illusory world. I say this world is not real. The world is a thought. The world disappears in deep sleep so where is it ? IT appears when you wake up from sleep because the mind begins to function. The mind may label an apple as good as the hungry man takes a bite into it. Good for the man but bad for the apple. Depends n your perspective. Hope this helps.
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Evil is you saying you will give someone $10,000 when in fact you are a troll.
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Because when Alive, you learn what it is to love and hate and as much as we love to be alive - we hate to say good bye.

All things perish from the earth.

Therefore the loss of something is evil. It is merely the yang to the yin, black of the white, etc.


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Just giving my 2 cents here. Nothing perishes by the way. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Energy just transforms to another form. There is no loss in life. Only loss in the mind.

Love and hate are also labels. Love is minimal hate and hate is minimal love.

The world is an illusion. Illusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It exist, but not in the way the mind says it does. What the mind labels as love is not love. Love is unconditional. What is love in the mind is conditional. I will love you as long as you meet my expectations and demands.Couples promise to love one another til death do them part but what happens ? They divorce and hate each other and why ? Because of conditions. Love in the mind is just likes and dislikes.
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Because when Alive, you learn what it is to love and hate and as much as we love to be alive - we hate to say good bye.

All things perish from the earth.

Therefore the loss of something is evil. It is merely the yang to the yin, black of the white, etc.


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Just giving my 2 cents here. Nothing perishes by the way. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Energy just transforms to another form. There is no loss in life. Only loss in the mind.

Love and hate are also labels. Love is minimal hate and hate is minimal love.

The world is an illusion. Illusion doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It exist, but not in the way the mind says it does. What the mind labels as love is not love. Love is unconditional. What is love in the mind is conditional. I will love you as long as you meet my expectations and demands.Couples promise to love one another til death do them part but what happens ? They divorce and hate each other and why ? Because of conditions. Love in the mind is just likes and dislikes.
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You are evil, I am evil. You are love, I am love. We are, just as evil is, exactly what we define ourselves as.
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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Why do you need to know?
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You are evil, I am evil. You are love, I am love. We are, just as evil is, exactly what we define ourselves as.
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Exactly. People are all "LAZY STONER!"
I'm like whatever. I'm a renaissance man.
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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an Opposite Energy.
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Balance.
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Another thing is good is defined by it's opposite. Good is not independent for it is dependent on the existence of bad or evil. So both are necessary. So many religious people desire a world without evil or bad. That is impossible. Good and evil exists together as one.Like I said good is minimal evil and evil is minimal good. The mind deals in opposites. Light is defined by it's opposite -darkness.

A tall man is defined by the existence of a short person and vice versa. The mind compares as I shared the mind is in duality. and life is non dual.
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Balance.




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Exactly.
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Evil is...

Starting a thread like this for it only to waste peoples precious time and give them false hope of at least a chance that you might be serious.

My proof is that you haven't come back and you got the last laugh.
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Another thing is good is defined by it's opposite. Good is not independent for it is dependent on the existence of bad or evil. So both are necessary. So many religious people desire a world without evil or bad. That is impossible. Good and evil exists together as one.Like I said good is minimal evil and evil is minimal good. The mind deals in opposites. Light is defined by it's opposite -darkness.

A tall man is defined by the existence of a short person and vice versa. The mind compares as I shared the mind is in duality. and life is non dual.
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yea, it seems so obvious to me now - I enjoy watching any system, which uses this pair, and names them "wings" and makes them "fight each other" (flap) - can't wait to see the look of each "side's" face when their whole system suddenly "flies" (that's what pairs of wings do) flight is the "reward" received by the pair of opposite energies that can understand their need to both co-exist and even work together, toward to mutual goal (in this case flight, which they accidently discovered...by causing the wing pair to fight each other...)
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WHAT IS EVIL AND WHY?
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wait do you know the answer for you are asking us? Evil is a weakness of our own, it's a product of duality system, good is no better than evil, they are both of the mind and for survival. Hence why there is no evil when a being gets to enlightenment state, it litetrally doesn't exist, neither good exists.
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EVIL is NOT good! Good is NOT evil. There ya go!
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ERROR!!

GOOD IS YOUR VERSION OF YOUR TRUTH!!!

NOT "THE TRUTH"!!!!
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ERROR!!!

You can insert any version of "The Truth" into the side of good, and it becomes the opposite of evil.
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Rememeber as long as you're going with the good you're still in the duality system, because good is relative to that what is evil, thought of evil to be exact, evil is the ground for comparison and morals. At the basis stays physical pain and fear of it, fear of suffering of being alone and lonely.

Now there is a totally different affair that is not of duality, we cannot imagine it, or think about it, or remember it, at most we can try and recall the situation that triggered that amazzing flash of reality but we still have to remain clear and calm, not expecting it. Mind has to be relaxed. But which is very hard to attain(there needs not be any feeling of attaining), and almost impossible knowing the power and intensity of that experience. It's like you try to reach to the most amazing thing that has ever hapened to you and the most you try the harsher you become inside and further away from it. This is the father of all frustrations.
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EVIL is NOT good! Good is NOT evil. There ya go!
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ERROR!!

GOOD IS YOUR VERSION OF YOUR TRUTH!!!

NOT "THE TRUTH"!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26685541


ERROR!!!

You can insert any version of "The Truth" into the side of good, and it becomes the opposite of evil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26405022


"THE TRUTH" IS NOT GOOD!!!

GOOD IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE, PERFECT OR CLEAR!!!

THEREFORE GOOD IS ON "THE SIDE" OF EVIL...

HENSE...

"THE TREE" OF "THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL!!!