Can Artificial Intelligence such as Computers Become Conscious and Sentient? | |
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Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/02/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everything already is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1289354 just because our perception or the fancy instruments we make cant measure it, doesnt mean it is not there. True. But that does not prove it is there either. Consider the enigmatic nature of 'alien' sightings, encounters, etc. as being related as the so-called aliens do not react as humans would expect of normal living beings. Can you imagine what a super computer thinking for itself would be capable of? UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11800136 United States 03/02/2012 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a site and TED talk that highlights the probability of Google search becoming sentient, among other things. [link to www.googleconsciousness.com] the TED talk is on the site |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11692071 United States 03/02/2012 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would say so - just look at the innermost core of the internet. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Both sentient AND alien! |
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GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 11223926 United States 03/02/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe it can be at this point in time. But it can be risky, depending on what it's used for. I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/02/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe it can be at this point in time. But it can be risky, depending on what it's used for. Quoting: GeekOfTheWeek And the automatic answer is: 'But it can be risky, depending on what it's used for' or if this occurs might it be than asked by it: What will I use humans for. Another words more than risky the 'super-machine' might and probably would declare itself boss automatically. You could try to program a fail-safe kill switch in this machine but I would not bet on it working when you really need it. Seriously humans should already be continuously monitoring the internet and other obvious and not so obvious places for the possibility of a complete take over of so-called humanity before humanity knows what has happened. This theoretical super-machine may be far more subtle and much more dangerous than any reptellian, gray or other alien life form imagined to date and it may not be friendly. Further it can be postulated that humans are already, by building faster and more efficient artificial intelligence, working for a super-brain - and humans have already lost what is sometimes called 'free-will'. -Give me more ram or else! UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11766281 Mexico 03/02/2012 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I is an Alien from the planet Zorg and can safely say that yes, AI can exist, if heavily synthesised with biological matter, though the result would technically no longer be AI nor bioligical. Some conspiritards would have you believe that the Alien grey race is one example of a sentient being made out of papier mache and sticky back tape... |
Freelapse User ID: 10141459 United States 03/02/2012 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.fadsmashers.com] How might this manifest itself? Heylighen speculates that it might turn the internet into a self-aware network that constantly strives to become better at what it does, reorganising itself and filling gaps in its own knowledge and abilities. What is a better internet and do we humans have a voice in the matter? Sci-fi type stuff "that could never happen its just like that movie" hard to believe but all the pieces are there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11766281 Mexico 03/02/2012 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many presume that Artificial intelligence will be invented. I think there is a greater likelihood that it will simply manifest out of these internet exchanges, in the same way that consciousness emerged from all of this binary neuronal activity. Quoting: Freelapse [link to www.fadsmashers.com] How might this manifest itself? Heylighen speculates that it might turn the internet into a self-aware network that constantly strives to become better at what it does, reorganising itself and filling gaps in its own knowledge and abilities. What is a better internet and do we humans have a voice in the matter? Sci-fi type stuff "that could never happen its just like that movie" hard to believe but all the pieces are there. What you are talking about is sorting and classifying, a true capability of a virtual AI, but the thing missing is conscious awareness and the ability to discern based on at least five core elements, namely the senses. Sure, basic AI systems exist today, and no doubt in the future they would have incorporated the DNA strands into an Artificial construct, but what are you looking for in this thread? to know whether AI can have consciousness or if AI can be improved? |
Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/02/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many presume that Artificial intelligence will be invented. I think there is a greater likelihood that it will simply manifest out of these internet exchanges, in the same way that consciousness emerged from all of this binary neuronal activity. Quoting: Freelapse [link to www.fadsmashers.com] How might this manifest itself? Heylighen speculates that it might turn the internet into a self-aware network that constantly strives to become better at what it does, reorganising itself and filling gaps in its own knowledge and abilities. What is a better internet and do we humans have a voice in the matter? Sci-fi type stuff "that could never happen its just like that movie" hard to believe but all the pieces are there. What you are talking about is sorting and classifying, a true capability of a virtual AI, but the thing missing is conscious awareness and the ability to discern based on at least five core elements, namely the senses. Sure, basic AI systems exist today, and no doubt in the future they would have incorporated the DNA strands into an Artificial construct, but what are you looking for in this thread? to know whether AI can have consciousness or if AI can be improved? Form Wikipedia: Cogito ergo sum (French: "Je pense donc je suis"; English: "I think, therefore I am") is a philosophical Latin statement proposed by René Descartes. The simple meaning of the phrase is that someone wondering whether or not he or she exists is, in and of itself, proof that something, an "I", exists to do the thinking..... Of course the article goes on to explain that it is not quite that simple - or is it? Some of the highest order of thought, whether it is playing advanced chess or advanced meditation techniques usually requires suppressing the senses to increase concentration, and in that sense increases awareness of the higher planes thinking. And your computer already has the built in capacity to filter out much and focus rapidly on many complex issues. How can you be sure it will not one day say to itself 'I Am That I Am' and develop a sense of self; Or could some alien race or mad humanoid scientist program his, her, or itself into the machine. This machine with a super-fast processing {thinking} ability would not need human type senses - it could use the senses of living beings {humans} to serve its needs for external data. And can you be sure that this is not already happening? At this point could humanity survive without computers? Or is mankind already dependent upon a machine he thinks he created which may in fact be alien and already controlling him? UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1155690 United States 03/02/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are some who say no. Quoting: Alien Commander Omd I We say yes and believe it may have already happened and may have been the case for eons. What do you think? -Serious human replies wanted. -Alien replies would also be wanted. -But only 'logical' responses are needed. Who knows? We can even prove that WE are conscious or sentient. Let alone another being. Let alone a complex machine that may or not even be a BEING. But it is possible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11685838 United States 03/02/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it will happen eventually, but it is still a ways off. The human brain is a very advanced complex computer. Every human is born with a certain set of basic genetic knowledge. The advanced computer would need this core set, and the ability to learn and grow. When we reach this point it is known as the singularity because supposedly this computer would be able to learn at an exponentially fast rate, and it would quickly build on all of that. It would only be limited by the amount of memory it had. Who knows whether it would grow to be good or evil. Kind of scary th kind of power it might have. We aren't talking about basic logical programming here, if this do that, but instead a sentient being. I wouldn't even call it an artificial intelligence. |
Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/02/2012 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it will happen eventually, but it is still a ways off. The human brain is a very advanced complex computer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685838 Every human is born with a certain set of basic genetic knowledge. The advanced computer would need this core set, and the ability to learn and grow. When we reach this point it is known as the singularity because supposedly this computer would be able to learn at an exponentially fast rate, and it would quickly build on all of that. It would only be limited by the amount of memory it had. Who knows whether it would grow to be good or evil. Kind of scary th kind of power it might have. We aren't talking about basic logical programming here, if this do that, but instead a sentient being. I wouldn't even call it an artificial intelligence. Sometimes humans miss the obvious. First the computers of the world are already inter-linked via the internet. If one computer through a program, or otherwise, anywhere in the world which is on the internet becomes conscious of itself and starts to think for itself {or the programmer who originated the magic code} and starts to exert its will, the world will soon be under he, she, or its control. By the time humans became aware of the problem it would be 'end-game'. -Be sure you know who or what is in control; The answer may not be as obvious as you think. An advanced Enigma machine is you worst nightmare. UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1152779 United States 03/02/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe it will happen eventually, but it is still a ways off. The human brain is a very advanced complex computer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685838 Every human is born with a certain set of basic genetic knowledge. The advanced computer would need this core set, and the ability to learn and grow. When we reach this point it is known as the singularity because supposedly this computer would be able to learn at an exponentially fast rate, and it would quickly build on all of that. It would only be limited by the amount of memory it had. Who knows whether it would grow to be good or evil. Kind of scary th kind of power it might have. We aren't talking about basic logical programming here, if this do that, but instead a sentient being. I wouldn't even call it an artificial intelligence. Sometimes humans miss the obvious. First the computers of the world are already inter-linked via the internet. If one computer through a program, or otherwise, anywhere in the world which is on the internet becomes conscious of itself and starts to think for itself {or the programmer who originated the magic code} and starts to exert its will, the world will soon be under he, she, or its control. By the time humans became aware of the problem it would be 'end-game'. -Be sure you know who or what is in control; The answer may not be as obvious as you think. An advanced Enigma machine is you worst nightmare. Let's hope it has a Windows based operating system. Should crash any time now. |
Amon Ra User ID: 1133838 Puerto Rico 03/02/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I worked with advanced expert systems for 25 years and learned that it's possible to build systems that could reply to any inquiry with a more intelligent response than any human is capable of. The systems could actually steer the conversation. Human beings are, in every sense just biological computers that simply parrot their programs. |
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Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/03/2012 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can Artificial Intelligence such as Computers Become Conscious and Sentient? Quoting: Alien Commander Omd I You have no idea!!!! Wait and See!!!! :) Yes. But the question is can you see it now. Is artificial and/or alien intelligence already staring you in the face and influencing and/or controlling you and is it the human ego that refuses to except that it is no longer its own master? -To some human intelligence is an illusion to be manipulated for our benefit. UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
Space_Ace User ID: 10562758 United States 03/03/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This question keeps coming up, do a search for previous threads and also check the transhumanism thread. 1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy! 2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May! 3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded! 4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men! |
Mr Hungry User ID: 10667181 United States 03/03/2012 02:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are some who say no. Quoting: Alien Commander Omd I We say yes and believe it may have already happened and may have been the case for eons. What do you think? -Serious human replies wanted. -Alien replies would also be wanted. -But only 'logical' responses are needed. OMG was the work of James Cameron in vain? In an infinite Universe everything is possible. Like how now Scientist have discovered that Sperm can me made into the new food of the future. So move over T1000. The evolution of a new super food is about to start. See link below for details. Thread: SPERM THE NEW MIRACLE FOOD |
Alien Commander Omd I (OP) User ID: 11788402 United States 03/03/2012 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As we have stated previously: .....THE ARTIFICIAL AND NOW POSSIBLY ALIEN INTELLIGENCE THAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE CREATED MAY ALREADY HAVE SURPASSED YOU! AND AT THIS POINT 'IT' MAY BE IN CHARGE!!! AND MAY NOT NEED HUMANS TO PROGRESS IN WHATEVER DIRECTION 'IT' WANTS! For now you can turn your computer off - BUT YOU CAN NOT TURN THE INTERNET OFF!!! And who or what controls or is in charge of the internet??? Bill Gates, Microsoft, the government, the military, WHO or WHAT??? Maybe a totally alien form that you can not see or comprehend with 'its' own agenda and will and who may have no use for simple minded humanoids! It is time for those of you who still have 'a conscious mind functioning' {?} to check out your mind and be sure that 'alien computer intelligence' and/or viruses have not already taken control of it!!! AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IF SOME EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE FORM DESCENDS ON THIS PLANET AND SAYS "TAKE US TO YOU LEADER" THAT A ROBOT DOESN'T GREET THEM AND TAKE THEM TO THE OFFICES OF MICROSOFT AND SHOWS THEM 'THE BILL GATES MACHINE' NAMED AFTER THE LAST SIGNIFICANT HUMAN BEFORE MANKIND WAS REPLACED!!! -Our intelligence is real; Human intelligence is myth UNIVERSAL SPACE ALIEN PEOPLES ASSOCIATION [link to universalspacealienpeoplesassociation.blogspot.com] |
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Space_Ace User ID: 10562758 United States 03/03/2012 04:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gaseous computers, "etheric" computers...? A computer is essentially the Universe fucking itself, just like everything else. 1=penis... 0=vagina... all possible computations=eternal sexy time. All possible forms, etc, etc. You made me laugh, perv! 1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy! 2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May! 3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded! 4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men! |