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The CORPORATION of "The United States of America" in Wash DC

 
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Have you heard about this ? Is Obammy the CEO. I have heard also that the IRS is based in Puerto Rico (Their financing arms and such)

With the Federal Reserve Charter EXPIRING Soon with things really start unraveling ?

If you have any knowledge on The Corporation THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, please share.

notice I used all caps...LMAO

Peace,

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[link to www.usavsus.info] this should be helpfull
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Its true, America is a corporation, the president is the CEO. Americans are also turned into corporation entities, which is why we are bound by the laws, or rules of the corporation.

I used to believe the federal reserve charter ended after 100 years, which was why they are so hell bent on destroying america but further research has shown this 100 charter to be false. It can only be repealed by congress.

You can legally dissolve a corporation so there has to be an easy way to dissolve the "corporate" you.
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The Company was first chartered by congress in 1871 with "District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871". Prior to this America the republic had been a Delaware chartered corporation that was non profit religious affiliated. After this there were two Americas. One is the republic: public, common law, lawful money, Government of free men and women on the land. And the other is a closed for profit corporation in commercial law, with private law based on compelled performance of contracts at admiralty (structural jurisdiction per the 16th ammendment) private credit coupon money etc. It is noteworthy that the DC corporation is acting as a ceste que/joint stock trust in admiralty since the reorganization that occured in the Emergency Banking Act of 1933, erie railroad vs thompkins 1938, and HJR 192

Both are still existant. Congress can technically act as both or either. States can act as both or either. Both rarely act as dejure rather than defacto government. Individuals can act as flesh and blood men and women on the land or they can operate as the agent of their birth certificate corporation name with its accompanying obligations and benefits in commercial law. Most dont know the difference and act as debt chattel agents of a bankrupt commercial entity in ignorance.

The first judiciary act of 1789 (aka the saving to suitors act) is still in effect and establishes that in order for the government to do anything that limits the soveriegnty of the people post treaty with king george, they have to leave remedy to the people and recourse for free individuals to NOT PARTICIPATE. That is what makes all this tyranny lawful. You unknowingly contract for it. Remedy is out there. I refuse to give legal advice but here is some google searches.

David Merrill: public money vs private credit
savingtosuitorsclub.net
Lawful money
12USC411
without prejudice
UCC 1-308
affidavit of truth
Federal reserve private bank
Emergency Banking act of 1933
Federal Reserve Act of 1913
Lincolin's greenbacks
Executive order 11110
Remedy

In addition to disclaiming the foregoing as not intended to be any form of instruction or legal advice, I should also add that this is a huge rabbit hole. Disinformation and misunderstanding abounds and if you act on someone elses misunderstanding, you lose. Therefore I recomend nothing but self education.
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Its true, America is a corporation, the president is the CEO. Americans are also turned into corporation entities, which is why we are bound by the laws, or rules of the corporation.

I used to believe the federal reserve charter ended after 100 years, which was why they are so hell bent on destroying america but further research has shown this 100 charter to be false. It can only be repealed by congress.

You can legally dissolve a corporation so there has to be an easy way to dissolve the "corporate" you.
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NO....America is a REPUBLIC.....the GOP, run by Bush Sr is trying to force his Corporation on americans but it isn't going to work....we did not vote it in, Bush Sr is a criminal, and needs to be put in jail along with all his butt buddies that think the Federal Reserve Board i runs this nation...they don't. WE THE PEOPLE RUN THIS NATION, not the Federal Reserve Board who bribes congressman to keep them in power..

Ron Paul is the solution...notice how they are shutting him out....because he knows we are a REPUBLIC...their little greedy game is failing...there is no US CORPORATION..Bush Sr is a feeble old man...he has no power to keep his greedy game going...Obama was his last player..and he is TOAST.
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Its true, America is a corporation, the president is the CEO. Americans are also turned into corporation entities, which is why we are bound by the laws, or rules of the corporation.

I used to believe the federal reserve charter ended after 100 years, which was why they are so hell bent on destroying america but further research has shown this 100 charter to be false. It can only be repealed by congress.

You can legally dissolve a corporation so there has to be an easy way to dissolve the "corporate" you.
 Quoting: 284dan


NO....America is a REPUBLIC.....the GOP, run by Bush Sr is trying to force his Corporation on americans but it isn't going to work....we did not vote it in, Bush Sr is a criminal, and needs to be put in jail along with all his butt buddies that think the Federal Reserve Board i runs this nation...they don't. WE THE PEOPLE RUN THIS NATION, not the Federal Reserve Board who bribes congressman to keep them in power..

Ron Paul is the solution...notice how they are shutting him out....because he knows we are a REPUBLIC...their little greedy game is failing...there is no US CORPORATION..Bush Sr is a feeble old man...he has no power to keep his greedy game going...Obama was his last player..and he is TOAST.
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While I acknowledge the role of both the Russel trust and the subsequent role of the Bush family crime syndicate, if you think any of this information can be pigeonholed and simplified into your postmodern understanding of the two party system and cable news political paradigm, you are definatly not qualified to post on this subject. Read more law. Read more history.
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Google it under corporations chartered in Delaware. Try ALL US departments.
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Google it under corporations chartered in Delaware. Try ALL US departments.
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yep.
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The Company was first chartered by congress in 1871 with "District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871". Prior to this America the republic had been a Delaware chartered corporation that was non profit religious affiliated. After this there were two Americas. One is the republic: public, common law, lawful money, Government of free men and women on the land. And the other is a closed for profit corporation in commercial law, with private law based on compelled performance of contracts at admiralty (structural jurisdiction per the 16th ammendment) private credit coupon money etc. It is noteworthy that the DC corporation is acting as a ceste que/joint stock trust in admiralty since the reorganization that occured in the Emergency Banking Act of 1933, erie railroad vs thompkins 1938, and HJR 192

Both are still existant. Congress can technically act as both or either. States can act as both or either. Both rarely act as dejure rather than defacto government. Individuals can act as flesh and blood men and women on the land or they can operate as the agent of their birth certificate corporation name with its accompanying obligations and benefits in commercial law. Most dont know the difference and act as debt chattel agents of a bankrupt commercial entity in ignorance.

The first judiciary act of 1789 (aka the saving to suitors act) is still in effect and establishes that in order for the government to do anything that limits the soveriegnty of the people post treaty with king george, they have to leave remedy to the people and recourse for free individuals to NOT PARTICIPATE. That is what makes all this tyranny lawful. You unknowingly contract for it. Remedy is out there. I refuse to give legal advice but here is some google searches.

David Merrill: public money vs private credit
savingtosuitorsclub.net
Lawful money
12USC411
without prejudice
UCC 1-308
affidavit of truth
Federal reserve private bank
Emergency Banking act of 1933
Federal Reserve Act of 1913
Lincolin's greenbacks
Executive order 11110
Remedy

In addition to disclaiming the foregoing as not intended to be any form of instruction or legal advice, I should also add that this is a huge rabbit hole. Disinformation and misunderstanding abounds and if you act on someone elses misunderstanding, you lose. Therefore I recomend nothing but self education.
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Tks AC. Great Info. Disturbing though.
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To whom does it serve? Well the creditors to the bankruptcy in this recievership arrangement of course. The entire defacto government and certainly the colour of law private banking cartel is structured (by making you pay for use of your nations currency) to bleed you dry. to transfer the mineral, land, capital, and labor assets from us unto the creditors of the bankruptcy. That is why voting for president of a corporation that exists to rob you is fucking retarted. That is why the two party system is a scripted false reality. Just ask voter news service and the shadow govt.
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Its true, America is a corporation, the president is the CEO. Americans are also turned into corporation entities, which is why we are bound by the laws, or rules of the corporation.

I used to believe the federal reserve charter ended after 100 years, which was why they are so hell bent on destroying america but further research has shown this 100 charter to be false. It can only be repealed by congress.

You can legally dissolve a corporation so there has to be an easy way to dissolve the "corporate" you.
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NO....America is a REPUBLIC.....
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I stand corrected. You are right, America is a Republic. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation.
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yes you are right. now ask yourself, am a conducting my affairs like a one of the soveriegn people in this republic or am I incorperating my right to contract into a corporate office of CITIZENSHIP under the 14th ammendment of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION?
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Ask yourself, Am I a free man on the land or am I a slave/serf to the debt of this private corporation on a neo-feudal globalist plantation? What can I do differently?
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Finally, a thread with a real issue on this forum.
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When people envision tyranny, they think nazis and jackboots. Too often they fail to grasp the neuro-linguistic chains of their own forging and voluntary particpation. Its not the like the public schools teach the law. But we are told, ignorance is no excuse. And so we as a nation bumble along, doing things, signing things, and saying things like our parents and grandparents were duped into using clever legal words of art. Never suspecting we are building our own material prison with our ignorance.
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Finally, a thread with a real issue on this forum.
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rockon

Based on where we are today. It appears that the "CORPORATION THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" has spread its tentacles of Power and Corruption far and broad.

It is a lot scarier now for sure than when I began learning about this subject many years ago.

I feel strongly about The Republic of The United States.

Hope we can return to our Original Ways intended to bestowed upon us by our Founding Fathers.

Washington DC CORPORATE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Has nothing anymore to offer me as far as REAL FREEDOM is concerned.

I WANT OUT ! Maybe it is time for this issue to Become VIRAL.

Do we have a chance to get our Republic Back ?
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For an example of a word of art, look up the word RESIDENT in Blacks law dictionary 6th edition. Now think of how many forms you have filled out assuming that the word RESIDENT means the common defination. But at LAW, it apparently means something else. Now find the different definations of things like "BUSINESS" "LICENSE" "MOTOR VEHICLE." See what you have been declaring and agreeing to.

LAW is funny like that. To read the LAW and know what it means, you have to look at the definations in the appropriate LAW dictionaries used and cited by those who wrote the LAW. Only then will you understand what has been written and carries FORCE and AUTHORITY.
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When people envision tyranny, they think nazis and jackboots. Too often they fail to grasp the neuro-linguistic chains of their own forging and voluntary particpation. Its not the like the public schools teach the law. But we are told, ignorance is no excuse. And so we as a nation bumble along, doing things, signing things, and saying things like our parents and grandparents were duped into using clever legal words of art. Never suspecting we are building our own material prison with our ignorance.
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This ^^^^

WAKE UP SHEEP
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We should be discussing how to legally remove oneself from this game and become a free citizen, not bound by the corporate laws.

Anyone????? Can this be legally done? I never signed up for this, my parents unknowingly did when I was born via the SS and birth certificate. I think those under the age of 18 can not legally be entered into a contract and can remove themselves from a contract they were entered into by someone else just by stating in a court of law they want to remove themselves from the contract.

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This issue IS becoming viral. Remedy is out there. Keep self educating. Learn how to redeem private credit negotiable instruments for lawful money AT LAW using administrative remedy. Wake others up. Talk to people in the grocery line, talk to your friends. Dont cite websites, learn to cite LAW. Then you avoid the "crazy conspiracy theorist" trap. If enough people wake up and claim their birthrights, then we turn away from their front company. I did. I do. I am a descendent of a signer of the Declaration of Independance and I am a free man on this land.
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We should be discussing how to legally remove oneself from this game and become a free citizen, not bound by the corporate laws.

Anyone????? Can this be legally done? I never signed up for this, my parents unknowingly did when I was born via the SS and birth certificate. I think those under the age of 18 can not legally be entered into a contract and can remove themselves from a contract they were entered into by someone else just by stating in a court of law they want to remove themselves from the contract.

??????????????????????????????
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THIS ^^^

Now more than ever to me. Im tired of this CORPORATE game. It doesnt represent FREEDOM anymore as far as I am concerned.

It doesnt work for me and what I feel is best. Just talking about it makes me feel some hope for the future.

Right Now.....under the CORPORATION...it represents BONDAGE and INDEBTEDNESS.
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The Company was first chartered by congress in 1871 with "District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871". Prior to this America the republic had been a Delaware chartered corporation that was non profit religious affiliated. After this there were two Americas. One is the republic: public, common law, lawful money, Government of free men and women on the land. And the other is a closed for profit corporation in commercial law, with private law based on compelled performance of contracts at admiralty (structural jurisdiction per the 16th ammendment) private credit coupon money etc. It is noteworthy that the DC corporation is acting as a ceste que/joint stock trust in admiralty since the reorganization that occured in the Emergency Banking Act of 1933, erie railroad vs thompkins 1938, and HJR 192

Both are still existant. Congress can technically act as both or either. States can act as both or either. Both rarely act as dejure rather than defacto government. Individuals can act as flesh and blood men and women on the land or they can operate as the agent of their birth certificate corporation name with its accompanying obligations and benefits in commercial law. Most dont know the difference and act as debt chattel agents of a bankrupt commercial entity in ignorance.

The first judiciary act of 1789 (aka the saving to suitors act) is still in effect and establishes that in order for the government to do anything that limits the soveriegnty of the people post treaty with king george, they have to leave remedy to the people and recourse for free individuals to NOT PARTICIPATE. That is what makes all this tyranny lawful. You unknowingly contract for it. Remedy is out there. I refuse to give legal advice but here is some google searches.

David Merrill: public money vs private credit
savingtosuitorsclub.net
Lawful money
12USC411
without prejudice
UCC 1-308
affidavit of truth
Federal reserve private bank
Emergency Banking act of 1933
Federal Reserve Act of 1913
Lincolin's greenbacks
Executive order 11110
Remedy

In addition to disclaiming the foregoing as not intended to be any form of instruction or legal advice, I should also add that this is a huge rabbit hole. Disinformation and misunderstanding abounds and if you act on someone elses misunderstanding, you lose. Therefore I recomend nothing but self education.
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What this Republic needs is self educated individuals. Do your own research. It took me 1000 hrs. Noone else will help you become free. No lawyer will tell you how, and no judge will give you a pat on the head. You dont need expensive books or seminars. You dont need to pay someone to tell you how. You dont need me to explain it. You need your own understanding. Nothing else will suffice. This game is very serious. You need to understand the rules, not merely parrot someone elses understanding. How much time do you have to learn to be free? When I started to recover my rights and correct the errors, I decided I had the rest of my life.
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This issue IS becoming viral. Remedy is out there. Keep self educating. Learn how to redeem private credit negotiable instruments for lawful money AT LAW using administrative remedy. Wake others up. Talk to people in the grocery line, talk to your friends. Dont cite websites, learn to cite LAW. Then you avoid the "crazy conspiracy theorist" trap. If enough people wake up and claim their birthrights, then we turn away from their front company. I did. I do. I am a descendent of a signer of the Declaration of Independance and I am a free man on this land.
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Learn how to redeem private credit negotiable instruments for lawful money AT LAW using administrative remedy.

Sounds pretty complicated. They have created a lot of obstacles to trip us up and keep us in their game.

Any books that can be obtained that anyone care to share about ???

You Kick Ass AC...........I am a descendent of a signer of the Declaration of Independance and I am a free man on this land.


Excellent Post
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4436. is almost done. When they pull the plug most in will go to China, some to Japan and you noble malcontents can survive as best you can in the wilderness thats left.Glad it's almost over.
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I would stick to reading the LAW, and reading websites. Take nothing anyone tells you as fact without cites. Start with the above provided google searches. Google "James Traficant USA bankruptcy 1993" Thats in the congressional record and they railroaded him into prison for it. There are books about what happened from a historical perspective but most books out there are flawed in some way in their perspective or understanding. I wont mention titles because of this. Use the web first to get a feel for things. Learn to seperate wheat from chaff before going to books. Ill cut and paste the traficant speach below:

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."
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The first capital was in Philly and they were attacked forced to relocate to Maryland in 1790.
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4436. is almost done. When they pull the plug most in will go to China, some to Japan and you noble malcontents can survive as best you can in the wilderness thats left.Glad it's almost over.
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What are you saying? 4436????
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I would stick to reading the LAW, and reading websites. Take nothing anyone tells you as fact without cites. Start with the above provided google searches. Google "James Traficant USA bankruptcy 1993" Thats in the congressional record and they railroaded him into prison for it. There are books about what happened from a historical perspective but most books out there are flawed in some way in their perspective or understanding. I wont mention titles because of this. Use the web first to get a feel for things. Learn to seperate wheat from chaff before going to books. Ill cut and paste the traficant speach below:

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers. With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States?’

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money?’ The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)

"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life. Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights. This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order! Wake up America! Take back your Country."
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Awesome...I started down this rabbit hole 20 years ago. Sadly, I kept hitting brick walls and never went futher. Thanks for the spark to ignite my fire again!
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03/03/2012 05:25 PM
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Anytime I have tried to talk to anyone about this I get a "are you fucking crazy" look. I really wish I knew how to get this info out. When I learned that the number on the BACK of my social security was to track a loan the govt took out on my future labor, I was really, really pissed.
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BUMP FOR LIBERTY! Request pin for a very relevant topic. Please mods before shills show up. We need others to see this discussion!
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03/03/2012 05:33 PM
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4436. is almost done. When they pull the plug most in will go to China, some to Japan and you noble malcontents can survive as best you can in the wilderness thats left.Glad it's almost over.
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I am in a very rural area. I could survive and it will, after some geting use to, surely be better than swimming upstream forever.

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