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UPDATE! PA judge who tossed case in which Muslim attacked Athiests NOW claims to be Lutheran NOT Muslim even though he was recorded saying it!

 
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He was a very clear speaker (except right after he said he was a Muslim). He did say it.

So,the defendant got a lecture on their culture. The judge stated something that in America we have Christianity (he neglected to say and many other religions) and that unlike Christianity there's is more than just a religion, it's a culture....
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Does that mean he just agreed with the woman who did a video stating that it is not a religion but a political movement?
I found that woman to be very mean and obviously hated Islam with a passion, but it seems that this judge agrees that it is indeed "not just a religion". That kind of statement opens a floodgate of controversy.
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If people are upset in his area, they should really try and recall him. At the very least, vote him out when the time comes.
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why is it every time i see my state in the news it is because of something very negative. and it doesnt help that i live in one of the most corrupt counties in PA. my family should have never moved here from new york back in the 80's.

i have a friend who moved down the keys 2 years ago and he was tryin to get me to go with him. i thought i should stay here in pa because no one else would help my mother at home. maybe i was wrong.
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It's an infection that spreads from DC. The closer you live, the sooner you'll se it.
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why is it every time i see my state in the news it is because of something very negative. and it doesnt help that i live in one of the most corrupt counties in PA. my family should have never moved here from new york back in the 80's.

i have a friend who moved down the keys 2 years ago and he was tryin to get me to go with him. i thought i should stay here in pa because no one else would help my mother at home. maybe i was wrong.
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It's an infection that spreads from DC. The closer you live, the sooner you'll se it.
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Funny you said that, I said the exact same thing to my husband last night! PA is worse than the DC area in some ways, it's amazing how much they can get away with.
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if it has it's own rules, interpretations goals laws and punishments that can be meted out to others that contact them ITS A GOVERNMENT! \
There is no right of an outside minority government to have priority over the prevailing majority government. The proper definition for that is INVASION.
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I don't care what religion he claims to be a part of he is a biased partial judge who has no business on the bench.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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If people are upset in his area, they should really try and recall him. At the very least, vote him out when the time comes.
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The Patriot-News is reporting that Judge Mark Martin and his staff have been temporarily relocated to the Cumberland County Courthouse in Carlisle due to complaints and threats.
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hbird If you would like to know more about the Muslims from a Christian point of view.

ALLAH HAD NO SON... [link to www.chick.com]
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If people are upset in his area, they should really try and recall him. At the very least, vote him out when the time comes.
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The Patriot-News is reporting that Judge Mark Martin and his staff have been temporarily relocated to the Cumberland County Courthouse in Carlisle due to complaints and threats.
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Sounds like a good start. With any luck they will relocate him right out of office.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Re: UPDATE! PA judge who tossed case in which Muslim attacked Athiests NOW claims to be Lutheran NOT Muslim even though he was recorded saying it!
It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
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I thought this as well, wonder if it's a type of baiting to see if they can stir up all those FBI designated terrorists out there...
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
 Quoting: D'Light


As if that wasn't enough, he allegedly threatened the plaintiff with contempt of court if his diatribe wound up on youtube. Problem is his court and that trial were public. What an arrogant bastard.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
 Quoting: D'Light


As if that wasn't enough, he allegedly threatened the plaintiff with contempt of court if his diatribe wound up on youtube. Problem is his court and that trial were public. What an arrogant bastard.
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Wow, where did you read that at?
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It does not matter what religion he is; what matters is that he is a TERRIBLE judge. He should be removed from the bench.
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I don't care what religion he claims to be a part of he is a biased partial judge who has no business on the bench.
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^THIS!^
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It does not matter what religion he is; what matters is that he is a TERRIBLE judge. He should be removed from the bench.
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The point is that he is now lying about something he said earlier, not to mention it shows that he is not exactly impartial, as Islam is not just a religion (as he himself ended up saying).
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This judge is an idiot.

Typical, for people in positions of power, he lies about what he said, not realizing that it was being recorded.

F'ing idiot.

Someone needs to declare jihad on his a$$.

Nice article OP! Thanks!

+5
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huge gun show at the York Fairgrounds this past weekend

huge crowds too, I think they were all there because of this judge
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Shit I missed it!
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It does not matter what religion he is; what matters is that he is a TERRIBLE judge. He should be removed from the bench.
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The point is that he is now lying about something he said earlier, not to mention it shows that he is not exactly impartial, as Islam is not just a religion (as he himself ended up saying).
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The term is Taqiyya. It is a common practice among the "blessed warriors".
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
 Quoting: D'Light


As if that wasn't enough, he allegedly threatened the plaintiff with contempt of court if his diatribe wound up on youtube. Problem is his court and that trial were public. What an arrogant bastard.
 Quoting: Resister


Wow, where did you read that at?
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Here is a little bit from The American Thinker:

"It gets worse. Since his ordeal began, the infidel victim, Ernest Perce, has received 471 verifiable threats. Perce never released any personal information on Judge Martin or Elbayomy, but they released his, and now he has gotten threats at his home. He may also soon be spending time in jail because he released audio of the court proceeding. Martin is threatening to hold Perce in contempt of court for releasing the audio, even though Perce says he was given permission to release it."

Read more: [link to www.americanthinker.com]

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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
 Quoting: D'Light


As if that wasn't enough, he allegedly threatened the plaintiff with contempt of court if his diatribe wound up on youtube. Problem is his court and that trial were public. What an arrogant bastard.
 Quoting: Resister


Wow, where did you read that at?
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Here is a little bit from The American Thinker:

"It gets worse. Since his ordeal began, the infidel victim, Ernest Perce, has received 471 verifiable threats. Perce never released any personal information on Judge Martin or Elbayomy, but they released his, and now he has gotten threats at his home. He may also soon be spending time in jail because he released audio of the court proceeding. Martin is threatening to hold Perce in contempt of court for releasing the audio, even though Perce says he was given permission to release it."

Read more: [link to www.americanthinker.com]
 Quoting: Resister


WOW! From your link:

Perce: Remember, a Muslim can lie to a nonbeliever, a kaffir. He spoke Arabic to the defendant and his friend. They answered back. If he claims he isn't a Muslim, then why does he have a Koran? Why did he challenge me to a debate on the interpretation of the Koran? Why get mad at me and insult me? Why then go on a six-minute rant against me? Why value Islam above Christianity? He said, "They pray five times a day, towards Mecca. To be a good Muslim before you die, you have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca." Christians pray all the time, jewish people pray all the time, Buddhists follow the basics of karma. Humanists will do no harm to anyone.
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It seems as if the judge incriminated himself (upon citizens review) when he lectured the victim and talked about what would happen over there and "ugly Americans"-which is all true, but doesn't matter here (except in this judges mind).

If he wanted to let the defendant off the hook, he should have done without the lecturing and just said there wasn't sufficient evidence and then let it be.

Think this is a Psy-Ops to get people riled up?
 Quoting: D'Light


As if that wasn't enough, he allegedly threatened the plaintiff with contempt of court if his diatribe wound up on youtube. Problem is his court and that trial were public. What an arrogant bastard.
 Quoting: Resister


Wow, where did you read that at?
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Here is a little bit from The American Thinker:

"It gets worse. Since his ordeal began, the infidel victim, Ernest Perce, has received 471 verifiable threats. Perce never released any personal information on Judge Martin or Elbayomy, but they released his, and now he has gotten threats at his home. He may also soon be spending time in jail because he released audio of the court proceeding. Martin is threatening to hold Perce in contempt of court for releasing the audio, even though Perce says he was given permission to release it."

Read more: [link to www.americanthinker.com]
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Forgot to put this...

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The kosher nostra casino mobsters pretend to be Americans , but help Izzrael steal and war monger , wpretending to be victims ........... indict the KAHANE KKK.
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lol its hip and cool to be muslim these days everybody's doin it
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Not just "these days". People have been converting to Islam for over 1400 years now, Muslims will prevail over the planet eventually like the Prophet Muhammad predicted. Islam is not a fad.
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i didnt say it was a fad militant muslim dude lol.

it's a container that was created for people to throw themselves into so they can be better organized and controlled, like all the other mythic thinking constructs.
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lol its hip and cool to be muslim these days everybody's doin it
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Not just "these days". People have been converting to Islam for over 1400 years now, Muslims will prevail over the planet eventually like the Prophet Muhammad predicted. Islam is not a fad.
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The more islam I hear the higher I get bored with it.
It is only fanatical, like fans of a soccer club.
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They lie all the time, in fact it's encouraged to lie to all infidels ..
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The islamists should know and recognize not everybody will like their sect faith, so they should accept it and respect other peoples faith.

And if someone goes around with a Zombie-Muhammad-Dress he express his opinion openly about this sect and the islamists should respect it and do not attack violently an islamic critic.
Islamists should accept the critics and work the critics out.

They always defend, defend, defend all critics like Pavlovs dog conditioned.
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And I have to warn all islamics converts, you can never leave this sect, after you converted to this sect you are the property of the sect islam, you can never go back to other religions or become an Atheist or whatsoever.

You will loose all your free will and all your personal freedom, no more free choice, you became a slave of the sect islam.

For all islam leavers, the apostates of islam, there is only death sentence for you.
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in short: a bunch of trailer trash insult and threaten a muslim, they get their ass handed to them, court says there is no evidence the muslim was the attacker but it was self defense, morons go raging how a muslim is allowed to fight back when attacked.

get a life.





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