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Support Rand Paul's Life at Conception Act: Sign the Petition!

 
Wylfdane
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Support Rand Paul's Life at Conception Act: Sign the Petition!
Rand Paul's trying to get the Life at Conception Act passed in the senate. He's asking for people who support the bill to sign the petition provided...

[link to nationalprolifealliance.com]
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To quote the email he sent me:

With the addition of long time pro-life stalwarts Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Jim DeMint of South Carolina, the total number of Life at Conception Act cosponsors reached an all time high of 151.

Now, our 60 day goal is to add as many additional cosponsors as possible and then force floor votes on both the House and Senate bills.
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he fully supports all the wrong positions his father does. Perhaps he needs to brush up on Austrian business cycles and foreign policy

those two are where the vigorous support comes from, not the window dressing which they are trying to have him take
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he fully supports all the wrong positions his father does. Perhaps he needs to brush up on Austrian business cycles and foreign policy

those two are where the vigorous support comes from, not the window dressing which they are trying to have him take
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I like the fact that he and his father are pro-life. I'd have a hard time supporting them if they were not.
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For the unborn...
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What constitutional authority is he citing?
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

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What constitutional authority is he citing?
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The constitution guarantees the right to life, right?
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and again...
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What constitutional authority is he citing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


The constitution guarantees the right to life, right?
 Quoting: Wylfdane


Nope, because it states a person may be deprived of their "life, liberty, and property" through due process of law. So a guarantee of life isn't there.

What I'm asking is, who has the authority to write this law? Should it not fall under the 10th Amendment and be left to the states and/or the people rather than the federal government?

I believe so.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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ONE star is better than NO stars.

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Life began with a primordial soup followed by steak and dessert and hopefully a one night stand.
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Rand is a whack job. For the sake of American women, I hope this legislation dies. Just because you believe that life starts at conception, not everyone does. And they should have the choice to not die in a back alley trying to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. He should focus his energues on contraception and education instead, not trying to contro peopk who hild different beliefs.
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So does each sperm and egg count as half an unborn person?
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Sometimes the truth sounds like an insult when you are not use to hearing it.

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What constitutional authority is he citing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


The constitution guarantees the right to life, right?
 Quoting: Wylfdane


Nope, because it states a person may be deprived of their "life, liberty, and property" through due process of law. So a guarantee of life isn't there.

What I'm asking is, who has the authority to write this law? Should it not fall under the 10th Amendment and be left to the states and/or the people rather than the federal government?

I believe so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


I see where you're coming from, and for the most part I agree. But they violated the constitution when they passed Roe v. Wade, and MADE it a federal matter. Now I do think perhaps something should be done to define life at conception. Things are just getting too backwards anymore.

peace
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Rand Paul's trying to get the Life at Conception Act passed in the senate. He's asking for people who support the bill to sign the petition provided...

[link to nationalprolifealliance.com]
 Quoting: Wylfdane


HELL NO!
People have no right to tell someone else what they can or can't so with their own body.

facists
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Rand is a whack job. For the sake of American women, I hope this legislation dies. Just because you believe that life starts at conception, not everyone does. And they should have the choice to not die in a back alley trying to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. He should focus his energues on contraception and education instead, not trying to contro peopk who hild different beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1677506


Medical science proves that life begins at conception.
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HELL NO!
People have no right to tell someone else what they can or can't so with their own body.

facists
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


wtf

Defending life that can't defend itself is NOT fascism.
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Rand is a whack job. For the sake of American women, I hope this legislation dies. Just because you believe that life starts at conception, not everyone does. And they should have the choice to not die in a back alley trying to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. He should focus his energues on contraception and education instead, not trying to contro peopk who hild different beliefs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1677506


Medical science proves that life begins at conception.
 Quoting: Wylfdane


There's LIFE under my toenails.

But there is no human being until birth.
I support the right to abortion at anytime, up until birth.
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What constitutional authority is he citing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


The constitution guarantees the right to life, right?
 Quoting: Wylfdane


Nope, because it states a person may be deprived of their "life, liberty, and property" through due process of law. So a guarantee of life isn't there.

What I'm asking is, who has the authority to write this law? Should it not fall under the 10th Amendment and be left to the states and/or the people rather than the federal government?

I believe so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


I see where you're coming from, and for the most part I agree. But they violated the constitution when they passed Roe v. Wade, and MADE it a federal matter. Now I do think perhaps something should be done to define life at conception. Things are just getting too backwards anymore.

peace
 Quoting: Wylfdane


If this was legislation designed to give the states back the rights usurped by Roe v Wade, I'd most definitely back it but this does not reverse Roe v Wade, it mandates the Texas laws nationally that RvW attempted to overturn.

One constitutional over-step does not warrant a second over-step to correct the first.

Last Edited by Anonymous Cowherder on 03/03/2012 06:10 PM
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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HELL NO!
People have no right to tell someone else what they can or can't so with their own body.

facists
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


wtf

Defending life that can't defend itself is NOT fascism.
 Quoting: Wylfdane


Facism is the government deciding what is best for you.

Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 03/03/2012 06:18 PM
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