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Apollo, what is the 'pit' that the dragon is cast down into? Is there an astrological reference to it?

I see a lot of astrological symbology in the Revelation, the more that I look into it.

Faces like SCORPIONS, the head of the LION, the dividing of the FISH.

I know that we're intended to take all of these things as coincidence, but it all adds up far too well, IMO.

Additionally, all the references to the "bright and morning star". With these being used for both the bad guy and the good guy, there has to be another meaning behind it. Looking at the references without the hype, there is definite astrological references there.

However, I say that they are different references. One to venus, and one to the sun.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi, heres the answer !

PRINCE of The ABYSS, 9:11 and the Bottomless Pit. (Part two in a Series) by Apollo

BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

PART ONE is here.
Thread: SUPER CONJUNCTION ...Morning of May 20th, then Evening Eclipse. Nibiru the Destroyer King !!!!!! The Inner Mystery Now Revealed

This is a Interlude introduction to the Bible passage:

In Revelation we are introduced to Apollyon, who has the key to the bottomless pit. Apollymi can be found in James 4:12 which mentions the Lawgiver and the judge. ONE THERE IS A LAWGIVER AND JUDGE, he who is able to save and to destroy.

Apollyon is translated as "destroyer." Its Hebrew version being Abaddon. The Abyss to which he holds the key is given " "abussos" for the bottomless pit in Greek, it still just refers to bottomless pit, or deep pit,


We will need comparisons in Hebrew to de mystify this passage,

This one of my favorites , first things I learned about Abussos.



Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'


(The beginning of the Eighth Day)


Springs of the Great Deep - 2nd month 17th day in Noah’s 600th year.
Genesis 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep "Tehom" broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."


Bottomless pit is simply the ocean. (Exodus 20:4; Deut 5:8).
He is the beast that rises from the ocean.



REVELATION 11:7 When they [the two witnesses] have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up out of the Abyss will make war with them, and overcome them and kill them. (NASU)


REVELATION 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is to ascend from the bottomless pit and go to perdition . . . (RSV)


REVELATION 13:1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea . . . (NKJV)


Revelation 11:7 and 17:8 are referring to Abaddon as the "beast" who will ascend from the "bottomless pit." What we Heb. tehom, 'the primeval ocean' (Gen. 1:2; Ps. 24:2; etc.) as 'abyss'"
There is a movie called, THE ABYSS, by James Cameron who was noted to work on the Lost Tomb of Jesus side by side with Israeli Antiquities.

:911apollyon:


Revelations
Chapter 9



9:11 The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from the sky which had fallen to the earth. The key to the pit of the abyss was given to him.

9:2 He opened the pit of the abyss, and smoke went up out of the pit, like the smoke from a burning furnace. The sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke from the pit.

9:3 Then out of the smoke came forth locusts on the earth, and power was given to them, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

9:4 They were told that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only those people who don't have God's seal on their foreheads.

9:5 They were given power not to kill them, but to torment them for five months. Their torment was like the torment of a scorpion, when it strikes a person.

9:6 In those days people will seek death, and will in no way find it. They will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

9:7 The shapes of the locusts were like horses prepared for war. On their heads were something like golden crowns, and their faces were like people's faces.

9:8 They had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like those of lions.

9:9 They had breastplates, like breastplates of iron. The sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots, or of many horses rushing to war.

9:10 They have tails like those of scorpions, and stings. In their tails they have power to harm men for five months.

9:11 They have over them as king the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is "Abaddon," but in Greek, he has the name "Apollyon."



QOUTE:

Apollyon/Abbadon is based on Kalki (the Destroyer). He rides on a white horse and will destroy all the evil-doers and usher in the Golden Age.

This (Hinduism) preceeds the Bible by thousands of years. The Bible is just a collection of plagiarized religions.


Yes, Apollyon is the rider of the White Horse

Qoute:

Contrary to what some christians think, Abaddon/Apollyon is an Archangel of God. This is why he harms/binds Satan and all those "who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads".


:faithfultrue:


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SEA BEAST. 2012 Year of the BLACK WATER DRAGON

GRECO ROMAN BEAST


Why Neptune is the beast from the Sea. (Charts and Proof Below) Prophecy of the Merovinginians. !



On January 23, 2012, (New Moon in Aquarius: Western Zodiac) We started the year of the Black "WATER" Dragon in Chinese zodiac, This is especially interesting for readers of revelation who read that a powerful Beast King will arise from the sea.



Note from Apollo: All the signs are here, especially the prophecy of King Neptune. It being the Year of the Dragon in Chinese New Year. I'm not implying that the Anti Christ is Chinese nor is the Chinese involved in any morbid prophecy. You can take the theories at your own discretian and interpretation. The Chinese see the Dragon as a sign of luck and power.


Then on February 21, 2012 in the Western Zodiac we are in for a treat !! Neptune will conjunct the Sun after it moves back into Pisces on February 3, 2012

This will launch more than a decade of Neptune in Piscean power up until the year 2025.

Is this the Popes Hat or Mitre? The Fish hat of the Dogons who claim lineage from Sirius?



:pisceancrown2:


:popehat:




Qoute: The Meroveus or Merovingian Bloodlines of ancient france whos bloodlines extend to Royal England an Scotland are claimed to have been spawned from a Two fathers and One mother who swam out to sea whilst bearing child and came back impregnated with a reptilian sea beast child.

From [link to www.watch.pair.com]

“Meroveus” derives from the French words “mer” meaning “sea” and “vere” meaning “werewolf” or “dragon.” The book of Revelation informs us the dragon is “the Devil, and Satan”:

The term “Merovingian” is said to derive from Merovee who was King of the Franks from 447-458 A.D. Despite recent claims that the Merovingian Franks were sired by Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene, and are therefore “divine,” …….



According to the legend, as explained in Bloodline of the Holy Grail, Merovee had two fathers, King Clodion and a strange “beast of the sea.”

:seabeast:



" The Bistea Neptunis was worshipped in classical antiquity as the Roman god, Neptune, and as Poseidon in Greek mythology. Neptune was the mythological god of the sea who is said to have founded Atlantis, which is the pagan version of the pre-flood civilization which God judged in Genesis 7. Revelation 13:1, which identifies the Antichrist systen as “the beast that rises out of the sea,” becomes crystal clear upon discovery that a demonic bloodline which exists today that was originally sired by a mysterious “sea beast”—the Bistea Neptunis."





In Revelation 13 We are introduced to the beast that rises from the sea.
1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (Sea Goat. Neptune, Leviathan. Typhon Cthulhu). , rise up out of the sea, having seven heads .

PIcture of TYPHON with One main head but many appendages.


:typhonis:


(Seven heads are often referred to the seven world powers. Egypt, Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, Rome , England and then America. America as the last world power ) It can also refer to religions, Seven main religions of the world are
Christianity, Catholicism. Judaism, Islam, Hindu, Buddhism and New Age (Wiccan and Luciferi and Others)
In mystic powers, this Sea Beast will derive support from the Seven Main Religions and the Seven Main Continents and the Seven Main World Powers.
Where will he arise?



Here is a commenter:
Qoute: All that is okay except one thing: its not the European Union that is divided but the whole planet in 2 hemispheres: east & west with 10 region blocs. EU is NOT the new roman empire. USA is the new Roman Empire. The Antichrist will EMERGE from USA not from Europe. He will be a Danite Prince of European Descendancy with citizenship of USA out of the Bilderberg Group.

Cont: and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Recall that ten main degrees of the Illuminati refers to the Initiations of the planets and bodies and stars

Sun, Moon,Mercury, Venus, Mars. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus , Neptune and Pluto are main spiritual intiations. In ancient history, horns stood for light streaming from the head. And the ten horns could mean ten initations upon the Earth initiate.

In latin vulgate they used the word Cornus, Which we derive cornucopia from.



2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard,(strong) and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Rex Quondam Rex Futurus, Son of a different Slave Girl) , and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Mars in leo/virgo): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.


:angelsea23:

Qoute by good news Christian Ministry: The monster these seven heads belong to is Satan, the dragon, the creature Babylon is shown to ride. (Rv.17:3). Often described in prophetic passages as the 'sea monster' (or Leviathon), this dragon is the ruler of the lower sea.


Revelation 17:9-10, a much clearer picture emerges: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings..

Daniel 7:24 “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.”.

The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. …The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire (Revelation 17:3-16).


I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. … When he opened the Abyss, … out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions … They had tails and stings like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months. They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon (Revelation 9:1-3, 10-11).


Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men (Revelation 13:11-13).










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Apollo, what is the 'pit' that the dragon is cast down into? Is there an astrological reference to it?

I see a lot of astrological symbology in the Revelation, the more that I look into it.

Faces like SCORPIONS, the head of the LION, the dividing of the FISH.

I know that we're intended to take all of these things as coincidence, but it all adds up far too well, IMO.

Additionally, all the references to the "bright and morning star". With these being used for both the bad guy and the good guy, there has to be another meaning behind it. Looking at the references without the hype, there is definite astrological references there.

However, I say that they are different references. One to venus, and one to the sun.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


In the Esoteric the True morning Star is the SUN. We refer to the Prodigal Son of Lucifer as Venus, due to her 8 year transits around the Sun, and her rising and falling under the horizon which tells the tale of Inanna going down to the underworld.

Venus has other Initiatory stories regarding wheat and honey which is not told in the public but taught in Secret Societies.

The Temple of Solomon was a observatory to Venus transits, cause some Venus transits foretold the rise of Kings and Kingdoms and special births.

Mars , Jupter, and Saturn are also Morning and Evening stars.
Saturn is considered to be the first initation of the Initiate in the months of November and December which is the alignment with the Galactic Center in Sagitarius and the birthday of Sol Invictus.
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Secrets of Masonic Astrology
and the Bright Morning star

Properties of the Bright morning star were measured by scientific instrurments and its electromagnetic pulses were measured in the neurons and intelligence of the developing brain

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Jesus as the Sun God
Catholicism, based on Mithraic Sun God rites. often painted Jesus with his Sun Halo
The Wafer of Communion is the Sun that grows the fields of wheat, and the Wine that is his blood is the grapes grown and ripened in the Sun.





:waferhost::popesun::waferchalice::sacredheart:

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you are a capi apollo right?
i found it funny to work on this.

capricorn - saturn - color grey - element tin - titan and god of the time - makara half crocodile and half bird (also half fish and half ibex) he served the indian god varuna.

here you are mister crocobird chuckle

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Ah yes, the Orion's belt connection with the three wise men.

Then there is the Seven connection (seven sisters?):

Revelation... There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. The number 7 is used over 700 times in the bible...
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Where in the bible does it specify that there were only 3 of them
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OP did you ever put a big puzzle together and after all the pieces fit you discovered the picture was jiberish?
"“When you are entered into the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, you must not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. 10 There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, 11 or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. 12 For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable things Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you. 13 You should prove yourself faultless with Jehovah your God." Deu18:9
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you are a capi apollo right?
i found it funny to work on this.

capricorn - saturn - color grey - element tin - titan and god of the time - makara half crocodile and half bird (also half fish and half ibex) he served the indian god varuna.

here you are mister crocobird chuckle

[link to oi39.tinypic.com]
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Nice ! In some tarot renditions the Fool embarks on his path with the crocodile. In Egypt the croc was known as Mako, son of Set/Sebek.

Crocodiles were the residents of the Nile which flooded every season at the appearance of Sirius the dog Star rising over the eastern horizon every August before Dawn..
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Ah yes, the Orion's belt connection with the three wise men.

Then there is the Seven connection (seven sisters?):

Revelation... There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. The number 7 is used over 700 times in the bible...
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Where in the bible does it specify that there were only 3 of them
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Seven Sisters of Pleiades, Early Christians used to consider the Throne of God in Pleaides in Taurus. Alcyon/Zion was his Star

It was only until recent that the Stars were demonized by the church . Early Christians had no problem with Astro theology.

The Elohim came to Earth and taught civilization when Draco was the North Pole Star

It is Polaris now the Great Bear, Which is considered a sign of King Arthur, whose name meant bear, Rex Quondam , Rex Futurus.

It is said that Gods Kingdom will be established in thousands of years when our new North Pole Star is Gamma Cephei in Cepheus the King
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you are a capi apollo right?
i found it funny to work on this.

capricorn - saturn - color grey - element tin - titan and god of the time - makara half crocodile and half bird (also half fish and half ibex) he served the indian god varuna.

here you are mister crocobird chuckle

[link to oi39.tinypic.com]
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Nice ! In some tarot renditions the Fool embarks on his path with the crocodile. In Egypt the croc was known as Mako, son of Set/Sebek.

Crocodiles were the residents of the Nile which flooded every season at the appearance of Sirius the dog Star rising over the eastern horizon every August before Dawn..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


wow nice, i'm more into oldest stuff than egypt and i found it badass to imagine you like a crocobird rockon

i'm related to sekhmet for egypt, funny for a cat lover kitty
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Jeane Dixon wrote a book a long time ago about the connection between the apostles and astrology. She claims each one of the apostles were a different astrological sign, and Jesus assembled them for collective information.
The Title is "yesterday, Today, and Forever"

Very interesting, and informative on this subject
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you are a capi apollo right?
i found it funny to work on this.

capricorn - saturn - color grey - element tin - titan and god of the time - makara half crocodile and half bird (also half fish and half ibex) he served the indian god varuna.

here you are mister crocobird chuckle

[link to oi39.tinypic.com]
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Nice ! In some tarot renditions the Fool embarks on his path with the crocodile. In Egypt the croc was known as Mako, son of Set/Sebek.

Crocodiles were the residents of the Nile which flooded every season at the appearance of Sirius the dog Star rising over the eastern horizon every August before Dawn..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


wow nice, i'm more into oldest stuff than egypt and i found it badass to imagine you like a crocobird rockon

i'm related to sekhmet for egypt, funny for a cat lover kitty
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Nice ! You should read some Aleisters research and that of the Golden Dawn. Also the writings the Madame Blavatsky. The Ibis and Ibex are all representations of Lord Thoth.

Sekhmet is the lionheaded Sun Goddess, which is shown in the strength card of Tarot.

After the dawn of the Nile river flood, the Sun comes out and is in the mouth of the Leo Constellation,
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Ah yes, the Orion's belt connection with the three wise men.

Then there is the Seven connection (seven sisters?):

Revelation... There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. The number 7 is used over 700 times in the bible...
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Where in the bible does it specify that there were only 3 of them
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Seven Sisters of Pleiades, Early Christians used to consider the Throne of God in Pleaides in Taurus. Alcyon/Zion was his Star

It was only until recent that the Stars were demonized by the church . Early Christians had no problem with Astro theology.

The Elohim came to Earth and taught civilization when Draco was the North Pole Star

It is Polaris now the Great Bear, Which is considered a sign of King Arthur, whose name meant bear, Rex Quondam , Rex Futurus.

It is said that Gods Kingdom will be established in thousands of years when our new North Pole Star is Gamma Cephei in Cepheus the King
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


That's beautiful, thank you

Sorry I should've specified, where in the bible does it specify that there were precisely 3 wise men, as it would relate to "Orion's Belt", but I'm not aware of there being a specific number of wise men
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So hopefully Apollo Illuminati will pipe in here. I've decided to look into the concept of the bible as Astrology. I think it's a massive rabbit hole, and although I'm deeply intimidated by it (since I think it's so extensive), I've decided to dive right in.

For now, I'll mention the ones that I know about already (most of them are obvious), and go from there:

12 disciples = zodiac signs

This one is interesting with the 'resurrection' of Opheuchis... since that then adds the virgo mary to the pile, and you have 13!

The son = the Sun

Another obvious one, yet it wouldn't hold up all by itself. However, there are various things that begin to lend credence to this, as we'll get into.

The cross = Northern Cross? (Southern? I don't recall, lol)

The Sun dies on the 'cross' constellation, right around the time that the 'son' is supposed to have died on the cross.

The water bearer = end of the age

The worship of the 'son' will end at the end of the piscean age... when "you see a man go into the temple bearing a pitcher of water", then you will know it is the end of the age and the return of the 'sun' will begin.

-- Note: This may actually have more bearing than we realize. I will look into tomorrow, but there's now some evidence that we're actually a binary star system with Sirius, and it has 'turned' and is coming back towards us. I'll try to find the article I read about this. Something about it no longer being a red star, but now a blue star (or vice versa).




Anyway, I will look more into this tomorrow. But if anyone wants to add to the ways in which the bible's stories correlate to Astrology, I thank you ahead of time.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


The Bible, it's contents, and purpose can be boiled down to three things:

1. Genetics
2. Space Events/astrology
3. Cycle of world destruction

Oh, and Jesus Christ, my lord and savior. Ok, so it's a bit more complicated, but I digress.
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thought to be a Capricorn

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Yep 3rd jan ... :)

In the egg! of all that lies within are asteroid belt!!! there be a blue star and a red star them being mars and mercury Archetypes for mans soul/red/mars and spirit/blue/mercury there natures being pole apart but one and the same meaning they share the same Body/space ... :)

I opened the 5th seal on the 3rd of dec 2002 when mars Venus and mercury was in the constellation of Virgo

when I went into the constellation of Virgo in spirit there where three more egg just like are"s ... :)

As above so below as they say to know the world and ones self is to know the Archetypes within us. The east is Mars the wast is Venus the north is mercury and the south is Virgo. They are the light and dark Archetypes in man and women too... "Know Thyself."


Me and the father are One... :)
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you are a capi apollo right?
i found it funny to work on this.

capricorn - saturn - color grey - element tin - titan and god of the time - makara half crocodile and half bird (also half fish and half ibex) he served the indian god varuna.

here you are mister crocobird chuckle

[link to oi39.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Nice ! In some tarot renditions the Fool embarks on his path with the crocodile. In Egypt the croc was known as Mako, son of Set/Sebek.

Crocodiles were the residents of the Nile which flooded every season at the appearance of Sirius the dog Star rising over the eastern horizon every August before Dawn..
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


wow nice, i'm more into oldest stuff than egypt and i found it badass to imagine you like a crocobird rockon

i'm related to sekhmet for egypt, funny for a cat lover kitty
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Nice ! You should read some Aleisters research and that of the Golden Dawn. Also the writings the Madame Blavatsky. The Ibis and Ibex are all representations of Lord Thoth.

Sekhmet is the lionheaded Sun Goddess, which is shown in the strength card of Tarot.

After the dawn of the Nile river flood, the Sun comes out and is in the mouth of the Leo Constellation,
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


sssshhhhhh... do you think i'm some kind of a noob, already did this, i love digging like a crazy worm book

when leo and virgo met in mid summer = the sphinx.
also for chinese spica in virgo is the god of all the stars.

did you read what i wrote about leo in the other pages?
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Ah yes, the Orion's belt connection with the three wise men.

Then there is the Seven connection (seven sisters?):

Revelation... There are SEVEN churches, SEVEN Spirits, SEVEN stars, SEVEN seals, SEVEN trumpets, SEVEN vials, SEVEN personages, SEVEN dooms, and SEVEN new things. The number 7 is used over 700 times in the bible...
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Where in the bible does it specify that there were only 3 of them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11602398


Seven Sisters of Pleiades, Early Christians used to consider the Throne of God in Pleaides in Taurus. Alcyon/Zion was his Star

It was only until recent that the Stars were demonized by the church . Early Christians had no problem with Astro theology.

The Elohim came to Earth and taught civilization when Draco was the North Pole Star

It is Polaris now the Great Bear, Which is considered a sign of King Arthur, whose name meant bear, Rex Quondam , Rex Futurus.

It is said that Gods Kingdom will be established in thousands of years when our new North Pole Star is Gamma Cephei in Cepheus the King
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


That's beautiful, thank you

Sorry I should've specified, where in the bible does it specify that there were precisely 3 wise men, as it would relate to "Orion's Belt", but I'm not aware of there being a specific number of wise men
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In tradition of the East, the Magi as a group is supposed to number 12 and were most likely initiates of Zoroaster, The dozen number again that represents the zodiac.

In actually only the 3 gifts of Gold Frankinese, and Myrrh are mentioned. So they are likened to the 3 belt stars of Orion which are Al Natik, MIntaka and Alnilam

The 3 Giza pyramids line up with Orions belt and the Great Pyramid had 144,000 casing stones which allude to Revelations 144,000 Sons of God standing on Mt Zion.
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"Jesus" was a Astronomer not an Astrologer ,big difference...greetings Apollo Miss-Direction,lol...Astrology is only a way of Encoding the Astronomy Sciences of -Navigation- used during clear nights...the Astrology stories once protected the Trade Routes used by the Kings and Priests of old... what say ye bro? ciphered out who WE is yet?Idol1
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..in the original 6 day teachings the sun is both the greater light and the lesser light as spoke of in genesis....the moon IS NOT the lesser light.the suns light is Greater light after DEC.21 until June 21(rough estimate have to go by sunshine length to account for wobble)and the sun is the Lesser light after June 21 until DEC.21(rough estimate have to account for sunshine length as wobble)if you know the spring and fall times of equal length then you can count to the other 2 seasons which will vary as they all do from year to year and where you are on earth.summer will be exactly in the middle of the spring and fall equal sun times.that's reminds we, we need to cipher summer date out of the middle.there are models on line that tell the sunlight hours in the length of the days to cipher(count) out the other seasons from spring and fall times.later aligatorspeace
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I was just coming to ask if you'd written something about the 'sun times'. As a sungazer, I am fascinated by this idea, and would love to talk more about that.

Do you have a thread/post where you've spelled out the 'sun times' in a way that us math-challenged can understand? If so, I would love to see it. If not, please do.

hf
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[link to herbaleducator.com]

Gold Frankincense Myrrh withphotos.pdf

hfOp,

Have you ever wondered why they gave the three gifts? This is what I found. I am sitting here right now burning some Myrrh at this time and enjoying your thread. BTW I am also a Sun gazer. When did you start and what caused you to do something so radical according to modern society? What have you learned about Sun Gazing? Most people call anyone who does this nuts but they have no idea what energy the Sun gives to our bodies, minds and soul. I love this thread but like you I am just a trying to figure out all the hidden info. The Red Pill has taken my deeper each day. The rabbit hole is very exciting when we can pull away from our programmed lives that keep us a slave. I assume you are into energy work since you Sun Gaze. If you are into energy work what are some things you recommend. The Egyptian symbols show them holding Egyptian Rods and other items that create energy when held by humans. I use these sometimes when I feel I need a energy boost or have aches and pains.

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Nice ! In some tarot renditions the Fool embarks on his path with the crocodile. In Egypt the croc was known as Mako, son of Set/Sebek.

Crocodiles were the residents of the Nile which flooded every season at the appearance of Sirius the dog Star rising over the eastern horizon every August before Dawn..
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wow nice, i'm more into oldest stuff than egypt and i found it badass to imagine you like a crocobird rockon

i'm related to sekhmet for egypt, funny for a cat lover kitty
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Nice ! You should read some Aleisters research and that of the Golden Dawn. Also the writings the Madame Blavatsky. The Ibis and Ibex are all representations of Lord Thoth.

Sekhmet is the lionheaded Sun Goddess, which is shown in the strength card of Tarot.

After the dawn of the Nile river flood, the Sun comes out and is in the mouth of the Leo Constellation,
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


sssshhhhhh... do you think i'm some kind of a noob, already did this, i love digging like a crazy worm book

when leo and virgo met in mid summer = the sphinx.
also for chinese spica in virgo is the god of all the stars.

did you read what i wrote about leo in the other pages?
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Friend, Most definately ! Im working on a post on this right now. There will be a important conjunction with Spica this Summer, along with the annual calendar of the Nile River which is the water that the dragon releases from his mouth to drown the woman, Which is the Sphinx, leo and virgo. The man child brought up to the throne of God is the Height of the Summer Sun. This is the meaning of the Biblical book of Revelation.

Ill go look at what you wrote....
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wow nice, i'm more into oldest stuff than egypt and i found it badass to imagine you like a crocobird rockon

i'm related to sekhmet for egypt, funny for a cat lover kitty
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Nice ! You should read some Aleisters research and that of the Golden Dawn. Also the writings the Madame Blavatsky. The Ibis and Ibex are all representations of Lord Thoth.

Sekhmet is the lionheaded Sun Goddess, which is shown in the strength card of Tarot.

After the dawn of the Nile river flood, the Sun comes out and is in the mouth of the Leo Constellation,
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


sssshhhhhh... do you think i'm some kind of a noob, already did this, i love digging like a crazy worm book

when leo and virgo met in mid summer = the sphinx.
also for chinese spica in virgo is the god of all the stars.

did you read what i wrote about leo in the other pages?
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Friend, Most definately ! Im working on a post on this right now. There will be a important conjunction with Spica this Summer, along with the annual calendar of the Nile River which is the water that the dragon releases from his mouth to drown the woman, Which is the Sphinx, leo and virgo. The man child brought up to the throne of God is the Height of the Summer Sun. This is the meaning of the Biblical book of Revelation.

Ill go look at what you wrote....
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


also i'm still working on more scientific details like the periodic elements table, all is linked and that's is really pure art IMO

i have done some stuff on paints too (the renaissance is full of clues), my brain is freaky happy for the food i found catdance
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So hopefully Apollo Illuminati will pipe in here. I've decided to look into the concept of the bible as Astrology. I think it's a massive rabbit hole, and although I'm deeply intimidated by it (since I think it's so extensive), I've decided to dive right in.

For now, I'll mention the ones that I know about already (most of them are obvious), and go from there:

12 disciples = zodiac signs

This one is interesting with the 'resurrection' of Opheuchis... since that then adds the virgo mary to the pile, and you have 13!

The son = the Sun

Another obvious one, yet it wouldn't hold up all by itself. However, there are various things that begin to lend credence to this, as we'll get into.

The cross = Northern Cross? (Southern? I don't recall, lol)

The Sun dies on the 'cross' constellation, right around the time that the 'son' is supposed to have died on the cross.

The water bearer = end of the age

The worship of the 'son' will end at the end of the piscean age... when "you see a man go into the temple bearing a pitcher of water", then you will know it is the end of the age and the return of the 'sun' will begin.

-- Note: This may actually have more bearing than we realize. I will look into tomorrow, but there's now some evidence that we're actually a binary star system with Sirius, and it has 'turned' and is coming back towards us. I'll try to find the article I read about this. Something about it no longer being a red star, but now a blue star (or vice versa).




Anyway, I will look more into this tomorrow. But if anyone wants to add to the ways in which the bible's stories correlate to Astrology, I thank you ahead of time.
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clappa

I've brought this up to a close friend of mine as well!
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I wonder what star the belt of Orion follows? Maybe one of our resident astrologists can tell us. What direction do they 'follow' this star across the sky?
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Not sure what you mean by "follows?" in terms of movement across the southern night sky? or perhaps in mythology as in "Orion forever hunts after the Pleiades". Some info here to help explain in terms of Astrology, Astronomy, and Astrolatry (relating planets and stars to creation and mythology).

Astronomically the three stars of Orion's belt are actually very far in distance from each other. All considered "Blue" stars, one is a binary system, another is a quad system and one is a single system. It is from Earth viewpoint that they look like they are aligned together. For instance,

Orion's Belt | Light Years (LY) | System

Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Binary
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Quad
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Single

There is more regarding orbits - our solar system, Orions Belt etc. are within what is called the Goulds Belt which is in the Orion Spiral arm of the Milky Way. The Goulds Belt of stars orbits around an astronomical center which itself orbits the galactic center. Another topic to be sure but mentioned here because everything is in motion and there are many levels of orbits as it all traverses around MW center.

Astrologically in constellation terms some of the "interesting" stars are within their respective constellations, at specific degrees known as "Fixed Stars" and used in Astrology interpretation. For instance,

Fixed Star | Distance (LY) | Constellation/Degree
Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Orion/24 Gemini
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Orion/22 Gemini
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Orion/23 Gemini
Sirius AB 8 Canis Major/13 Cancer
Alcyone-Pleiades 500 Taurus/29 Taurus

These "Fixed Stars" as well as certain asteroids (e.g., Ceres, Juno, Pallas, Vesta) and centaurs (e.g. Chiron,Pholus, Nessus) the new planetoid "Eris" when placed within an Astrological birth chart, are new (or old but now "remembered") fields of research and are showing up as additional insight and interpretation.

Astrolatry links ancient mythology in to bring further insight into Astrology as a universal symbolic language of intelligence that requires knowledge of mathmatics and astronomy to develop a view of cosmology - the motherlode of the metaphysical understanding. Much can be gained studying roman-greek mythology of Atlas as father to the seven sisters as well as native american (Hopi, Dakota, Lakota Sioux, Hohokam, Creeks, Navajo, Iroquois, Aztec, and Myan).

Bottom line coming back to religious books - over 30 books were discarded from the Bible by the council of Nicea; all reference to Astrology was largely removed as was references to reincarnation. Only small fragments are left as hints of the knowledge which is now coming back online.

In Egyptian lore, Osiris is Orion and Isis is Sirius. Another way to say it is Osiris is FROM Orion, Isis FROM Sirius. Greek mythology states that "After" Atlas who "supported the heavens on his shoulders" and fathered the seven sisters, ORION began to "pursue" all of the Pleiades.

I find it most interesting "breadcrumbs" of Pleiades mythology that one of the seven sisters, Maia (Mayan?)was explicitly identified with Earth (Gaia) and was the mother of Hermes (mercury). Another "Sister" Alcyone, with Poseidon (Neptune) together birthed Hyrieus. Hyrieus was the father of Orion. These myths sure sound like stories of our origins of far ancient times.
 Quoting: Jamesbo


lala

leo/sun/color yellow/element gold: in persia the heart of the lion, or cor leonis.

this was the first of the four royal stars of ancient Persia, with Antares, Fomalhaut and Aldebaran.

these stars are separated by about 6 hours in right ascension, and so they well marked the four quarters of the sky (6 6 6)

for egyptians when leo meet virgo during mid summer = the sphinx.
 Quoting: Monbazillac


NICE ! A +++++

The Masons have it on record that Jesus of Nazareth as SUN/Son of God was born in August, during Leo.

Formalhaut is considered the fish which swallowed the phallus of Osiris.

And Antares is the heart of Scorpion that stings the hero in death, and in contrast, Regulus is the heart of the Lion, (tale told in Wizard of Oz)

In Persia the four stars were the main stars of navigation
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Nice ! You should read some Aleisters research and that of the Golden Dawn. Also the writings the Madame Blavatsky. The Ibis and Ibex are all representations of Lord Thoth.

Sekhmet is the lionheaded Sun Goddess, which is shown in the strength card of Tarot.

After the dawn of the Nile river flood, the Sun comes out and is in the mouth of the Leo Constellation,
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


sssshhhhhh... do you think i'm some kind of a noob, already did this, i love digging like a crazy worm book

when leo and virgo met in mid summer = the sphinx.
also for chinese spica in virgo is the god of all the stars.

did you read what i wrote about leo in the other pages?
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Friend, Most definately ! Im working on a post on this right now. There will be a important conjunction with Spica this Summer, along with the annual calendar of the Nile River which is the water that the dragon releases from his mouth to drown the woman, Which is the Sphinx, leo and virgo. The man child brought up to the throne of God is the Height of the Summer Sun. This is the meaning of the Biblical book of Revelation.

Ill go look at what you wrote....
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


also i'm still working on more scientific details like the periodic elements table, all is linked and that's is really pure art IMO

i have done some stuff on paints too (the renaissance is full of clues), my brain is freaky happy for the food i found catdance
 Quoting: Monbazillac



Yes, all high tech scientific equation is encoded in Qabalah, Planetary tables and Metals and also the Bible,

We could totaly be wiped out and lose all technology, but Mystery School initiates could rebuild society from just their initiation lessons and tables and aspects and symbolisms theyve memorized

Mercury for example as the Star of David pattern , Liquid Mercury will beat like a heart to an Iron Nail dipped in it.

Iron is the spear of Aries, God of War and Mars that pierced the side of Jesus.

Here is a chart

gold or aurum was dominated by Sol, the sun
silver or argentum was dominated by Luna, the moon
copper or cuprum was dominated by Venus
iron or ferrum was dominated by Mars
tin or stannum was dominated by Jupiter
mercury (quicksilver) or hydrargyrum was dominated by Mercury
lead or plumbum was dominated by Saturn
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I wonder what star the belt of Orion follows? Maybe one of our resident astrologists can tell us. What direction do they 'follow' this star across the sky?
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Not sure what you mean by "follows?" in terms of movement across the southern night sky? or perhaps in mythology as in "Orion forever hunts after the Pleiades". Some info here to help explain in terms of Astrology, Astronomy, and Astrolatry (relating planets and stars to creation and mythology).

Astronomically the three stars of Orion's belt are actually very far in distance from each other. All considered "Blue" stars, one is a binary system, another is a quad system and one is a single system. It is from Earth viewpoint that they look like they are aligned together. For instance,

Orion's Belt | Light Years (LY) | System

Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Binary
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Quad
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Single

There is more regarding orbits - our solar system, Orions Belt etc. are within what is called the Goulds Belt which is in the Orion Spiral arm of the Milky Way. The Goulds Belt of stars orbits around an astronomical center which itself orbits the galactic center. Another topic to be sure but mentioned here because everything is in motion and there are many levels of orbits as it all traverses around MW center.

Astrologically in constellation terms some of the "interesting" stars are within their respective constellations, at specific degrees known as "Fixed Stars" and used in Astrology interpretation. For instance,

Fixed Star | Distance (LY) | Constellation/Degree
Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Orion/24 Gemini
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Orion/22 Gemini
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Orion/23 Gemini
Sirius AB 8 Canis Major/13 Cancer
Alcyone-Pleiades 500 Taurus/29 Taurus

These "Fixed Stars" as well as certain asteroids (e.g., Ceres, Juno, Pallas, Vesta) and centaurs (e.g. Chiron,Pholus, Nessus) the new planetoid "Eris" when placed within an Astrological birth chart, are new (or old but now "remembered") fields of research and are showing up as additional insight and interpretation.

Astrolatry links ancient mythology in to bring further insight into Astrology as a universal symbolic language of intelligence that requires knowledge of mathmatics and astronomy to develop a view of cosmology - the motherlode of the metaphysical understanding. Much can be gained studying roman-greek mythology of Atlas as father to the seven sisters as well as native american (Hopi, Dakota, Lakota Sioux, Hohokam, Creeks, Navajo, Iroquois, Aztec, and Myan).

Bottom line coming back to religious books - over 30 books were discarded from the Bible by the council of Nicea; all reference to Astrology was largely removed as was references to reincarnation. Only small fragments are left as hints of the knowledge which is now coming back online.

In Egyptian lore, Osiris is Orion and Isis is Sirius. Another way to say it is Osiris is FROM Orion, Isis FROM Sirius. Greek mythology states that "After" Atlas who "supported the heavens on his shoulders" and fathered the seven sisters, ORION began to "pursue" all of the Pleiades.

I find it most interesting "breadcrumbs" of Pleiades mythology that one of the seven sisters, Maia (Mayan?)was explicitly identified with Earth (Gaia) and was the mother of Hermes (mercury). Another "Sister" Alcyone, with Poseidon (Neptune) together birthed Hyrieus. Hyrieus was the father of Orion. These myths sure sound like stories of our origins of far ancient times.
 Quoting: Jamesbo


lala

leo/sun/color yellow/element gold: in persia the heart of the lion, or cor leonis.

this was the first of the four royal stars of ancient Persia, with Antares, Fomalhaut and Aldebaran.

these stars are separated by about 6 hours in right ascension, and so they well marked the four quarters of the sky (6 6 6)

for egyptians when leo meet virgo during mid summer = the sphinx.
 Quoting: Monbazillac


NICE ! A +++++

The Masons have it on record that Jesus of Nazareth as SUN/Son of God was born in August, during Leo.

Formalhaut is considered the fish which swallowed the phallus of Osiris.

And Antares is the heart of Scorpion that stings the hero in death, and in contrast, Regulus is the heart of the Lion, (tale told in Wizard of Oz)

In Persia the four stars were the main stars of navigation
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


hey hey i must do something about navigation, compass rose and maps.
are you gonna identified the 12 with their respective signs? because i did this with a vinci and a poussin paint and the best stuff comes when you mirrored the paint.

body language very obvious once you know whom is the sun, you see it all tounge
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Jordan Maxwell's the "Naked Truth" talks about the bible and mythology. Joesph Campbell and "the Power of Myth" is also a good source. Both are on you tube.
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"Jesus" was a Astronomer not an Astrologer ,big difference...greetings Apollo Miss-Direction,lol...Astrology is only a way of Encoding the Astronomy Sciences of -Navigation- used during clear nights...the Astrology stories once protected the Trade Routes used by the Kings and Priests of old... what say ye bro? ciphered out who WE is yet?Idol1
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HI Friend, its good to be both, most definately. Where would we be without Polaris, lol And the Equatorial stars of Cetus, Orion and Hydra. And the North and Southern stars. Over 50 main ones are used total.

Right now they are looking for the man who will be the next King and ruler of earth. Which is the Compass Rose

He is building up his temple now (his body) via the planetary initiations.
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Not sure what you mean by "follows?" in terms of movement across the southern night sky? or perhaps in mythology as in "Orion forever hunts after the Pleiades". Some info here to help explain in terms of Astrology, Astronomy, and Astrolatry (relating planets and stars to creation and mythology).

Astronomically the three stars of Orion's belt are actually very far in distance from each other. All considered "Blue" stars, one is a binary system, another is a quad system and one is a single system. It is from Earth viewpoint that they look like they are aligned together. For instance,

Orion's Belt | Light Years (LY) | System

Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Binary
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Quad
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Single

There is more regarding orbits - our solar system, Orions Belt etc. are within what is called the Goulds Belt which is in the Orion Spiral arm of the Milky Way. The Goulds Belt of stars orbits around an astronomical center which itself orbits the galactic center. Another topic to be sure but mentioned here because everything is in motion and there are many levels of orbits as it all traverses around MW center.

Astrologically in constellation terms some of the "interesting" stars are within their respective constellations, at specific degrees known as "Fixed Stars" and used in Astrology interpretation. For instance,

Fixed Star | Distance (LY) | Constellation/Degree
Alnitak A (Zeta) 780 Orion/24 Gemini
Mintaka (Delta) 910 Orion/22 Gemini
Alniam (Epsilon) 1,335 Orion/23 Gemini
Sirius AB 8 Canis Major/13 Cancer
Alcyone-Pleiades 500 Taurus/29 Taurus

These "Fixed Stars" as well as certain asteroids (e.g., Ceres, Juno, Pallas, Vesta) and centaurs (e.g. Chiron,Pholus, Nessus) the new planetoid "Eris" when placed within an Astrological birth chart, are new (or old but now "remembered") fields of research and are showing up as additional insight and interpretation.

Astrolatry links ancient mythology in to bring further insight into Astrology as a universal symbolic language of intelligence that requires knowledge of mathmatics and astronomy to develop a view of cosmology - the motherlode of the metaphysical understanding. Much can be gained studying roman-greek mythology of Atlas as father to the seven sisters as well as native american (Hopi, Dakota, Lakota Sioux, Hohokam, Creeks, Navajo, Iroquois, Aztec, and Myan).

Bottom line coming back to religious books - over 30 books were discarded from the Bible by the council of Nicea; all reference to Astrology was largely removed as was references to reincarnation. Only small fragments are left as hints of the knowledge which is now coming back online.

In Egyptian lore, Osiris is Orion and Isis is Sirius. Another way to say it is Osiris is FROM Orion, Isis FROM Sirius. Greek mythology states that "After" Atlas who "supported the heavens on his shoulders" and fathered the seven sisters, ORION began to "pursue" all of the Pleiades.

I find it most interesting "breadcrumbs" of Pleiades mythology that one of the seven sisters, Maia (Mayan?)was explicitly identified with Earth (Gaia) and was the mother of Hermes (mercury). Another "Sister" Alcyone, with Poseidon (Neptune) together birthed Hyrieus. Hyrieus was the father of Orion. These myths sure sound like stories of our origins of far ancient times.
 Quoting: Jamesbo


lala

leo/sun/color yellow/element gold: in persia the heart of the lion, or cor leonis.

this was the first of the four royal stars of ancient Persia, with Antares, Fomalhaut and Aldebaran.

these stars are separated by about 6 hours in right ascension, and so they well marked the four quarters of the sky (6 6 6)

for egyptians when leo meet virgo during mid summer = the sphinx.
 Quoting: Monbazillac


NICE ! A +++++

The Masons have it on record that Jesus of Nazareth as SUN/Son of God was born in August, during Leo.

Formalhaut is considered the fish which swallowed the phallus of Osiris.

And Antares is the heart of Scorpion that stings the hero in death, and in contrast, Regulus is the heart of the Lion, (tale told in Wizard of Oz)

In Persia the four stars were the main stars of navigation
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


hey hey i must do something about navigation, compass rose and maps.
are you gonna identified the 12 with their respective signs? because i did this with a vinci and a poussin paint and the best stuff comes when you mirrored the paint.

body language very obvious once you know whom is the sun, you see it all tounge
 Quoting: Monbazillac


Mon, I typed about the Compass Rose same time you did. I have a pendant of the Compass Rose. Many of the Masters did indeed paint it to encode Masonic astrology

Esp the curse of he 23.5 degrees. They painted objects at this slant of our current Axis of seasons and the fall of Adam and Eve.
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muahahahaha speedbanan

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