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miffed_33 (OP)

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Thank you so much for posting this.

My oldest son was diagnosed with ADHD about 1 1/2 years ago. The teachers at his school have been HOUNDING me to put him on meds, and I just can't do it. But, he does need something, right now we get by with behavior therapy stuff and keeping him on a strict schedule helps.
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Have you tried a small cup of coffee in the mornings and a protein rich lunch?
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Not sure if its "protein rich" but he does get protein with lunch every day.

I've been reading up on the coffee thing too, seriously considering it.
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It said "protein rich", but I took that to mean to lower the carbohydrates in the lunch, which will jack you up, then leave you flat and affect your behavior (or a childs) all day.


Most teachers are only there for the money and the benefits and not because they really like kids. They want to drug the active kids so that they won't be a bother to them. There are probably more kids on ritalin because the teacher insisted than because a doctor recommended.
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ADHD is very complex in my opinion. The very first thing to do is read EVERYTHING you can get your hands on! My stepfather shows EVERY sign of ADHD & Aspergers. (bags not trying to help change that one!!!!)

Cut out ALL artificial additives (they are designed to do their job & well) I think it's 626 or 262 (used to preserve bread-higher shelf life) it's a MAJOR contributor of bad behavior.
No red or believe it or not 'yellow' foods ie: corn. RESEARCH & YOU WILL BE REWARDED!!!!
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Thank you so much for posting this.

My oldest son was diagnosed with ADHD about 1 1/2 years ago. The teachers at his school have been HOUNDING me to put him on meds, and I just can't do it. But, he does need something, right now we get by with behavior therapy stuff and keeping him on a strict schedule helps.
 Quoting: amywood71605


guy I worked with, his kids went postal if exposed to yellow dye number 4. Even Ralphs all natural ice cream had it in it. No dye no hyper
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Yes, someone I know who has worked with ADD kids has mentioned the coffee thing...actually half coffee/half milk. As well, the dye thing. She mentioned avoiding red dye, I forget which "#"
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I just wanted to AMEND the remedy above that my friend offered for ADD kids. She says her mom has used it for years, to calm her younger brother (who is autistic as well):

4 oz coffee, 4 oz milk, and 2 teaspoons sugar... She says a similar solution is making a cup of hot chocolate, using 1/2 milk.

IDK--just one person's experience, that I know of.
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OP, I am just now starting to take niacinamide, as I read/heard somewhere in the thread here that that form helps avoid the "flush," as well as the purported liver issues (which I realize are explained as not really an issue anyway, by Dr. Hoffer, et al). It also seems to have unique benefits.

This article describes some of the promising applications of niacinamide.

"Another Look at Clinical Uses for Niacinamide"

[link to www.vrp.com]

It also mentions how the introduction of corn into the European diet led to niacin deficiency, evident by the red, "rough skin," which is how the Italian term for rough skin--pellagra--came to be used to describe the worst manifestation of this condition. Already mentioned in the thread were the "three D's:" dermatitis, dementia and diarrhea; but "early symptoms include weakness, lassitude, anorexia, and indigestion. Mental changes include fatigue, insomnia, and apathy which precede encephalopathy, characterized by confusion, disorientation, hallucination, loss of memory and frank organic psychosis."

In the article, niacin is the form mentioned as being beneficial to lower cholesterol. For niacinamide, however, "Research has demonstrated its remarkable benefits for arthritis, asthma, diabetes, heart disease, stress, stroke and recently as an anti-aging nutrient."

The article further describes its benefits for diabetes, arthritis, stress (including possibly being beneficial for mood issues in children), as well as a very interesting portion about the anti-aging angle.
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You've got me hooked on researching niacin, now, Miffed!

...Another good article about niacinamide, by Dr. Jonathan Wright, about possible applications to Alzheimer's, suggested by recent studies:

[link to ahha.org]

"According to the abstract from the recent study: "We evaluated the efficacy of nicotinamide [another term for niacinamide]...in... mice, and found that it restored cognitive deficits associated with [Alzheimer's disease]."3 After describing the biochemical and structural improvements they observed in the mouse brain cells, the researchers concluded: "These preclinical findings suggest that oral nicotinamide may represent a safe treatment for Alzheimer's disease...""


...And this Dr. Wright has done his own research, as well.

"...But it was one of Dr. Kaufman's other observations that led me to recommend niacinamide to the most people. His much longer and more detailed 1949 book focused on treatment of degenerative arthritis with niacinamide. And I saw first-hand many, many times that this therapy was just as effective as he reported.

"Two or three years after I first read his books and started recommending niacinamide, I settled on a general dose of 1,000 milligrams taken three times a day. This timing followed Dr. Kaufman's careful clinical work, which showed that spreading out the total amount was significantly more effective than using it all at once. And-perhaps by co-incidence-this dose is actually the "human equivalent" of the amount given to the mice who recovered from the symptoms of Alzheimer's in the study mentioned above.

"Over the years, I've found that most people are able to take 1,000 milligrams of niacinamide three times daily indefinitely with no adverse effects. (I say "indefinitely" because, as Dr. Kaufman originally found, and my observations confirmed, niacinamide is a "control" but not an outright cure.) Nearly everyone reported that their arthritis symptoms started to improve in just three to four weeks. And after three to four months they'd most often disappear completely-and stay away as long as the person kept taking the vitamin. However, if they stopped taking it, the symptoms it had relieved would start to return (or worsen) just as quickly as they’d gone away-and come back as bad as ever in within four months months."


Wow!
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One more bit from the Dr. Wright article, in case people don't read the article in the link above:

"Niacinamide is available in 500 and 1,000 milligram capsules and tablets. It can be found at nearly any natural food store, compounding pharmacy....

Read the label carefully!

Although the names are quite similar, niacinamide is not niacin. Niacin can have many more side effects than niacinamide, particularly at higher quantities. Should you decide to try niacinamide for a family member suffering from Alzheimer's disease, make certain it's not niacin."
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Thank you for the great research!!! I hope you find the Niacinamide beneficial to you & can't wait for you to come back with your personal review in a few weeks (I hope grinning)

My son is taking the Niacin for schizophrenia but is still fairly heavily medicated so I won't be able to do an accurate review for quite a few months when he is weaned off the Olanzapine.

nawwww
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Anyone else trying this out with any success? Would love to hear any reviews good or bad hf
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I can fully vouch for this thread as to the Truth in it!! When I first saw this thread I figured I would try it. I've had reoccuring times of semi-depression since I was a teen ( about 17 yrs. old) A few times I was put on different anti-dression pills, they made me feel like a zomby that was almost emotionless, not a good healthy way to feel.

Anyway I started about 2 weeks ago taking 3 tablets of niacin per day as well as a B-complex pill a day, I have never felt better in my life ! I have tons of energy and my mood is on a even keel, I feel like I did when I was 15 ! It didn't take me 2 months, less than 2 weeks ! The only side effect is feeling normal for me. I must have been super deficicient in niacin because I am feeling great,, no exaguration. I've tried other suppliments and I didn't like the effects of them, but this just feels normal. Thanks so much for starting this thread OP...
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Dr Abram Hoffer talks about Orthomolecular Vitamin therapy to CURE - not 'band aid' many mental health disorders, AA patients & high cholesterol as well as the fact BIG PHARMA don't want you to know this.

In the second video he tells about his close personal friendship with 'Bill W' & their studies on the use of Niacin for AA patients.


[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]



[link to www.youtube.com]

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I started the 'flushing' type of niacin this week and wow, What a difference from the other type. I had the super flush the first time I took it, itched for hours..LOL, but it gave me tons of energy, I almost wasn't able to sleep that night..it seems I don't get the full flush experience after that 1st time...does this happen ? Or am I not taking it right ?
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I started the 'flushing' type of niacin this week and wow, What a difference from the other type. I had the super flush the first time I took it, itched for hours..LOL, but it gave me tons of energy, I almost wasn't able to sleep that night..it seems I don't get the full flush experience after that 1st time...does this happen ? Or am I not taking it right ?
 Quoting: Lion of Judah


No apparently it's common to only to 'flush' for a short time :). My son has been taking high doses since he was discharged from the mental health hospital & he has never flushed at all!!!

Admittedly he has never had any really bad side effects from any of his 'prescribed' meds either other than severe weight gain (& a bought in hospital from Clozapine - though we do believe that was from an overdose!)
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Don't miss out that Orthomolecular therapy can include several modalities, one is like another fringe medicine, Clinical Ecology, which focuses on allergies as affecting ANY organ of the body, brain (mental illness,) ears (deafness, ringing,) lungs (asthma, etc.,) and is treated by pure water fasts for several days with foods slowly introduced one at a time--also tested by the usual allergy skin & blood tests like a Cytotoxic Blood Test which mixes about 100 food samples with blood and then damage to the blood cells is graded with a microscope.

I had a friend that was able to go off meds for Manic Depression after finding out she was allergic to almost every major food group, cow milk, tomatoes, wheat, etc. and she did great on a restricted diet with goat milk, millet bread, etc.

Orthomolecular also looks at vitamin deficiencies or dependencies, some people need megavitamin therapy if they have some genetic condition where they can't absorb or synthesize certain vitamins or minerals.

And lastly there is much like the Feingold diet for hyperactive kids, where attention is paid to avoid synthetics, food additives, non-organic food full of pesticides and other chemicals, food dyes, preservatives, refined sugar, processed foods, etc. i.e. eat basic natural organic foods freshly made.

That rounds out the Orthomolecular approach, it isn't just about one particular vitamin, and certain people need more than others. One last modality that has come from this is also using certain nutraceuticals that are similar to some of the "Smart Drugs", precursors to brain chemicals or involved in metabolism, like 5-Hydroxytryptophan, SAM-e, Lecithin or herbs like Ginkgo Biloba that can affect memory or mood.

One can read up and experiment with these but it helps to get some expert consultation with an Orthomolecular doctor. I would highly recommend looking into the allergy angle, people are often allergic to foods they crave the most or have eaten continually since childhood, so things like cow mild & wheat often top the list.
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smells like scientology. large doses of niacin are toxic...can even turn you purple..which is why katie holmes wore gloves for a while when she was doing the dangerous scientology ritual called purif...
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Sounds good for those whose 'illness' lowers quality of life.
I have bipolar 1 and, frankly, I don't want a 'cure'.

Good luck to those who try this method though. hf
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I had restless leg syndrome for years until I read about niacin increasing circulation. Couple of pills a week like a charm, no more crawly feelings.


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smells like scientology. large doses of niacin are toxic...can even turn you purple..which is why katie holmes wore gloves for a while when she was doing the dangerous scientology ritual called purif...
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link?
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Don't miss out that Orthomolecular therapy can include several modalities, one is like another fringe medicine, Clinical Ecology, which focuses on allergies as affecting ANY organ of the body, brain (mental illness,) ears (deafness, ringing,) lungs (asthma, etc.,) and is treated by pure water fasts for several days with foods slowly introduced one at a time--also tested by the usual allergy skin & blood tests like a Cytotoxic Blood Test which mixes about 100 food samples with blood and then damage to the blood cells is graded with a microscope.

I had a friend that was able to go off meds for Manic Depression after finding out she was allergic to almost every major food group, cow milk, tomatoes, wheat, etc. and she did great on a restricted diet with goat milk, millet bread, etc.

Orthomolecular also looks at vitamin deficiencies or dependencies, some people need megavitamin therapy if they have some genetic condition where they can't absorb or synthesize certain vitamins or minerals.

And lastly there is much like the Feingold diet for hyperactive kids, where attention is paid to avoid synthetics, food additives, non-organic food full of pesticides and other chemicals, food dyes, preservatives, refined sugar, processed foods, etc. i.e. eat basic natural organic foods freshly made.

That rounds out the Orthomolecular approach, it isn't just about one particular vitamin, and certain people need more than others. One last modality that has come from this is also using certain nutraceuticals that are similar to some of the "Smart Drugs", precursors to brain chemicals or involved in metabolism, like 5-Hydroxytryptophan, SAM-e, Lecithin or herbs like Ginkgo Biloba that can affect memory or mood.

One can read up and experiment with these but it helps to get some expert consultation with an Orthomolecular doctor. I would highly recommend looking into the allergy angle, people are often allergic to foods they crave the most or have eaten continually since childhood, so things like cow mild & wheat often top the list.
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Thanks for that Don Juan!
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Here's somone talinkg on how Pharma keeps control:

[link to mnhopkins.blogspot.se]
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link? If you post a link or your personal experiences I will put it on my other thread :) Thread: A compilation of NATURAL products to cure DISEASE & make life healthier.
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OP, I am just now starting to take niacinamide, as I read/heard somewhere in the thread here that that form helps avoid the "flush," as well as the purported liver issues (which I realize are explained as not really an issue anyway, by Dr. Hoffer, et al). It also seems to have unique benefits.

This article describes some of the promising applications of niacinamide.

"Another Look at Clinical Uses for Niacinamide"

[link to www.vrp.com]

It also mentions how the introduction of corn into the European diet led to niacin deficiency, evident by the red, "rough skin," which is how the Italian term for rough skin--pellagra--came to be used to describe the worst manifestation of this condition. Already mentioned in the thread were the "three D's:" dermatitis, dementia and diarrhea; but "early symptoms include weakness, lassitude, anorexia, and indigestion. Mental changes include fatigue, insomnia, and apathy which precede encephalopathy, characterized by confusion, disorientation, hallucination, loss of memory and frank organic psychosis."

In the article, niacin is the form mentioned as being beneficial to lower cholesterol. For niacinamide, however, "Research has demonstrated its remarkable benefits for arthritis, asthma, diabetes, heart disease, stress, stroke and recently as an anti-aging nutrient."

The article further describes its benefits for diabetes, arthritis, stress (including possibly being beneficial for mood issues in children), as well as a very interesting portion about the anti-aging angle.
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bump for update on how it's working out for you?????
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I wonder if this works for panic attacks as well.
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I suggest drinking Propel flavored water - extremely high in Niacin.
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Thanks I'll try that!
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DO nOT VaCCINATE!!!
Period!
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I suggest drinking Propel flavored water - extremely high in Niacin.
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Thanks I'll try that!
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SHILL alert!! That drink contains FLOURiDE
Run away
Go
To a health food store and get some
b3
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Thank you for the great research!!! I hope you find the Niacinamide beneficial to you & can't wait for you to come back with your personal review in a few weeks (I hope grinning)

My son is taking the Niacin for schizophrenia but is still fairly heavily medicated so I won't be able to do an accurate review for quite a few months when he is weaned off the Olanzapine.

nawwww
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Love that puppy roosting mamma chicken! LOL

Great thread... thanks for sharing.
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Thank you for the great research!!! I hope you find the Niacinamide beneficial to you & can't wait for you to come back with your personal review in a few weeks (I hope grinning)

My son is taking the Niacin for schizophrenia but is still fairly heavily medicated so I won't be able to do an accurate review for quite a few months when he is weaned off the Olanzapine.

nawwww
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Love that puppy roosting mamma chicken! LOL

Great thread... thanks for sharing.
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hf
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As someone who grew up with a bipolar mother who exhibited many extreme manic episodes, I can say that there's something bigger than wheat grass and vitamins that is needed to combat many mental illnesses.

I also reject the idea that doctors and big pharmacies are on a witch hunt to dope up your brain for cash. My personal experience is that my doctors LOVE to use natural remedies as much as possible before altering neurotransmitters. If vitamins were the end-all cure-all, pharmacies would be busy marketing designer vitamins for high prices.

Also, you can't conduct a short 1-week to 1-month test on alcoholics and say that vitamin b-3 cured their depression or alcaholism. You have to survey months or years.

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