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So hopefully Apollo Illuminati will pipe in here. I've decided to look into the concept of the bible as Astrology. I think it's a massive rabbit hole, and although I'm deeply intimidated by it (since I think it's so extensive), I've decided to dive right in.

For now, I'll mention the ones that I know about already (most of them are obvious), and go from there:

12 disciples = zodiac signs

This one is interesting with the 'resurrection' of Opheuchis... since that then adds the virgo mary to the pile, and you have 13!

The son = the Sun

Another obvious one, yet it wouldn't hold up all by itself. However, there are various things that begin to lend credence to this, as we'll get into.

The cross = Northern Cross? (Southern? I don't recall, lol)

The Sun dies on the 'cross' constellation, right around the time that the 'son' is supposed to have died on the cross.

The water bearer = end of the age

The worship of the 'son' will end at the end of the piscean age... when "you see a man go into the temple bearing a pitcher of water", then you will know it is the end of the age and the return of the 'sun' will begin.

-- Note: This may actually have more bearing than we realize. I will look into tomorrow, but there's now some evidence that we're actually a binary star system with Sirius, and it has 'turned' and is coming back towards us. I'll try to find the article I read about this. Something about it no longer being a red star, but now a blue star (or vice versa).




Anyway, I will look more into this tomorrow. But if anyone wants to add to the ways in which the bible's stories correlate to Astrology, I thank you ahead of time.

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?The Three wise men are the stars of Orion's belt
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I might be interested to chime in. After all, I have over 30 years studied Astrology. A fellow Astrologer here in the Southwest, well known amongst the true professionals, has been lecturing on Astrology in the Bible for over 15 years and I might get him over to join in. He and I have had many dicussions on the subject.

There numerous astrological references to site in genesis, OT/NT, Enoch, etc. Topics that go way deeper than what you might typically find here on GLP cover more than just the copy-and-paste type poster.
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OP take the time to watch the videos below. They are fairly long but it will save you a lot of time overall. They go into everything in extreme detail.


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Bump and do watch the videos above, they contain excellent information on the subject.
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A rare Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occured at the time around the birth of "Jesus" 3 times in fact during the year he was born. This was one of the undeniable signs that he would of been born under. Buddah came also under this planetary lineup in 63 BC which also occured 40 years later when he became "enlightened". Coincidence perhaps?

Jesus is thought to be a Capricorn, born on Christmas Day Not so; xmas was in ancient times a pagan holiday to celebrate the winter solstice. The true actual birthchart is contested as to exact day, but many believe it was in the year 7 BC. Some believe he was a Pisces. the PJs give different days in August and that would make him a Leo. I agree with that.

Then there are astronomical considerations. Precession in the Age of Pisces played a huge role in symbols. For instance the christian fish symbol. Baptised by water (Pisces a water sign).

Then you have the Magi who were of course astrologer-astronomers. They were "told" of the coming and sought him out. Another story just in this topic.

Finally, some famous quotes speak to many other topics as well:

JOB 38-31--“Canst thou bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades or loose the bands of Orion?".

AMOS 5:8--"Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into morning, and maketh day dark with night: that calleth forth the waters of the sea, and pour them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name!"

Clearly, Pleiades and Orion factor into the story. That leads further to discussion on the Maya (one of the 7 sisters) long count end times prophecy.

Your right, OP, lots of huge topics. Where do you want to take this?

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Three wise men = three wisemen? :shrug:
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Ah yes, the Orion's belt connection with the three wise men.

Then there is the Seven connection (seven sisters?):

Revelation... There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. The number 7 is used over 700 times in the bible...
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A rare Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occured at the time around the birth of "Jesus" 3 times in fact during the year he was born. This was one of the undeniable signs that he would of been born under. Buddah came also under this planetary lineup in 63 BC which also occured 40 years later when he became "enlightened". Coincidence perhaps?

Jesus is thought to be a Capricorn, born on Christmas Day Not so; xmas was in ancient times a pagan holiday to celebrate the winter solstice. The true actual birthchart is contested as to exact day, but many believe it was in the year 7 BC. Some believe he was a Pisces. the PJs give different days in August and that would make him a Leo. I agree with that.

Then there are astronomical considerations. Precession in the Age of Pisces played a huge role in symbols. For instance the christian fish symbol. Baptised by water (Pisces a water sign).

Then you have the Magi who were of course astrologer-astronomers. They were "told" of the coming and sought him out. Another story just in this topic.

Finally, some famous quotes speak to many other topics as well:

JOB 38-31--“Canst thou bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades or loose the bands of Orion?".

AMOS 5:8--"Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into morning, and maketh day dark with night: that calleth forth the waters of the sea, and pour them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name!"

Clearly, Pleiades and Orion factor into the story. That leads further to discussion on the Maya (one of the 7 sisters) long count end times prophecy.

Your right, OP, lots of huge topics. Where do you want to take this?
 Quoting: Jamesbo


I really would like to make what might be considered a 'comprehensive' list of Astrological connections in the bible. I don't know what the ultimate point is, but I think it connects to the whole business with the "bible code" stuff...

I think the stories are untrue, but that the bible is a spell. The significant amounts of Astrology in it indicate some kind of ulterior motive in it, and perhaps if we can locate and understand these connections, we will learn what it's really saying (which is not what it appears on the surface).
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Three wise men = three wisemen? :shrug:
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One of the Three wise men came from Ethiopia/Sheba.

Pslam 72

10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts.

17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.
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The bull calf that the Hebrews made in the desert. According to the timeline, if it is accurate, this would be the end of the Taurus Dominance in the Procession of the Equinoxes.

The destruction of the golden bull ended that dominance. Then the ushering in of Pisces, Jesus-the-fish. The sign of the END OF THE AGE will be the water bearer entering the door of the temple (Aquarius).
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The three wise men where magicans from, greece persia and Ethiopia.
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I wonder what star the belt of Orion follows? Maybe one of our resident astrologists can tell us. What direction do they 'follow' this star across the sky?
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I wonder if the magical items are linked to astrology as well. Like the spear and crown of thorns, chalice, platter, ect...
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The bible itself may well admit to its own Astrology:

Psalm 19

1The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2Day unto day [it] uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,


"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25


"And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as SIGNS to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth." And it was so." (Gen. 1:14-15)

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I wonder what star the belt of Orion follows? Maybe one of our resident astrologists can tell us. What direction do they 'follow' this star across the sky?
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I'm a novice at star watching, but I went to a planetarium recently and have a star map for march 2012

southeast of orion is sirius, east of orion is canis minor(procyon), northeast of orion is gemini, north of orion is taurus, and nothing is directly west on the map
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Don't forget the 12 tribes as well. Which really would be 13 if you counted the female sister.
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So hopefully Apollo Illuminati will pipe in here. I've decided to look into the concept of the bible as Astrology. I think it's a massive rabbit hole, and although I'm deeply intimidated by it (since I think it's so extensive), I've decided to dive right in.

For now, I'll mention the ones that I know about already (most of them are obvious), and go from there:

12 disciples = zodiac signs

This one is interesting with the 'resurrection' of Opheuchis... since that then adds the virgo mary to the pile, and you have 13!

The son = the Sun

Another obvious one, yet it wouldn't hold up all by itself. However, there are various things that begin to lend credence to this, as we'll get into.

The cross = Northern Cross? (Southern? I don't recall, lol)

The Sun dies on the 'cross' constellation, right around the time that the 'son' is supposed to have died on the cross.

The water bearer = end of the age

The worship of the 'son' will end at the end of the piscean age... when "you see a man go into the temple bearing a pitcher of water", then you will know it is the end of the age and the return of the 'sun' will begin.

-- Note: This may actually have more bearing than we realize. I will look into tomorrow, but there's now some evidence that we're actually a binary star system with Sirius, and it has 'turned' and is coming back towards us. I'll try to find the article I read about this. Something about it no longer being a red star, but now a blue star (or vice versa).




Anyway, I will look more into this tomorrow. But if anyone wants to add to the ways in which the bible's stories correlate to Astrology, I thank you ahead of time.
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yet another bible thread. bibletards rejoice.
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Its a Cosmic rebellion!

When certain aspect happen portals open. They dont call them celestial bodies for nothing.



Genesis 6

1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
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The bible itself may well admit to its own Astrology:

Psalm 19

1The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2Day unto day [it] uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,


"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25
 Quoting: Sandi_T


hf

God gave the three wise/magican men from the east a vision.
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I wonder what star the belt of Orion follows? Maybe one of our resident astrologists can tell us. What direction do they 'follow' this star across the sky?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I'm a novice at star watching, but I went to a planetarium recently and have a star map for march 2012

southeast of orion is sirius, east of orion is canis minor(procyon), northeast of orion is gemini, north of orion is taurus, and nothing is directly west on the map
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The 'wise men' supposedly came from the East. Is Orion visible in that area?

The problem is that they arrived at Herod's castle, and supposedly switched directions to go towards Bethlehem.

I really wish I knew Astrology/ astronomy better. As I understand it, there are stars that appear to 'change direction' when they reach the horizon. Maybe someone can shed light on a star that would have been appearing to 'change direction' around that time. Maybe even a planet going into a retrograde?
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Job 4:18
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:


Genesis 28:12
And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
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Don't forget the 12 tribes as well. Which really would be 13 if you counted the female sister.
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Yes. It is interesting that as we approach the end of the age, we are being given BACK the additional zodiac symbol...

The moon's cycles aren't 12 per year, but 13.

The Mary Magdelene subject is one I wish to delve into deeper, as well... there's the virgo/virgin that we've already been given all along. The 12 names of the disciples are never given, except for a few.

The virgin has always been a part of the mythos, but the Crone/mother is frequently ignored (except by catholics--except they still view her as the virgin mother, not the crone).

Let me see if I can find the crone concept astrologically, will be back with that if I find it. And I'm going to look more closely at Opheuchus.
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The processions as mentioned repeatedly in the bible as 'ages'. Often mis-translated as 'time/times':

And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the AGE. (Matt. 28:20)

Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this AGE or in the AGE to come. (Matt. 12:32)

The harvest is the end of the AGE, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the AGE. (Matt. 13:39-40)

What will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the AGE? (Matt. 24:3)

No one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in this AGE and, in the AGE to come, eternal life. (Luke 18:29-30)

We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this AGE or of the rulers of this AGE ... None of the rulers of this AGE understood it. (1 Cor. 3:6-8)

These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the AGES has come. (1 Cor. 10:11)

"[Christ was raised] far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present AGE but also in the one to come. (Eph. 1:21)

... who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming AGE. (Heb. 6:5)

Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the AGE of the ages. (Heb. 9:26)

Just and true are your ways, King of the AGES. (Rev. 15:3)
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