The Bible as Astrology

I might be interested to chime in. After all, I have over 30 years studied Astrology. A fellow Astrologer here in the Southwest, well known amongst the true professionals, has been lecturing on Astrology in the Bible for over 15 years and I might get him over to join in. He and I have had many dicussions on the subject.

There numerous astrological references to site in genesis, OT/NT, Enoch, etc. Topics that go way deeper than what you might typically find here on GLP cover more than just the copy-and-paste type poster.

The 'wise men' supposedly came from the East. Is Orion visible in that area?

The problem is that they arrived at Herod's castle, and supposedly switched directions to go towards Bethlehem.

I really wish I knew Astrology/ astronomy better. As I understand it, there are stars that appear to 'change direction' when they reach the horizon. Maybe someone can shed light on a star that would have been appearing to 'change direction' around that time. Maybe even a planet going into a retrograde?

Yes. It is interesting that as we approach the end of the age, we are being given BACK the additional zodiac symbol...

The moon's cycles aren't 12 per year, but 13.

The Mary Magdelene subject is one I wish to delve into deeper, as well... there's the virgo/virgin that we've already been given all along. The 12 names of the disciples are never given, except for a few.

The virgin has always been a part of the mythos, but the Crone/mother is frequently ignored (except by catholics--except they still view her as the virgin mother, not the crone).

Let me see if I can find the crone concept astrologically, will be back with that if I find it. And I'm going to look more closely at Opheuchus.

I used to collect Tarot cards as a kid. Lately I've been learning more about the Bible and I am astounded with how much Biblical symbolism is associated with Tarot.

One example is The Woman (of the Apocalyspe) and her child and the tarot card #3 The Empress (Major Arcana) from the Rider Waite Deck.

From Revelation 12

12:1 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
12:2 She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.
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12:15 The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current.
12:16 But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

Image of the Rider Waite Empress Card: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Empress card is always associated creation and nurturing and the figure of the woman is believed to be with a child (pregnant). What is most interesting to me is the crown of twelve thorns associated with both the image on the card and as it is written in the Biblical passage.

A rare Jupiter-Saturn conjunction occured at the time around the birth of "Jesus" 3 times in fact during the year he was born. This was one of the undeniable signs that he would of been born under. Buddah came also under this planetary lineup in 63 BC which also occured 40 years later when he became "enlightened". Coincidence perhaps?

Jesus is thought to be a Capricorn, born on Christmas Day Not so; xmas was in ancient times a pagan holiday to celebrate the winter solstice. The true actual birthchart is contested as to exact day, but many believe it was in the year 7 BC. Some believe he was a Pisces. the PJs give different days in August and that would make him a Leo. I agree with that.

Then there are astronomical considerations. Precession in the Age of Pisces played a huge role in symbols. For instance the christian fish symbol. Baptised by water (Pisces a water sign).

Then you have the Magi who were of course astrologer-astronomers. They were "told" of the coming and sought him out. Another story just in this topic.

Finally, some famous quotes speak to many other topics as well:

JOB 38-31--“Canst thou bind the sweet influences of the Pleiades or loose the bands of Orion?".

AMOS 5:8--"Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into morning, and maketh day dark with night: that calleth forth the waters of the sea, and pour them out upon the face of the earth: The Lord is his name!"

Clearly, Pleiades and Orion factor into the story. That leads further to discussion on the Maya (one of the 7 sisters) long count end times prophecy.

Your right, OP, lots of huge topics. Where do you want to take this?

The thing that bothers me about the whole "wise men" business is that everyone just naturally assumes it was three, but the bible doesn't say that. Why the long clinging to the three reference? Is this something that has long been common knowledge?

But there is nothing to the west of Orion, so I wonder if there's a different 'wise man' type of constellation that follows a star in the East.

The thing that bothers me about the whole "wise men" business is that everyone just naturally assumes it was three, but the bible doesn't say that. Why the long clinging to the three reference? Is this something that has long been common knowledge?

But there is nothing to the west of Orion, so I wonder if there's a different 'wise man' type of constellation that follows a star in the East.

No God is tyrannical evil vengeful bloodthirsty monster ??? Is that really Sandi T the God-hater ?

The belief that there were specifically Three wisemen likely stems from the three gifts that were given - gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Assuming each gift was independently given by each wiseman.

So nothing in the bible specifies there were three men - it is just a long, past-on assumption.

OP take the time to watch the videos below. They are fairly long but it will save you a lot of time overall. They go into everything in extreme detail.

?The Three wise men are the stars of Orion's belt

This blogger has done some very good work on the metaphorical coding and the astrotheology in the bible-
[link to thehiddenlighthouse.blogspot.com]
There is alot of reading there, but pay particular attention to the 12 cranial nerves in the brain and the cross with pineal gland at the center, in relation to the metaphors of the ark of the covenant, Noah's ark, and Golgatha (place of the skull).
It's all macro/micro in this fractal reality.

Here is a great diagram also-

[link to www.sacred-texts.com]

Hi Sandi---

Excellent links. I'll read more into them. The videos above, the same guy is posted there. I've watched some of his vids and it was kind of what got me started with "the deeper revelation" with regards to this stuff and the procession of the equinoxes.

Thanks.

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By the way, here's a link to the zodiac constellations in case anyone wants a reference to them:

[link to www.astrologyweekly.com]

I get it, I get it now!!

It has been theorized, and discussed in a documentary film often aired on American public television (PBS), that this new "star" which the magi noticed in the Sign of Pisces was actually two large and bright planets, Jupiter and Saturn, appearing in the same place in the sky three times during the year 7 B.C., which would make those two "gas giant" planets look like one bright new "star" when they formed this "conjunction" and appeared to be very close together. A conjunction is a term used in both Astronomy and Astrology to signify the appearance of two heavenly bodies at the same location in the sky. (The planets are not actually IN the same place, they just appear that way because one is passing in front of the other, when viewed from our position on planet Earth.)

This auspicious conjunction first occured at the time of the ancient New Year which corresponded with the Spring Equinox, the first day of Spring. The constellation in which the Sun was located at sunrise on this day also happened to be a different constellation than in the previous 2160 years, which marks the beginning of a new astronomical Age.

[link to www.astrologyzine.com]

...the ark of the covenant was also a power source,the electronic instructions are encoded as "gods" on the Egyptian tomb walls.example red god with green clothes = magnetic iron and copper.white god with green clothes= barium sulfate and copper.weighing of the heart painting shows the "gods"above facing a Tesla coil being worshiped.the priests were called magicians because they used the pyramid as a 40 htz transmitter to synch the peoples brains with what they said.the little robot cam showed the 2 copper lines hanging from the small shaft doorway that once ran all the way down to the kings chamber where blocks of magnetic iron,copper and zinc wrer inbtween the outreaching stone "steps" and the kings tomb box for chemicals produced electricity.the metals were stripped out sometime after the empire fell..

Very interesting. I like your ability to put this stuff into terms that I can understand. A lot of these scientific discussions go into terminology that I can't understand.

I know there's a lot of scientific stuff embedded in Sumerian and Egyptian heiroglyphs. That may be a secondary discussion, but it's absolutely one that I'm equally fascinated by.

As far as the ark goes, it had to be something beyond an angry deity. The thing that most shows that is the guy that supposedly 'god' murdered for stumbling against it, and another who tried to catch it when it was wobbling...

Either they were murdered by an overseer of some kind (alien? knowledgable human? whatever...); or the object was such that touching it without special equipment killed you.