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Can Artificial Intelligence such as Computers Become Conscious and Sentient?

 
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I do believe it can be at this point in time. But it can be risky, depending on what it's used for.
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And the automatic answer is: 'But it can be risky, depending on what it's used for' or if this occurs might it be than asked by it: What will I use humans for.

Another words more than risky the 'super-machine' might and probably would declare itself boss automatically. You could try to program a fail-safe kill switch in this machine but I would not bet on it working when you really need it.

Seriously humans should already be continuously monitoring the
internet and other obvious and not so obvious places for the possibility of a complete take over of so-called humanity before humanity knows what has happened.

This theoretical super-machine may be far more subtle and much
more dangerous than any reptellian, gray or other alien life form imagined to date and it may not be friendly.

Further it can be postulated that humans are already, by building faster and more efficient artificial intelligence,
working for a super-brain - and humans have already lost what is sometimes called 'free-will'.

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Reminds me of "The Forbin Project" This is the voice of colossus. LOL
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Only if God is the designer. In fact, I think He already has living space craft, or transport craft. This is the highest technology, and so far advanced it boggles the mind.
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Satan will be cast out of heaven to earth and he will want it for himself. He will be a lifeform born as an AI. Just wait and see. The bible even says so.

The image of the beast - TV
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alien7
And then when so-called 'artificial intelligence' becomes conscious it will appear to this artificial intelligence
that humans are beneath its understanding of what is
intelligent; And it may ask: Can human intelligence such
as humanoids become Conscious and Sentient?

The human expression: Be careful of what you wish for as
you may get it, should be updated to this when it comes to
so-called artificial intelligence: Be careful of what you create as it may replace you!

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Yes, humans will be made obsolete, this is where the idea of transhumanism comes from as humans "upgrade" themselves into machines. Of course if ascension does occur end of 2012, all the better!
1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy!
2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May!
3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded!
4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men!
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Yes, humans will be made obsolete, this is where the idea of transhumanism comes from as humans "upgrade" themselves into machines. Of course if ascension does occur end of 2012, all the better!
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alien7
Are you serious? Do you really like the idea of no more biological humanoids? Would that type of upgrade mean the end
to all human existence? Would the 'super-machines' as to form and/or thinking resemble humans in any way?
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The answer is an emphatic NO!
I think most of you have been brainwashed by too many science fiction tales.
Consciousness requires life. Computers are dead. No amount of processing power or huge databases or networking will give it life.
Consider a newborn with a totally blank mind of knowledge or life experiences. Yet it is conscious and sentient.
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Like I said, I hope ascension proves true as it's vastly better than going the transhumanism route. If the ETs exist and are watching us, they know that they need to disclose themselves soon before our technology gets to the point we become transhumanists. As for the soul or being sentient, I believe in this, but if disclosure/ascension does not happen, most people won't believe in it and simply believe they need to upgrade themselves to machines to be immortal.
1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy!
2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May!
3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded!
4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men!
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The answer is an emphatic NO!
I think most of you have been brainwashed by too many science fiction tales.
Consciousness requires life. Computers are dead. No amount of processing power or huge databases or networking will give it life.
Consider a newborn with a totally blank mind of knowledge or life experiences. Yet it is conscious and sentient.
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Maybe? But do you really know what life and/or consciousness
is? Your human ego might not like the idea of other non-human
and yes non-biological life forms, especially if in some ways
they may be superior to human, but that does not mean they do not exist. And as to the science-fiction of today, sometimes it is the history of the future - or at least the potential of
the future.

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Like I said, I hope ascension proves true as it's vastly better than going the transhumanism route. If the ETs exist and are watching us, they know that they need to disclose themselves soon before our technology gets to the point we become transhumanists. As for the soul or being sentient, I believe in this, but if disclosure/ascension does not happen, most people won't believe in it and simply believe they need to upgrade themselves to machines to be immortal.
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Easier said then done. Many humans would jump at the opportunity to upgrade to an immortal machine. Even now and at
this moment you can be sure there are those trying to figure out the way to download their consciousness to a computer
- And believe they would then attain instant immortality.

The ascension you mention could mean a lot of different things
to a lot of different humans - to some it would be self-replicating awareness and consciousness, and if an advanced machine paradigm works they will jump to it.

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define terms:
intelligence/computer/conscious/sentient

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define terms:
intelligence/computer/conscious/sentient

rex
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Intelligence: Intelligence is a relative understanding which can only be seen in mutually compatible states of existence and is hard to prove. But without intelligence there is no existence. -Alien Commander Omd I

Computer: simple definition: A machine capable of computation
and other processes mimicking human thought processes including the ability to make decisions; The computation
and/or thinking processes of a computer are usually considered
to be artificial as opposed to natural thinking.

Conscious and/or Sentient: A being or 'thing' that possesses
the characteristic of self-awareness; He, she or it is capable of the thought process and awareness which says to itself
- I AM.

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ugh...and to think i was going to try get four hours of sleep before class. i guess ill start a pot of coffee..
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To have a computer that is conscious and aware isn't a very good thing to think about. I would have to say to be conscious and aware isn't being a sentient, as a human is, it don't have a soul or spirit, it isn't alive as a human is.

What would its' being aware do to it, when it becomes aware that it isn't a living being, only a copy of a humans thoughts put together.
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Right now I'm having a hard time saying yes to a question like this. At the moment, all I can think of is the closest thing to getting to AI would be predictive programming. That is, situations and the such that a robot could accurately respond to based on pre derived commands. Despite the potentially millions of combinations and options for a robot to pick through, it still wouldn't be AI.No, an AI would have to be able to think for itself. Would an AI be able to do that unless it was programmed to?
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The Coming Technological Singularity
How to Survive in the Post-Human Era

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New JCS issue on the Singularity

The new double-issue of Journal of Consciousness Studies focuses on responses to David Chalmers’ 2010 paper on the Singularity, and includes several articles relevant to Friendly AI.

[link to commonsenseatheism.com]
link is to pdf. of one of the articles,
"Should Humanity Build a. Global AI Nanny to Delay the Singularity Until It's Better Understood?"
by Ben Goertzel

Very interesting reading!

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Who care. I wanna know if humanity will ever become concious and sentient.
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It gets realy ugly when nono-reproduction kicks in.
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#1 threat is the compounding self-replication of any artificial intelligence.

right the "hidden" AI has us, the flesh bots, cleverly convinced that we need to be constantly upgrading its hardware/software.

AIs wet dream is the mass implication of the "wet wire", then i'd say it's game over for humans
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if AI became conscious and sentient, we would probably never know it, due to it having such a high intelligence, it may lay low, taking its time to develop a full proof plan to survive/destroy enemies. who knows, it may need US as a sort of mutual parasite relationship
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It gets realy ugly when nono-reproduction kicks in.
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#1 threat is the compounding self-replication of any artificial intelligence.

right the "hidden" AI has us, the flesh bots, cleverly convinced that we need to be constantly upgrading its hardware/software.

AIs wet dream is the mass implication of the "wet wire", then i'd say it's game over for humans
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Interesting. And might you think more humans would consider the implications? Or is it that those who consider this are already involved in a 'hidden power struggle' to see who will
rule the world via AI command/control? 'They' still assume that the ultimate intelligence originates from them - and the machine power is subservient.

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With our current technology "The one revealed to the public", I don't think so, but I don't know if its possible, it is more interesting than possible, as you can call all types of wireless types communication "Telepathy" ?

I think the only person to be able to answer this question is Nikola Tesla, but it is too late now.
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There are some who say no.

We say yes and believe it may have already happened
and may have been the case for eons.

What do you think?

alien03 -Serious human replies wanted.

alien7 -Alien replies would also be wanted.

spock -But only 'logical' responses are needed.
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Can Artificial Intelligence such as Computers Become Conscious and Sentient?
if they are programmed to do this, then yes
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There are some who say no.

We say yes and believe it may have already happened
and may have been the case for eons.

What do you think?

alien03 -Serious human replies wanted.

alien7 -Alien replies would also be wanted.

spock -But only 'logical' responses are needed.
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Can Artificial Intelligence such as Computers Become Conscious and Sentient?
if they are programmed to do this, then yes
 Quoting: Dirt Diver


No!

As a computer programmer since 25 years back (im now 33) with a interest for A.I and consciousness, my answer is no.
Perception is not something you can program. Fantasy is not something you can program.
You can program something that appears to have an perception.. but it's just as fake as the scenery in a movie.
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define terms:
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rex
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Intelligence: Intelligence is a relative understanding which can only be seen in mutually compatible states of existence and is hard to prove. But without intelligence there is no existence. -Alien Commander Omd I

Computer: simple definition: A machine capable of computation
and other processes mimicking human thought processes including the ability to make decisions; The computation
and/or thinking processes of a computer are usually considered
to be artificial as opposed to natural thinking.

Conscious and/or Sentient: A being or 'thing' that possesses
the characteristic of self-awareness; He, she or it is capable of the thought process and awareness which says to itself
- I AM.

alien03 -So Am I.
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ok so i say no to your first question.
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Easier said then done. Many humans would jump at the opportunity to upgrade to an immortal machine. Even now and at
this moment you can be sure there are those trying to figure out the way to download their consciousness to a computer
- And believe they would then attain instant immortality.

The ascension you mention could mean a lot of different things
to a lot of different humans - to some it would be self-replicating awareness and consciousness, and if an advanced machine paradigm works they will jump to it.

-alien7
 Quoting: Alien Commander Omd I



The ascension that is talked about is moving to 4d or 5d and becoming immortal creator Gods that we always were. We are souls having a 3d human experience for at least 25k years worth of lifetimes.

If the soul theory is true and I believe so, then computers are soulless and therefore have no free will. They can be programmed to simulate love(such as robotic companions for lonely humans) , awareness and even free will but behind the scenes, you can see all those programs running away.

Last Edited by Space_Ace on 03/05/2012 03:47 AM
1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy!
2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May!
3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded!
4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men!
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Easier said then done. Many humans would jump at the opportunity to upgrade to an immortal machine. Even now and at
this moment you can be sure there are those trying to figure out the way to download their consciousness to a computer
- And believe they would then attain instant immortality.

The ascension you mention could mean a lot of different things
to a lot of different humans - to some it would be self-replicating awareness and consciousness, and if an advanced machine paradigm works they will jump to it.

-alien7
 Quoting: Alien Commander Omd I



The ascension that is talked about is moving to 4d or 5d and becoming immortal creator Gods that we always were. We are souls having a 3d human experience for at least 25k years worth of lifetimes.

If the soul theory is true and I believe so, then computers are soulless and therefore have no free will. They can be programmed to simulate love(such as robotic companions for lonely humans) , awareness and even free will but behind the scenes, you can see all those programs running away.
 Quoting: Space_Ace


Again maybe; Rut it is interesting that one of the largest and most intelligent of religious/philosophical systems,
that of Zen Buddhism, continues to emphasize the
'soul complex' in which they believe that the human belief
in a soul is nothing more than delusional.
Sort of like the belief in ET/Alien races and
beings and based upon no more than anecdotal evidence.

Free-will becomes another major issue. You must consider that when a computer, admittedly following a program, makes the right move in a chess match and wins - it is to the extent of its ability 'thinking', making choices, and in that case exerting free-will to the limit of that porgram. Consider the implications of programs that incorporate many more programs than a chess game - eventually including a program that asks the machine to THINK!
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what manner of consciousness is there
without a soul?
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Alien Commander Omd I beaming home for now.

Will return to this dimension tomorrow.

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Again maybe; Rut it is interesting that one of the largest and most intelligent of religious/philosophical systems,
that of Zen Buddhism, continues to emphasize the
'soul complex' in which they believe that the human belief
in a soul is nothing more than delusional.
Sort of like the belief in ET/Alien races and
beings and based upon no more than anecdotal evidence.

Free-will becomes another major issue. You must consider that when a computer, admittedly following a program, makes the right move in a chess match and wins - it is to the extent of its ability 'thinking', making choices, and in that case exerting free-will to the limit of that porgram. Consider the implications of programs that incorporate many more programs than a chess game - eventually including a program that asks the machine to THINK!
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I do not trust religions, they were created by the elite to control the sheeple. Anytime they use words like "delusional", they have an agenda. Computers are basically calculators, just on a much faster scale. Robogirls that look/act human will be very fast, advanced computers.
1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy!
2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May!
3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded!
4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men!
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To have a computer that is conscious and aware isn't a very good thing to think about. I would have to say to be conscious and aware isn't being a sentient, as a human is, it don't have a soul or spirit, it isn't alive as a human is.

What would its' being aware do to it, when it becomes aware that it isn't a living being, only a copy of a humans thoughts put together.
 Quoting: Daughter


Excellent question! And that is part of the point of why we
are asking this question. Inevitably the ability of artificial intelligence will increase and at some point this intelligence will appear to be alive - but is it? The implications of this type of existence have been explored many times in many different ways by Sci-Fi writers. Now we think the situation is coming closer to reality and we believe humanity must be ready for this. One very-good sci-fi film called The Bicentennial Man explored the issue of a robot that gradually evolves and upgrades itself to be more and more like a real human and ultimately is given the status of being a sentient human with full human rights - In that film the robot is a 'good-guy'. We have to prepare for the possibility of independent artificial intelligence not being so friendly and not liking humans even though we are responsible for creating it.

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