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why did jesus pray to god (himself)?

 
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus was the son of god, idiot.
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idiot? haha
Im the idiot?
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
he was praying to himself to give people an example how it's done...
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There have been prayers in the bible since the begining. they had thousands of years of practice before jesus came.

Were they doing it wrong in the old testament?
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus is not God but was a man

It tells you that in the Bible:

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

now if you want to say I am wrong, please bring scripture where it says that Jesus Christ is God
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
These christians will never accept the truth!

How can it be said in the bible that There is none like God, yet he has a son according to christians? come on!! open your eyes, your lying to yourselves..

Prophet Noah and Abraham didnt become believers of a trinity... The only reason GOD accepted them was because they knew >>>> There is none like GOD.


JESUS never said he was the son of GOD, spirit of GOD or GOD himself! Thats simply the worst sin you can ever make/believe.




These people will never learn..
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
These christians will never accept the truth!

How can it be said in the bible that There is none like God, yet he has a son according to christians? come on!! open your eyes, your lying to yourselves..

Prophet Noah and Abraham didnt become believers of a trinity... The only reason GOD accepted them was because they knew >>>> There is none like GOD.


JESUS never said he was the son of GOD, spirit of GOD or GOD himself! Thats simply the worst sin you can ever make/believe.




These people will never learn..
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Am I apart of "these people" Because the question I asked deeply matters to me. What I search is truth. Truth never changes. I can find it. I believe its the one true god, the creator of all things. So Naturally I can to the bible, asked god into my heart, and I have had amazing changes for the better since then. I want to know If went are meant for more, can we know what jesus knew? Christianity to me is very spiritual. But should we be spiritual? Did he want us to have christ conciousness? Did he want us to become aware? Enlightened in the holy spirit? Did he want us to understand the laws of nature? Did he want us to harness the light? and get out of the darkness? Can we come to light without the belief in jesus, but the belief in his father? All questions that matter to me.... Yes I will learn
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
If anyone would read the Old Testament, they would know that God said, he would send his son. He would be called God on earth, among other things. He was the Messiah God sent to be the Word of God, doesn't make him God. He was willing to do what God said, and his reward is great. He is Gods Son.

You have a teacher, it is called The Holy Spirit, and that is your communication with God, that part of God that dwells in you. If you believe that he sent his son, not to condemn the world, but through him, the world maybe saved. You are the temple of the Lord, not some building made of stone, The Congregation Of God, each are a part of that Church!
 Quoting: Daughter


So dont worship jesus. Believe in the reasons why he came and worship the father. do you believe you can talk with him? Or the "enlightenment" of the holy spirit? Harnessing light and understanding what it is?
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Yahushua said "The people worship me in vain".
Yahushua said "I reject the praise of men".
Yahushua told "satan"- "IT IS WRITTEN, YOU MUST WORSHIP YAH, AND HIM ONLY WILL YOU SERVE".

YAHUDAH, the word from which Judah comes, which is the word from which we get jewish, means YAH IS PRAISED.

WHY WOULD YOU, OR ANYONE, EVEN MENTION SOMEONE NAMED JESUS, LET ALONE PRAISE OR WORSHIP SOMEONE WITH THAT NAME?

I'LL TELL YOU WHY. YOUR FATHERS TAUGHT YOU THAT LIE. JEREMIAH SAID THAT THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE GENTILES WILL SAY "SURELY OUR FATHERS HAVE INHERITED LIES".

SOONER OR LATER, YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT JESUS IS JUST A LIE FROM YOUR FATHERS. THAT YOU LOVE MORE THAN THE TRUTH.

IF YOU LOVE JESUS, YOU LOVE LIES. SO, "WHO IS YOUR FATHER"?

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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Yahushua said "I reject the praise of men".
Yahushua told "satan"- "IT IS WRITTEN, YOU MUST WORSHIP YAH, AND HIM ONLY WILL YOU SERVE".

YAHUDAH, the word from which Judah comes, which is the word from which we get jewish, means YAH IS PRAISED.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Yahushua said "The people worship me in vain".
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Not really, e.g.

Daniel 7:13 one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
The bible is mythology. If you are seeking God, look within.
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And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:4-5

But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Matthew 16:24
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
I want the truuuuuth!!!!! And Its so hard to find it when I dont have faith in man, because what we read, what weve learned, and most of what we know is FROM man. If jesus was a man, and god. Why did he as man, pray to god who was himself? Ive been learning of Light and darkness. How jesus said he was light, but there is a creator of all. The ONE true god. Why would we have to accept a human as god, when we can believe in the one true god that jesus prayed to. do we give everything inside of us to jesus? or the GOD. Just very confused with all this. Hopefully you all can shed a little light on.
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Come and see!

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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
he was masturbating.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Because Jesus was "God"
Just as you are your own "God"
Human beings as a whole=God. The world does what we want it to do.....
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
When Jesus came here as our Savior, he had to live FULLY human! Although he was truly God, he was also fully man and chose to veil his divinity in flesh, to live as us, so he could relate to us completely. Do die for us and save us from our sins, he had to be fully human (because obviously man can NOT kill God, even if they wanted to). He was "God with us", and when he did anything he did just as we do today, he prayed to his father, relied on his father, etc. instead of using his divinity. He could raise the dead and heal the sick because he was completely God and because he also relied on his father for power. If Jesus would not have come here to die for us, there would have been NO hope at all for the human race!
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Because Jesus was "God"
Just as you are your own "God"
Human beings as a whole=God. The world does what we want it to do.....
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No, not true and totally stupid to say! Without the creator God, you wouldn't be here at all!
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus is not God but was a man

It tells you that in the Bible:

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

now if you want to say I am wrong, please bring scripture where it says that Jesus Christ is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728
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And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 tim 3:16


For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. John 5:7


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
(dot dot dot)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.John 1:14
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus is not God but was a man

It tells you that in the Bible:

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

now if you want to say I am wrong, please bring scripture where it says that Jesus Christ is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Read John 1... it clearly says Jesus WAS God! he was the WORD made FLESH... in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word WAS God!! Jesus was our creator!
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Because Jesus was "God"
Just as you are your own "God"
Human beings as a whole=God. The world does what we want it to do.....
 Quoting: UnBorn 26573064


Come up here to this mountain top with me.

You = god.

*points out, points up, points down, swoops all around, touches forehead, and touches your forehead*

THAT is God.

Recognize that there is ALWAYS something higher than yourself.

Then you will understand where all the power you think you have comes from.

Alone, you are powerless. But with the LORD, you are ALL powerful.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
cuz god really really gets a kick out of watching people bicker on the internet so he made it all very confusing.
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cuz god really really gets a kick out of watching people bicker on the internet so he made it all very confusing.
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No, it is because those who know the Truth conceal it.

And make you believe anyone who reveals it is a fool or an enemy.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
I want the truuuuuth!!!!! And Its so hard to find it when I dont have faith in man, because what we read, what weve learned, and most of what we know is FROM man. If jesus was a man, and god. Why did he as man, pray to god who was himself? Ive been learning of Light and darkness. How jesus said he was light, but there is a creator of all. The ONE true god. Why would we have to accept a human as god, when we can believe in the one true god that jesus prayed to. do we give everything inside of us to jesus? or the GOD. Just very confused with all this. Hopefully you all can shed a little light on.
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Because the Jews wrote the bible and Jesus is a jewish freemason who sold himself to the devil. In turn for all his magical powers he has to promote the lord who is satan. The Our Father is a jewish prayer to the moon God. Remember CHrist Our Lady's is God.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Hmmmm ..... Well I seek truth too in my own way, so since your looking for insight, I'll give you mine, I believe that we all embody apart of god the father and mother and the son/daughter. We All being like jesus that son or daughter, as a human, like he was, he spoke to the father and the father him because as one said he already just knew, the mother/ daughter is the holy spirit inside your heart bring love and comfort and wisdom from our father/son to us. Making a family of god, to become like Jesus is to know the truth inside you by passing through your heart which in turn is passing by you the child(or jesus) with the mother comforting and helping with wisdom to perpare you to speak to the father yourself with the right understanding and frame of heart and mind. I also believe that the Daugther/mother and Son/ father will return to bring the people to the same state as they will be, some believe that it sound like the bible talks like their will be four witnesses because of the way it is described. I think in a since yes the two to come will also carry the balance of male and female, father and mother but them still being them themseleves, so in a sence there would be four, any ways some of my ponderings on my path.

Lots of love to you OP

Oxx
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Hmmmm ..... Well I seek truth too in my own way, so since your looking for insight, I'll give you mine, I believe that we all embody apart of god the father and mother and the son/daughter. We All being like jesus that son or daughter, as a human, like he was, he spoke to the father and the father him because as one said he already just knew, the mother/ daughter is the holy spirit inside your heart bring love and comfort and wisdom from our father/son to us. Making a family of god, to become like Jesus is to know the truth inside you by passing through your heart which in turn is passing by you the child(or jesus) with the mother comforting and helping with wisdom to perpare you to speak to the father yourself with the right understanding and frame of heart and mind. I also believe that the Daugther/mother and Son/ father will return to bring the people to the same state as they will be, some believe that it sound like the bible talks like their will be four witnesses because of the way it is described. I think in a since yes the two to come will also carry the balance of male and female, father and mother but them still being them themseleves, so in a sence there would be four, any ways some of my ponderings on my path.

Lots of love to you OP

Oxx
 Quoting: ELLE SPIRIT


+1
Only through the heart we may see what is real, and through the light and wisdom of our mind truly understand.... Beautiful and deep written, also the part of the two witnesses that resembles four, through their balance between feminine and masculine, that balance this world so deeply needs to bring forth the new era of truth and love... thanks love
Oxx
just be love in truth...
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Because you ain't saving shit.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
I want the truuuuuth!!!!! And Its so hard to find it when I dont have faith in man, because what we read, what weve learned, and most of what we know is FROM man. If jesus was a man, and god. Why did he as man, pray to god who was himself? Ive been learning of Light and darkness. How jesus said he was light, but there is a creator of all. The ONE true god. Why would we have to accept a human as god, when we can believe in the one true god that jesus prayed to. do we give everything inside of us to jesus? or the GOD. Just very confused with all this. Hopefully you all can shed a little light on.
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He didn't,
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Physician heal thy self.
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I want the truuuuuth!!!!! And Its so hard to find it when I dont have faith in man, because what we read, what weve learned, and most of what we know is FROM man. If jesus was a man, and god. Why did he as man, pray to god who was himself? Ive been learning of Light and darkness. How jesus said he was light, but there is a creator of all. The ONE true god. Why would we have to accept a human as god, when we can believe in the one true god that jesus prayed to. do we give everything inside of us to jesus? or the GOD. Just very confused with all this. Hopefully you all can shed a little light on.
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Mental masturbation :-)
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus is not God but was a man

It tells you that in the Bible:

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

now if you want to say I am wrong, please bring scripture where it says that Jesus Christ is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Read John 1... it clearly says Jesus WAS God! he was the WORD made FLESH... in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word WAS God!! Jesus was our creator!
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Talk about the most contradictory heap of codswallop ever penned!
And yet the sheep still eat it up...No wonder humanity is fucked :-)
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
I want the truuuuuth!!!!! And Its so hard to find it when I dont have faith in man, because what we read, what weve learned, and most of what we know is FROM man. If jesus was a man, and god. Why did he as man, pray to god who was himself? Ive been learning of Light and darkness. How jesus said he was light, but there is a creator of all. The ONE true god. Why would we have to accept a human as god, when we can believe in the one true god that jesus prayed to. do we give everything inside of us to jesus? or the GOD. Just very confused with all this. Hopefully you all can shed a little light on.
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Re: why did jesus pray to god (himself)?
Jesus is not God but was a man

It tells you that in the Bible:

1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

now if you want to say I am wrong, please bring scripture where it says that Jesus Christ is God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Read John 1... it clearly says Jesus WAS God! he was the WORD made FLESH... in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word WAS God!! Jesus was our creator!
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Talk about the most contradictory heap of codswallop ever penned!
And yet the sheep still eat it up...No wonder humanity is fucked :-)
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Name-calling and bashing proves nothing but that you are the true sheep with uneducated echoes of the masses.

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Why did Jesus need to pray at all? Why did Jesus pray out loud, audibly? Could God the Father hear his Son if He prayed silently? Of course. However, Jesus told us why He prayed right before He raised Lazarus from the dead: "Father, I thank you for having heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I have said this for the sake of the crowd standing here, so that they may believe that you sent me," John 11:41-42.
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